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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 11, 2017 18:35:57 GMT -5
If we play defense at the same level of intensity as today, we can sweep.
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Post by HometownHoya on Feb 12, 2017 2:51:56 GMT -5
Creighton is another tough place to show up to. Need to be ready to fight 100%. If we can use our athleticism on the boards, the offense will come naturally.
Not excited about the long break between games at all.
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Post by bamahoya11 on Feb 12, 2017 9:35:25 GMT -5
This will be a big game in a tough environment. Creighton is nowhere close to where they were earlier in the season, but they are still a tough out. Playing in front of that home crowd, we will need our best performance of the year to get a win.
Normally, I wouldn't like the week gap at this point in the year, but this team has seemed to largely benefit from off time this year. In non conference play, we used the time off to improve before wins over LaSalle and Syracuse. In league play, we had almost a week off after the Providence debacle to prepare for a spirited performance at Xavier and a win over Creighton.
The team should use this week to continue to build on the lineups that work, leading with Peak, Pryor, and Govan. When the three of them have big days, we are really hard to beat. But if even one of them is off, we become really vulnerable. There isn't really a strong fourth option behind them, but we are developing some really good role players with Mosley, Agau, and Johnson off the bench. Hope they can improve and Campbell and Hayes can get well.
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Post by hobokenhoya on Feb 12, 2017 9:54:57 GMT -5
This will be a big game in a tough environment. Creighton is nowhere close to where they were earlier in the season, but they are still a tough out. Playing in front of that home crowd, we will need our best performance of the year to get a win. Normally, I wouldn't like the week gap at this point in the year, but this team has seemed to largely benefit from off time this year. In non conference play, we used the time off to improve before wins over LaSalle and Syracuse. In league play, we had almost a week off after the Providence debacle to prepare for a spirited performance at Xavier and a win over Creighton. The team should use this week to continue to build on the lineups that work, leading with Peak, Pryor, and Govan. When the three of them have big days, we are really hard to beat. But if even one of them is off, we become really vulnerable. There isn't really a strong fourth option behind them, but we are developing some really good role players with Mosley, Agau, and Johnson off the bench. Hope they can improve and Campbell and Hayes can get well. I don't think Hayes or Campbell should see meaningful time (foul trouble aside) going forward. We need Derrickson to find his stroke (from 3) to be our strong fourth option. Tightening the rotation has helped a lot so our starting 5 plus Agau, Mosley and Kaleb should be enough. Need to get 3 of the next 4 to make our finale against Nova an NCAA tourney play in game, which I firmly believe it would be at that point.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Feb 12, 2017 13:24:11 GMT -5
It seems pretty clear we have been working very hard on defense in practice. The extra time this week will give us time to keep improving.
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Post by hoyaboya on Feb 12, 2017 14:53:58 GMT -5
This will be a big game in a tough environment. Creighton is nowhere close to where they were earlier in the season, but they are still a tough out. Playing in front of that home crowd, we will need our best performance of the year to get a win. Normally, I wouldn't like the week gap at this point in the year, but this team has seemed to largely benefit from off time this year. In non conference play, we used the time off to improve before wins over LaSalle and Syracuse. In league play, we had almost a week off after the Providence debacle to prepare for a spirited performance at Xavier and a win over Creighton. The team should use this week to continue to build on the lineups that work, leading with Peak, Pryor, and Govan. When the three of them have big days, we are really hard to beat. But if even one of them is off, we become really vulnerable. There isn't really a strong fourth option behind them, but we are developing some really good role players with Mosley, Agau, and Johnson off the bench. Hope they can improve and Campbell and Hayes can get well. I don't think Hayes or Campbell should see meaningful time (foul trouble aside) going forward. We need Derrickson to find his stroke (from 3) to be our strong fourth option. Tightening the rotation has helped a lot so our starting 5 plus Agau, Mosley and Kaleb should be enough. Need to get 3 of the next 4 to make our finale against Nova an NCAA tourney play in game, which I firmly believe it would be at that point. Tend to agree with the comments on tightening the rotation. I can't see any reason for Campbell to play for the rest of the season, too many guys ahead of him and he doesn't bring anything meaningful to the table. Hayes could potentially be useful in certain matchups against plodding bigs (Xavier's O'Mara for example, if we play them in the BET). Cameron is another one that might be able to help in certain situations (i.e., shooter vs. a zone). But the bulk of bench minutes going to Agau, Mosely and Johnson seems to make sense.
