hoyajinx
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Post by hoyajinx on Jan 2, 2017 15:31:27 GMT -5
I would study UVA's D and try to mirror what they are doing. Our on ball D stinks. Other then Mulmore's unexplainable throwing of the ball out of bounds, TO's weren't bad. We missed too many FT's late and we couldn't guard Sumner. Macura outhustled us and we are 0-2. Gotta win the next four to get back to relevance. Next 4? Very tall order. If we can beat Providence, St John's and UCONN, I'll take it. The only problem is it doesn't help us a whole lot to win just those three. Losing to an objectively terrible UConn team or an arguably terrible St. John's team at home means we have a lot of extra work to do in other conference games. The PC win would be good, but it would be completely offset and then some by losing either game against those two. We need to get the type of wins like Butler at home in order to even sniff a moderately successful season. Pretty soon, we will be running out of time to get those type wins. I think we need the next four or we realistically have no margin for error for the rest of the season.
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bamahoya11
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Post by bamahoya11 on Jan 2, 2017 15:47:48 GMT -5
I expect both teams to come out aggressively in this one. It's really as close to a "must-win" as you can get for both teams, now that Providence is also off to an 0-2 start in league play. Providence has looked a bit outmatched in both of their games. I figured that would be likely once they got into league play. Still, I expect them to come out disciplined, focused, and playing really hard at home. This is a game that Georgetown really needs to win. I hope that Pryor and Peak are both ready to bring it. We will need for them to have a good game and also hope that we can get something out of one of our guards and/or interior players.
Based on what I saw against Xavier, I would tend to favor starting Mulmore. He's a liability on defense, but I think our defense will be spotty regardless of who we play. We need to go all in on running as smooth an offense as possible. At the 5, I really don't know what to do. I like the idea of playing small and starting Agau, and I also like the idea of starting Bradley. I would not start Govan, though. He needs to realize that, with his size, he has to be a better defender.
This is a winnable game. Hope we can get it done.
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Jan 2, 2017 19:52:02 GMT -5
Watching PSU-USC. Can we hire PSU coach Franklin to coach, or at lest asst coach, our bball team? Don't know what he did to that team at halftime but I've never seen a team as pumped and playing with as much intensity as PSU is right now. Definitely haven't seen a Hoya team play with this much fire since the 80"s.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jan 2, 2017 20:28:57 GMT -5
Watching PSU-USC. Can we hire PSU coach Franklin to coach, or at lest asst coach, our bball team? Don't know what he did to that team at halftime but I've never seen a team as pumped and playing with as much intensity as PSU is right now. Definitely haven't seen a Hoya team play with this much fire since the 80"s. Georgetown football needs it more right now than basketball does.
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eagle54
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Post by eagle54 on Jan 2, 2017 21:20:19 GMT -5
Watching PSU-USC. Can we hire PSU coach Franklin to coach, or at lest asst coach, our bball team? Don't know what he did to that team at halftime but I've never seen a team as pumped and playing with as much intensity as PSU is right now. Definitely haven't seen a Hoya team play with this much fire since the 80"s. Georgetown football needs it more right now than basketball does. I think we need Joe Moorhead more. I think his short stint at Georgetown as offensive coordinator was one of the few periods we had a good offense.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 2, 2017 21:31:51 GMT -5
Watching PSU-USC. Can we hire PSU coach Franklin to coach, or at lest asst coach, our bball team? Don't know what he did to that team at halftime but I've never seen a team as pumped and playing with as much intensity as PSU is right now. Definitely haven't seen a Hoya team play with this much fire since the 80"s. Would be nice to see some added intensity, but I think we already have defensive meltdowns and bad decision-making in end of game situations covered.
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eagle54
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Post by eagle54 on Jan 2, 2017 21:43:28 GMT -5
Watching PSU-USC. Can we hire PSU coach Franklin to coach, or at lest asst coach, our bball team? Don't know what he did to that team at halftime but I've never seen a team as pumped and playing with as much intensity as PSU is right now. Definitely haven't seen a Hoya team play with this much fire since the 80"s. Would be nice to see some added intensity, but I think we already have defensive meltdowns and bad decision-making in end of game situations covered. Except they were playing USC in the Rose Bowl not FGCU in the first round or Ark St at McDonough.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 2, 2017 21:50:51 GMT -5
Would be nice to see some added intensity, but I think we already have defensive meltdowns and bad decision-making in end of game situations covered. Except they were playing USC in the Rose Bowl not FGCU in the first round or Ark St at McDonough. It'd be nice if we ever had a second half lead to blow in either of those games you mentioned, but I get ya.
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eagle54
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Post by eagle54 on Jan 2, 2017 21:54:17 GMT -5
Except they were playing USC in the Rose Bowl not FGCU in the first round or Ark St at McDonough. It'd be nice if we ever had a second half lead to blow in either of those games you mentioned, but I get ya. Right, we normally just lose. MD would be that game this year but I think we choked that one away far worse than PSU did tonight.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Jan 3, 2017 7:39:47 GMT -5
Providence is solid but very beatable. Go get it Hoyas!
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KHoyaNYC
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Post by KHoyaNYC on Jan 3, 2017 23:17:25 GMT -5
Less than 24 hours to game time and hardly a post all day. Interest is waning. We need a win.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Jan 4, 2017 8:22:33 GMT -5
Let those who are not interested in Hoya hoops when the team is 0-2 in the BEAST go find another pursuit. I am pumped up for this game...GO HOYAS!
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fanofjack
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Post by fanofjack on Jan 4, 2017 10:00:15 GMT -5
Will be front and center in Providence for this one tonight. Hoping to see a spark from this team!
