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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 14, 2019 21:04:34 GMT -5
Did someone get in his ear or is he fishing for a better offer?
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Post by njhoya78 on Nov 14, 2019 21:10:14 GMT -5
May well be fishing...and can't really say that I blame him right now.
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Post by jwp91 on Nov 14, 2019 21:14:42 GMT -5
Commitment is in one’s actions not words.
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Post by daveg023 on Nov 14, 2019 21:26:21 GMT -5
May well be fishing...and can't really say that I blame him right now. I highly doubt watching our first two games are a factor here. Had we won easily is he signing? I don’t see it. Has to be something else there.
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Post by njhoya78 on Nov 14, 2019 22:07:35 GMT -5
May well be fishing...and can't really say that I blame him right now. I highly doubt watching our first two games are a factor here. Had we won easily is he signing? I don’t see it. Has to be something else there. You may well be right, but I think we can agree that our start to the season hasn't caused him to sign his name on the dotted line as soon as he could.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Nov 15, 2019 9:54:08 GMT -5
Oh no. Any time a player isn't 100% you can't like it. We should have been inking big time players 3 years in and we are currently looking at our 2nd & 3rd options. Terrance seemed to be a primary option. Last year it was the bigs with us missing on the kid that went to Washington, then the kid that went to Louisville & the other to West Virginia. I like Wahab long term and the other two seem like smart projects but damn, this is getting tired.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 15, 2019 10:01:15 GMT -5
Recruiting is everything. Good players make coaches look smart. 😉
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2019 10:09:41 GMT -5
It's a minor comfort that Sibley seems pretty interested in us. I like Williams and would rather have a 4/3 than a 3/4 -- as I think TW & JS are respectively -- but I think we'll have enough bodies there with either guy.
That said - it's not a great look to have a "defection". Hopefully it's more of a reflection of a young man's indecisiveness than a crumbling relationship between us & him or some outside (or worse, inside) view of the program as a whole.
Overall, though -- if we swap Sibley for Williams and use the open scholarship for a half-decent SG, I'd be happy with the class. God knows where that kid comes from, but I'm trying to stay positive.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Nov 15, 2019 10:59:51 GMT -5
I don't have any inside information, but I don't think this is as big of a deal as people are making it out to be.
Players can sign during the early signing period or the late signing period. Signing early guarantees your scholarship for your freshman year, so it's less likely you'll be recruited over. I don't think Terrance Williams should have any concerns about getting recruited over. And Sibley plays differently enough that I don't count that as getting recruited over.
Additionally, signing a NLI during the early signing period is pretty much only as strong of a commitment as a verbal commitment, as we saw with Tremont Waters who asked for his release from his NLI before the coaching change.
If Williams decommits at a later date, I'll admit that I was wrong. But at this point I just don't think this is very concerning.
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Post by Bigs"R"Us on Nov 15, 2019 11:05:27 GMT -5
There is no way that this development is a positive. He may very well end up here, but something triggered the decision to wait.
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Post by hoyaboya on Nov 15, 2019 11:44:24 GMT -5
There is no way that this development is a positive. He may very well end up here, but something triggered the decision to wait. Totally agree. If Sibley signs this week, losing Williams stings less. But it's not a good look to lose a local top 100 player from a great program. My hunch is he ends up at Virginia. And that the way the last 6 weeks have played out (Midnight Madness debacle, getting destroyed in an exhibition by UVA, losing RJ Davis, looking bad in the first couple home games in front of lousy crowds) have helped solidify any doubts Williams had when he committed.
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Post by guru on Nov 15, 2019 11:57:15 GMT -5
I don't have any inside information, but I don't think this is as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. Players can sign during the early signing period or the late signing period. Signing early guarantees your scholarship for your freshman year, so it's less likely you'll be recruited over. I don't think Terrance Williams should have any concerns about getting recruited over. And Sibley plays differently enough that I don't count that as getting recruited over. Additionally, signing a NLI during the early signing period is pretty much only as strong of a commitment as a verbal commitment, as we saw with Tremont Waters who asked for his release from his NLI before the coaching change. If Williams decommits at a later date, I'll admit that I was wrong. But at this point I just don't think this is very concerning. Well, it’s certainly not encouraging
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Post by madgesiq92 on Nov 15, 2019 12:18:44 GMT -5
I don't have any inside information, but I don't think this is as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. Players can sign during the early signing period or the late signing period. Signing early guarantees your scholarship for your freshman year, so it's less likely you'll be recruited over. I don't think Terrance Williams should have any concerns about getting recruited over. And Sibley plays differently enough that I don't count that as getting recruited over. Additionally, signing a NLI during the early signing period is pretty much only as strong of a commitment as a verbal commitment, as we saw with Tremont Waters who asked for his release from his NLI before the coaching change. If Williams decommits at a later date, I'll admit that I was wrong. But at this point I just don't think this is very concerning. I agree, this isn't concerning to me at all. And this comes from someone who otherwise thinks the sky is falling.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Nov 15, 2019 14:09:46 GMT -5
I don't have any inside information, but I don't think this is as big of a deal as people are making it out to be. Players can sign during the early signing period or the late signing period. Signing early guarantees your scholarship for your freshman year, so it's less likely you'll be recruited over. I don't think Terrance Williams should have any concerns about getting recruited over. And Sibley plays differently enough that I don't count that as getting recruited over. Additionally, signing a NLI during the early signing period is pretty much only as strong of a commitment as a verbal commitment, as we saw with Tremont Waters who asked for his release from his NLI before the coaching change. If Williams decommits at a later date, I'll admit that I was wrong. But at this point I just don't think this is very concerning. I agree, this isn't concerning to me at all. And this comes from someone who otherwise thinks the sky is falling. Hard to think one way or the other about Williams deciding to sign late without any of the facts to why he's waiting. We don't know if this was discussed and agreed upon since August or if it was news to the staff yesterday. Signing late is his prerogative and is something that is happening with high level recruits more & more over the last couple of years.