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Post by bamahoya11 on Feb 12, 2017 20:03:54 GMT -5
I don't think Hayes or Campbell should see meaningful time (foul trouble aside) going forward. We need Derrickson to find his stroke (from 3) to be our strong fourth option. Tightening the rotation has helped a lot so our starting 5 plus Agau, Mosley and Kaleb should be enough. Need to get 3 of the next 4 to make our finale against Nova an NCAA tourney play in game, which I firmly believe it would be at that point. Tend to agree with the comments on tightening the rotation. I can't see any reason for Campbell to play for the rest of the season, too many guys ahead of him and he doesn't bring anything meaningful to the table. Hayes could potentially be useful in certain matchups against plodding bigs (Xavier's O'Mara for example, if we play them in the BET). Cameron is another one that might be able to help in certain situations (i.e., shooter vs. a zone). But the bulk of bench minutes going to Agau, Mosely and Johnson seems to make sense. I am completely agreed on tightening the lineup. Campbell has fallen behind on the depth chart as Mulmorr has really owned running the point, and Jagan is doing a great job off the bench. I just hope Campbell gets to feeling better. Hayes we can use. We did a great job of managing our fouls on Saturday, and all of our interior guys picked up two in the first half, which is why we played Mourning. We even played Govan for a while with two and brought Derrickson in for some short spots with two fouls, The biggest reason we didn't have much trouble is because the outcome wasn't really in doubt for much of the second half, so we could play a little conservatively. I don't think Hayes should get that much PT, but he can give us 5 minutes off the bench, grab a couple points and rebounds. The big thing he adds though is some depth inside. But I tend to think that Jagan and Akoy should be our primary rotation guys, with Bradley and Kaleb used sparingly.
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Post by bicentennial on Feb 12, 2017 20:52:58 GMT -5
I kind of hate to start believing in the team again since it seems to never work out well but if we can play as well as we did at home against Creighton and Marquette, we could win at Creighton. The all we would need is to not let down against Seton Hall, St. John's and DePaul and we would be playing Nova with a serious head of steam. Meanwhile other teams like Xavier have racked up some serious injuries and may start losing games because their players are hurt. I think the key to Bradley's usage is who we are playing. He is our best center if playing a strong back to the basket center. Playing more mobile centers, Govan is much more important and more BE teams have mobile centers.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Feb 12, 2017 21:54:47 GMT -5
I kind of hate to start believing in the team again since it seems to never work out well but if we can play as well as we did at home against Creighton and Marquette, we could win at Creighton. The all we would need is to not let down against Seton Hall, St. John's and DePaul and we would be playing Nova with a serious head of steam. I agree, though this basically means we go 4-0 in the next two weeks, which is still a tall task. All four of those games are winnable, though, so it isn't impossible, and I am sure the team knows they need all of them to have a chance at getting into the tournament in March. Win those 4 and we are likely in the tournament (granted, close to the bubble) regardless of what happens in the last Villanova game. It's a tall task, but one I hope for.
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Post by aggypryd on Feb 13, 2017 6:21:36 GMT -5
Stating the obvious, if Govan is passive or gets in foul trouble, our chances drop tremendously. Expecting LJ and Pryor to continue to shine. Need someone else to start showing up to the games instead of being out there making the teams even.
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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Feb 13, 2017 8:26:42 GMT -5
Creighton playing a lot better after getting adjusted to life without Mo. Our guys better strap up this game.
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Feb 13, 2017 9:40:15 GMT -5
Asking 4-0 of this team, including getting 3 of those on the road, seems unrealistic. But if we can pick off Creighton for a second time I will start to believe.