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 4, 2017 10:05:33 GMT -5
Interest certainly ebbs as a program goes through tough times, at least for the more casual fans. But the board will be watching, rooting, yelling, celebrating and complaining tonight.
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calhoya
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Post by calhoya on Jan 4, 2017 10:07:55 GMT -5
Cloudy and cool day here but still feeling very optimistic about Hoya chances tonight. 0-1 on this trip so far. Locals seem to feel good about their chances after 3 road losses to good teams. Most complaints we hear are about the Friar defense but Cooley quoted in the paper complaining about missing easy opportunities on offense. After some near misses against this team the past couple of years, it is time for the Hoyas to right the ship. Need Hayes, Govan and MD to take advantage of what should be mismatches inside, but that will require consistent effort on both ends and staying out of foul trouble. Hoping that someone else besides Pryor and Peak shows up on offense and that one of the 3 PGs can actually generate some points from the outside.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 4, 2017 11:27:45 GMT -5
Need to show up from the opening tip. Intensity and rebounding will win the day.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Jan 4, 2017 11:30:05 GMT -5
We've played pretty solid basketball four of the last five games (I'm including X as "solid" and saying Marquette is the one exception). I think if we do that again today, we win. Just play solid, if unspectacular, defense without giving up a ton of easy layups or open threes or free throws. Hope they don't get hot from three even with the solid D. And then keep generating solid looks within the offense.
Really, if we do that over the next five games, we ought to win at least four (given the quality of our opponents), and be right back in the thick of things.
I'm not among those on the "just go with Mulmore and let him learn" bandwagon. We can't afford to let someone make significant mistakes and work through them, given where we are this year (and over the past couple years). I don't really care who starts at PG. If it's Mulmore, that's fine. But that person needs to, at a minimum, not turn the ball over, keep the opposing PG in front of him, and not miss a lot of shots. If that person can hit open threes and/or get into the lane and either score or dish, well, all the better. But I think we have to continue trying to play the hot hand there, until someone clearly shows they should get the most minutes. And if there's no hot hand, at least play the hand that isn't proactively hurting us.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 4, 2017 12:14:31 GMT -5
You certainly can't blame the coach for being a little trigger-happy with his point guards. Many see this year - or at least want to see it - as a make or break season for him. He has to get production where he can, and cannot afford to allow too much on-the-job training if too many mistakes are involved.
Hopefully the rough edges get smoothed out very quickly, it would crystallize the rotation.
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Post by EtomicB on Jan 4, 2017 12:20:46 GMT -5
We've played pretty solid basketball four of the last five games (I'm including X as "solid" and saying Marquette is the one exception). I think if we do that again today, we win. Just play solid, if unspectacular, defense without giving up a ton of easy layups or open threes or free throws. Hope they don't get hot from three even with the solid D. And then keep generating solid looks within the offense. Really, if we do that over the next five games, we ought to win at least four (given the quality of our opponents), and be right back in the thick of things. I'm not among those on the "just go with Mulmore and let him learn" bandwagon. We can't afford to let someone make significant mistakes and work through them, given where we are this year (and over the past couple years). I don't really care who starts at PG. If it's Mulmore, that's fine. But that person needs to, at a minimum, not turn the ball over, keep the opposing PG in front of him, and not miss a lot of shots. If that person can hit open threes and/or get into the lane and either score or dish, well, all the better. But I think we have to continue trying to play the hot hand there, until someone clearly shows they should get the most minutes. And if there's no hot hand, at least play the hand that isn't proactively hurting us. My question is how do you know who the hot hand is/will be in a few minutes of court time? To me this method has always been flawed and kinda shortsighted.. Govan & Hayes make mistakes too, same with Derrickson, Peak and Pryor but they're allowed to play thru them, shouldn't that be the case for everyone?
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Post by RockawayHoya on Jan 4, 2017 12:36:17 GMT -5
We've played pretty solid basketball four of the last five games (I'm including X as "solid" and saying Marquette is the one exception). I think if we do that again today, we win. Just play solid, if unspectacular, defense without giving up a ton of easy layups or open threes or free throws. Hope they don't get hot from three even with the solid D. And then keep generating solid looks within the offense. Really, if we do that over the next five games, we ought to win at least four (given the quality of our opponents), and be right back in the thick of things. I'm not among those on the "just go with Mulmore and let him learn" bandwagon. We can't afford to let someone make significant mistakes and work through them, given where we are this year (and over the past couple years). I don't really care who starts at PG. If it's Mulmore, that's fine. But that person needs to, at a minimum, not turn the ball over, keep the opposing PG in front of him, and not miss a lot of shots. If that person can hit open threes and/or get into the lane and either score or dish, well, all the better. But I think we have to continue trying to play the hot hand there, until someone clearly shows they should get the most minutes. And if there's no hot hand, at least play the hand that isn't proactively hurting us. My question is how do you know who the hot hand is/will be in a few minutes of court time? To me this method has always been flawed and kinda shortsighted.. Govan & Hayes make mistakes too, same with Derrickson, Peak and Pryor but they're allowed to play thru them, shouldn't that be the case for everyone? Agree with this. I wonder if the staff has considered lineups that don't include any of the 3 PGs. None of them have shown the ability to consistently dribble against pressure, shoot from the perimeter, or stay in front of their man. Instead of putting ourselves at a disadvantage, couldn't we just go big at the 3/4/5 and see if a larger lineup improves our mediocre rebounding? I think Govan and Derrickson provide enough respectability from deep that we could still space efficiently on the offensive end.
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