Dhall
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Post by Dhall on Mar 24, 2017 15:36:37 GMT -5
Imagine this scene: Paul Tagliabue, Lee Reed and Jack DeGioia hold a press conference announcing Georgetown's next coach and she is a woman. "As a leading university committed to excellence, we are announcing today that Ms. ___ has been named the Head Coach of the Georgetown University Men's Basketball Team. In 1972, this university hired the first African-American man to coach a Men's NCAA National Champion in the modern era and today in 2017 we hire the first woman that will coach a Men's NCAA National Champion." I am dead serious about this. Here are the factors as I see them:
- Immediate positive publicity and national attention to the program, always a good thing
- Season ticket sales and donations go through the roof, with proud mothers and daughters urging their husbands and fathers to show support
- We can actually hire a better coach. Yes, the women's game is different, but some would argue that it is better. More importantly, we are not going to attract one of the top 50 proven male coaches in the country, but we could most likely attract one of the top 5 proven woman coaches in the country assuming they are willing to be trailblazer. We could probably even dip into the women's professional coaching ranks for candidates. I'm not saying hire any woman, I'm saying hire a proven successful woman coach.
- Georgetown has few inherent competitive advantages compared to the Power Conferences at least. If it is true that a woman can coach a men's college team as well as a man (nobody has tried, so we don't know), then we immediately gain an advantage over every other school in the country by hiring from an untapped pool of coaching talent.
- Every coach is a risk and there are no guarantees for success no matter who we hire, man or woman, so why not take a chance on someone while also making a positive statement about what the university stands for in terms of equality, diversity, etc.?
- Recruiting: While I am sure that some recruits would be turned off, I have to think that some (particularly those with a strong mother figure) might be excited or at least fine with it. Most probably wouldn't care if they are going to a winning situation.
I'm not a woman, and not active in "women's issues" per se. I just want this basketball team to win and for Georgetown University to represent itself with honor to the world so I can be proud of my alma mater. If we hire a woman and she's successful, what an unbelievable statement that will stay attached to our school forever. If we hire a woman and she fails, we were no worse off than hiring a man who might have failed too, and we tried something different along the way.
I hope this happens.
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lurkerhoya
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Post by lurkerhoya on Mar 24, 2017 15:54:54 GMT -5
I want your drug dealer's number ASAP.
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757hoyafan
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Post by 757hoyafan on Mar 24, 2017 16:17:25 GMT -5
I want your drug dealer's number ASAP. lol |
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richfame
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Post by richfame on Mar 24, 2017 17:39:27 GMT -5
I want your drug dealer's number ASAP. lol Ha ha. Dead on Great post. |
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Mar 24, 2017 17:53:53 GMT -5
Sure! Why not hire a woman just to exploit the fact that she's a woman for the gain of the program and University? How progressive!
Seriously though, I hope we hire the best available coach based on the weighing of the probable pros/cons with regard to school culture, recruiting, player development and X's and O's. To me, which demo boxes they check after those considerations are much less important at this particular point in time than.
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GIGAFAN99
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 24, 2017 18:39:54 GMT -5
Only if she's a midget and the entire season is documented on a TLC show called "Little Woman, Big East." I mean that in a cultivating understanding way, not a ham-handed headline-exploiting sort of way.
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iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 24, 2017 18:50:56 GMT -5
As long as it isn't Mrs. Gregg Marshall.
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richfame
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Post by richfame on Mar 24, 2017 19:06:30 GMT -5
I would take Mary Lavin over Steve lavin.
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iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 24, 2017 19:21:05 GMT -5
I would take Mary Lavin over Steve lavin. How about Shakira over Shaka? |
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richfame
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Post by richfame on Mar 24, 2017 19:45:36 GMT -5
I would take Mary Lavin over Steve lavin. How about Shakira over Shaka? Hips don't lie |
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sweetness
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Post by sweetness on Mar 24, 2017 19:46:54 GMT -5
I can live with the best available coach in women's basketball, Geno.