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Post by NCHoya on Feb 13, 2017 10:07:42 GMT -5
After what I saw against Marquette, I now know the Hoyas have the ability to play defense at a high level. If they lose because their shooting is off (like 1-19 against SHU), I can deal with that, but they have shown themselves to be very capable of playing good defense.
No reason that should not stop after MU. I expect to see that defense against Creighton which will make this a close, winnable game. They have a week to keep improving on that end and concentrating reps for that smaller rotation. This gives me some hope for a run to close out the season.
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Post by sleepy on Feb 13, 2017 11:21:26 GMT -5
Don't get fooled by the defense MU really lacks the speed and the mental ability to have attacked our defense on saturday. Legitimate guards whould have eaten us alive on some of those switches. I kept waiting for them to throw it in low on Mosely and Mulmore on their smallish big men but it never happened. Outside of a couple of PnRs they never forced us to make any adjustments.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Feb 13, 2017 12:13:23 GMT -5
Don't get fooled by the defense MU really lacks the speed and the mental ability to have attacked our defense on saturday. Legitimate guards whould have eaten us alive on some of those switches. I kept waiting for them to throw it in low on Mosely and Mulmore on their smallish big men but it never happened. Outside of a couple of PnRs they never forced us to make any adjustments. You're absolutely right. But I don't expect we'll play the same way against Creighton. I don't think we'll switch everything.
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Post by vv83 on Feb 13, 2017 13:30:29 GMT -5
Don't get fooled by the defense MU really lacks the speed and the mental ability to have attacked our defense on saturday. Legitimate guards whould have eaten us alive on some of those switches. I kept waiting for them to throw it in low on Mosely and Mulmore on their smallish big men but it never happened. Outside of a couple of PnRs they never forced us to make any adjustments. You're absolutely right. But I don't expect we'll play the same way against Creighton. I don't think we'll switch everything. we started aggressively trapping the guard on the "pick and roll " in our first Creighton game. It will be interesting to see if we try that again. McDermott is a good offensive coach - he will have his team better prepared for that defensive approach this time around. Creighton shot really poorly in DC, they'll likely shoot much better this time around. We'll need to have a good offensive game - my guess is that the winning team in this game will be in the high 70s/low 80s.
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Post by lda05816 on Feb 14, 2017 13:02:58 GMT -5
Creighton has started to figure out things in the Post-Mo era having won 3 of 4. Although 2 of the 3 wins are Depaul, they did win on the road at Butler. They are only 1-2 at home since losing Mo (with the 1 win being Depaul). Khyri Thomas has really started to play well and is the perimeter guy we need to hone in on, as well as Foster. We have to continue to run them off the 3 point line, but it's unlikely we hold them to 1-18 again. If Patton is guarding Govan, need to go at him early and see if they can get him in foul trouble. If he starts killing us in the post, it's going to open up the kick out 3's and be really tough for us to win. It'll be interesting to see if and when we decide to double him.
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Post by OldHoyafan on Feb 17, 2017 0:27:43 GMT -5
Patton is their best player now. He is a talented center with great moves with his back to the basket. They will go to him a lot and often. It will be imperative that the Hoyas not leave Govan one on one with Patton because he will get him in foul trouble early. It's a home game for them and the refs will more than likely call ticky tack fouls on Govan and Dickerson.
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Post by huskerpower on Feb 17, 2017 6:19:13 GMT -5
I will be there Sunday cheering on the Hoyas and my boy Akoy. Only a 100 mile drive for me. I HATE Creighton!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by seaweed on Feb 17, 2017 13:40:04 GMT -5
Patton is their best player now. He is a talented center with great moves with his back to the basket. They will go to him a lot and often. It will be imperative that the Hoyas not leave Govan one on one with Patton because he will get him in foul trouble early. It's a home game for them and the refs will more than likely call ticky tack fouls on Govan and Dickerson. I may vatch grief for saying this, but BHayes csn B'effective G-fensively v Patton. Possibly our best pure post defender (maybe AA).
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