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Post by saxagael on Nov 15, 2019 17:20:58 GMT -5
I don't see this as overly concerning. Gonzaga is staying close to the Hoya program.
But, I think the only thing that is actually a concern is what may be going on with Lebanc (a hunch, but nothing more). Potential incoming players look at how the team is run and disciplines. Often the players players on college teams with chat with players who verbal over a season. Disruptions in teams players are looking forward to joining are things that can cause doubt. Terrance reportedly had it down to two school before picking Georgetown.
I'm not sure anything really would have changed since he made the commitment that would be a cause for concern other than the one hunch.
Talking with players the past few years about their process in selection and quality of the programs they are going to, a dip in play rarely isn't a concern as top D1 recruits believe they can contribute and help change things around. Fans panic, but players coming in think it is an opportunity (unless they doubt their ability and that isn't a player that gets an offer, usually).
One of the things that comes with signing is committing to the school's regime for workouts, visits, eating, and much more. Most top D1 schools give the kid a package they must follow, which adds pressure. I've talked to players that delayed signing to push that stress off until they were through their school season with the later signing. Being close to Georgetown I wouldn't be surprised that Georgetown with like him checking in and working out on campus a bit. Gonzaga has a good program with a lot workout and conditioning, but players also have personal skills coaches they like working with and most often schools strongly encourage players to use their skills and conditioning programs and coaching after signing if they are close to the school.
There are a lot of reason why a player may push off signing and often it isn't about changing their mind.
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Post by saxagael on Nov 15, 2019 17:32:08 GMT -5
It's a minor comfort that Sibley seems pretty interested in us. I like Williams and would rather have a 4/3 than a 3/4 -- as I think TW & JS are respectively -- but I think we'll have enough bodies there with either guy. That said - it's not a great look to have a "defection". Hopefully it's more of a reflection of a young man's indecisiveness than a crumbling relationship between us & him or some outside (or worse, inside) view of the program as a whole. Overall, though -- if we swap Sibley for Williams and use the open scholarship for a half-decent SG, I'd be happy with the class. God knows where that kid comes from, but I'm trying to stay positive. TW is a bit small for a college 4/3. His size is closer to a Marcus Smart plus an inch or so. Really close to Trawick as same height of 6'6" and somewhat similar tough game. TW is a better shooter that Trawick coming in.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Nov 15, 2019 21:42:48 GMT -5
Williams publicly congratulating a classmate for committing to the Georgetown baseball team.
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Post by dchoya72 on Nov 15, 2019 22:08:04 GMT -5
It's a minor comfort that Sibley seems pretty interested in us. I like Williams and would rather have a 4/3 than a 3/4 -- as I think TW & JS are respectively -- but I think we'll have enough bodies there with either guy. That said - it's not a great look to have a "defection". Hopefully it's more of a reflection of a young man's indecisiveness than a crumbling relationship between us & him or some outside (or worse, inside) view of the program as a whole. Overall, though -- if we swap Sibley for Williams and use the open scholarship for a half-decent SG, I'd be happy with the class. God knows where that kid comes from, but I'm trying to stay positive. TW is a bit small for a college 4/3. His size is closer to a Marcus Smart plus an inch or so. Really close to Trawick as same height of 6'6" and somewhat similar tough game. TW is a better shooter that Trawick coming in. I definitely don't think he will be a 4, perhaps a 3!
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 15, 2019 22:56:01 GMT -5
Williams publicly congratulating a classmate for committing to the Georgetown baseball team. Congratulations to the Ficca family. Christian's father was a pretty good athlete of his own at Georgetown, and an even better man. His mom was a student athlete as well at Georgetown and played volleyball.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Nov 17, 2019 12:23:16 GMT -5
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