blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Mar 23, 2017 16:15:43 GMT -5
The administration somehow needs to find a way to keep Kevin Broadus in the mix. He's served on the staff for 9 years, has been incredibly loyal to the program, and is extremely talented at what he does. In addition to being a great ambassador to the program and having turned down several other top 25 programs, he's responsible for recruiting the best guys we have year in and year out. Losing Broadus would be a significant loss.
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iowa80
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 23, 2017 16:21:23 GMT -5
OK. Who would you say is most responsible for our recent recruiting classes? That's an honest question.
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TC
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Post by TC on Mar 23, 2017 16:23:32 GMT -5
Whoever takes over should be able to hire their own staff.
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 23, 2017 16:25:28 GMT -5
The administration somehow needs to find a way to keep Kevin Broadus in the mix. He's served on the staff for 9 years, has been incredibly loyal to the program, and is extremely talented at what he does. In addition to being a great ambassador to the program and having turned down several other top 25 programs, he's responsible for recruiting the best guys we have year in and year out. Losing Broadus would be a significant loss. Then you have to elevate him to head coach. Would help keep players and connection with the Thompson and would be cheap.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 23, 2017 16:27:11 GMT -5
I appreciate what he's done for the program, but the recruiting has been in the dumps since the Copeland class, and that contributed to the demise. It's unfortunate, but I think we probably need to move on. The same will likely be true of Patrick Ewing Jr. and Jon Wallace.
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Post by FHillsNYHoya on Mar 23, 2017 16:42:16 GMT -5
Extremely talented seems a stretch given where we currently sit.
If Waters would come if Broadus remained on staff, would probably need to think about it.
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Mar 23, 2017 17:25:11 GMT -5
Guys....there was no way a high level recruit would play for G'town given the direction the program was headed....and it was not for lack of talent. The word on Georgetown in every recruiting circle was that we had the players but not the coach. Broadus with the right coach would work his magic.
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Post by Loyal Hoya on Mar 23, 2017 17:25:47 GMT -5
The new coach needs to decide of who he or she wants on the staff. If we want to bring in a great new coach we can't hamstring that person with requirements that they have to retain this or that assistant. I would have liked to have seen Jaren Jackson retained when JT III came in, but, at the end of the day, the new coach needs to decide.
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 23, 2017 17:25:54 GMT -5
Whoever takes over should be able to hire their own staff. What's more, a prospective head coach who was told that he must keep an assistant coach on the staff from the old coaching staff, and not have the ability to name his entire coaching staff, will not take the job.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 23, 2017 18:29:08 GMT -5
I appreciate what he's done for the program, but the recruiting has been in the dumps since the Copeland class, and that contributed to the demise. It's unfortunate, but I think we probably need to move on. The same will likely be true of Patrick Ewing Jr. and Jon Wallace. I believe that our class 2 years ago was pretty highly rated with Doc and Jessie. And Waters was a pretty good get. It would be good if the new coach wanted to keep Broadus for his recruiting. But of course that coach will determine his own staff.
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TC
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Post by TC on Mar 23, 2017 18:34:43 GMT -5
I appreciate what he's done for the program, but the recruiting has been in the dumps since the Copeland class, and that contributed to the demise. It's unfortunate, but I think we probably need to move on. The same will likely be true of Patrick Ewing Jr. and Jon Wallace. I believe that our class 2 years ago was pretty highly rated with Doc and Jessie. And Waters was a pretty good get. It would be good if the new coach wanted to keep Broadus for his recruiting. But of course that coach will determine his own staff. People can't out of one end of their mouth argue that the results weren't good enough and we need to make a change, and that it's a travesty we've missed on these DC-area recruits like Jenkins and Hart, and then simultaneously argue that we've got this great recruiter that we have to keep. Broadus shares in the blame that forced this change.
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Post by iowa80 on Mar 23, 2017 18:43:40 GMT -5
Whoever takes over should be able to hire their own staff. What's more, a prospective head coach who was told that he must keep an assistant coach on the staff from the old coaching staff, and not have the ability to name his entire coaching staff, will not take the job. Agreed, but it would make sense for a new coach-- particularly one with less than ideal area ties--to be open to some continuity. I know it doesn't happen, but Kevin would not be a bad fit. At all.
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Post by playtyler on Mar 23, 2017 19:38:41 GMT -5
I agree with this thread. The Copeland, white, peak class was good, then govan, darrickson, Johnson, then Pryor this year and waters next. Tons of talent. Too bad most of it isn't here any more, but broadus kept a high level of talent coming in. He would be a huge asset to a new coach.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 23, 2017 20:23:02 GMT -5
I agree with this thread. The Copeland, white, peak class was good, then govan, darrickson, Johnson, then Pryor this year and waters next. Tons of talent. Too bad most of it isn't here any more, but broadus kept a high level of talent coming in. He would be a huge asset to a new coach. I don't doubt that Broadus is a good recruiter and in a better situation he might get better results but if we get a good coach they're going to have a strong opinion, likely, on their assistants. I'm not opposed to Broadus in principle, but his wagon was hitched with JT3's and he will likely go too. If JT3 gets a new job it wouldn't shock me at all to see him bring Broadus along.
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Post by Buckets on Mar 23, 2017 20:34:22 GMT -5
I believe that our class 2 years ago was pretty highly rated with Doc and Jessie. And Waters was a pretty good get. It would be good if the new coach wanted to keep Broadus for his recruiting. But of course that coach will determine his own staff. People can't out of one end of their mouth argue that the results weren't good enough and we need to make a change, and that it's a travesty we've missed on these DC-area recruits like Jenkins and Hart, and then simultaneously argue that we've got this great recruiter that we have to keep. Broadus shares in the blame that forced this change. Blueandgray seemed pretty plugged in over the past few years and I wondered how -- pretty easy to see where his bread is buttered now. I've disagreed with 99% of TC's posts in 2017 but I think we're on the same page that Broadus needs to go. Even if you thought he was a great recruiter in his first stint, his recruiting ability clearly took a hit after his hundred or so NCAA violations destroyed the Binghamton program.
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Post by TC on Mar 23, 2017 20:42:23 GMT -5
I don't think B&G is the only one that Broadus has been leaking to :
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 23, 2017 20:55:14 GMT -5
I don't think B&G is the only one that Broadus has been leaking to : If Casual/Geiger was worried about Broadus, he may have wanted to re-evaluate the editorial direction of his website for the last year. Too late now. The new head coach needs free reign to hire whatever assistants are out there, and that isn't likely to include Broadus. I was and am a big supporter of JT3, but now that JT3 is gone, I think a clean slate is probably necessary. There isn't much sense in getting rid of the guy on top but keeping people underneath unless there's a very compelling reason to do so.
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Post by blueandgray on Mar 23, 2017 21:15:38 GMT -5
I don't think B&G is the only one that Broadus has been leaking to : Funny! CH has no relationship with Broadus but understands his role for this program. Look, I understand if a new coach brings an entire staff in broadus is out of luck. I am just saying however that there is no other asst with more contacts in the DMV....tough to see that go away...that's all.
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Mar 23, 2017 21:33:37 GMT -5
I would agree that the coach needs to choose his own staff and shouldn't be pigeon holed, but I'm with B&G, keeping Broadus would be a good idea
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Post by royski on Mar 23, 2017 21:36:42 GMT -5
If the new coach wants to keep Broadus, I'm cool with that. But it's his call, not the administration's.
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