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richfame
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Post by richfame on Mar 24, 2017 20:09:13 GMT -5
I can live with the best available coach in women's basketball, Geno. Geno just signed a new five year contract and said it was the easiest extension he's signed in awhile. He also has the number one recruiting class incoming.... He would turn this around but he's not leaving storrs. |
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Post by thegioiahoya on Mar 24, 2017 20:56:30 GMT -5
Dhall-- you make some legitimate points in spite of the field day which responders have had with the notion of a female coach. I don't think people can say that Becky Hammon does not possess relevant experiences which make her a viable college men's coach candidate. Not saying that's going to happen or that she would be my first, second or third choice, but this discussion did not have to devolve into mention of midgets and other side show novelties. Just wanted one other person to at least lend credence to the notion of a female coach in men's college basketball.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 24, 2017 22:41:05 GMT -5
Dhall-- you make some legitimate points in spite of the field day which responders have had with the notion of a female coach. I don't think people can say that Becky Hammon does not possess relevant experiences which make her a viable college men's coach candidate. Not saying that's going to happen or that she would be my first, second or third choice, but this discussion did not have to devolve into mention of midgets and other side show novelties. Just wanted one other person to at least lend credence to the notion of a female coach in men's college basketball. It is not an impossible concept. I am pretty sure that Pat Summit was contacted by more than one school, and Geno was as well years ago. Becky Harmon has never coached in college. She would not be the one. |
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GIGAFAN99
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 24, 2017 23:25:39 GMT -5
Dhall-- you make some legitimate points in spite of the field day which responders have had with the notion of a female coach. I don't think people can say that Becky Hammon does not possess relevant experiences which make her a viable college men's coach candidate. Not saying that's going to happen or that she would be my first, second or third choice, but this discussion did not have to devolve into mention of midgets and other side show novelties. Just wanted one other person to at least lend credence to the notion of a female coach in men's college basketball. It is not an impossible concept. I am pretty sure that Pat Summit was contacted by more than one school, and Geno was as well years ago. Becky Harmon has never coached in college. She would not be the one. It's possible but there's no candidate remotely qualified right now. Frese at Maryland is probably number 1 and she's not a top 20 candidate for this job despite being at a local school. Nobody would mention Becky Hammond if it weren't for the "buzz factor" which is a kind way of saying clickbait sideshow. |
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Post by hoya2x2010 on Mar 25, 2017 22:30:04 GMT -5
Dhall-- you make some legitimate points in spite of the field day which responders have had with the notion of a female coach. I don't think people can say that Becky Hammon does not possess relevant experiences which make her a viable college men's coach candidate. Not saying that's going to happen or that she would be my first, second or third choice, but this discussion did not have to devolve into mention of midgets and other side show novelties. Just wanted one other person to at least lend credence to the notion of a female coach in men's college basketball. please don't group midget head coaches into the side show novelties bucket. |
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 27, 2017 13:20:51 GMT -5
Dhall-- you make some legitimate points in spite of the field day which responders have had with the notion of a female coach. I don't think people can say that Becky Hammon does not possess relevant experiences which make her a viable college men's coach candidate. Not saying that's going to happen or that she would be my first, second or third choice, but this discussion did not have to devolve into mention of midgets and other side show novelties. Just wanted one other person to at least lend credence to the notion of a female coach in men's college basketball. I'll take a good coach regardless of gender. That field day produced some funny posts.  |
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 27, 2017 13:31:26 GMT -5
Only if she's a midget and the entire season is documented on a TLC show called "Little Woman, Big East." I mean that in a cultivating understanding way, not a ham-handed headline-exploiting sort of way. One of the best quotes in Hoyatalk history... |
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Bigs"R"Us
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Mar 27, 2017 13:42:33 GMT -5
One way to get my wife to watch the Hoyas.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 27, 2017 15:47:29 GMT -5
You think firing JTIII was hard? Try to fire the first female head coach. The Pink Hats would shut down the university!
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