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Post by eagle54 on Jul 25, 2016 23:01:26 GMT -5
I tend to support the Republican party when they put a fit candidate forth but have to say the Dems were out to a strong start tonight. Made last week's convention look like amateur hour that clearly lacked the star power in the party to carry a convention. Having Chachi and the other B-listers in prime time is just not comparing to what was just Monday this week.
Also, with the Bern giving a very strong speech endorsing Hillary versus the Cruz lack of support last week was very telling of where this is headed.
Not sure where it goes from here but makes for good TV.
Also, Cory Booker may be next Obama after that speech tonight.
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Post by This Just In on Jul 26, 2016 10:28:52 GMT -5
I tend to support the Republican party when they put a fit candidate forth but have to say the Dems were out to a strong start tonight. Made last week's convention look like amateur hour that clearly lacked the star power in the party to carry a convention. Having Chachi and the other B-listers in prime time is just not comparing to what was just Monday this week. Also, with the Bern giving a very strong speech endorsing Hillary versus the Cruz lack of support last week was very telling of where this is headed. Not sure where it goes from here but makes for good TV. Also, Cory Booker may be next Obama after that speech tonight. Debbie Wassermann-Schultz booed and Pre-Convention Event: Below is video of the booing at the kick-off of the convention: Michelle Obama's speech in prime-time:
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Post by This Just In on Jul 27, 2016 13:16:09 GMT -5
Bill O’Reilly: Slaves Were Well Fed and Decently Housed - Response to Michelle Obama's DNC Speech
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Post by kchoya on Jul 27, 2016 21:23:09 GMT -5
Bill O’Reilly: Slaves Were Well Fed and Decently Housed - Response to Michelle Obama's DNC Speech Boy, talking about a stretch. The outrage machine must really be running out of topics
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Post by eagle54 on Jul 27, 2016 21:59:14 GMT -5
Bill O’Reilly: Slaves Were Well Fed and Decently Housed - Response to Michelle Obama's DNC Speech Boy, talking about a stretch. The outrage machine must really be running out of topics This is about as idiotic a comment as someone could make and hold themselves out as a responsible journalist. But as I've read your posts I understand where your support lies and that you would believe the slaves should have been appreciative of their treatment. You are unbelievable.
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Post by tashoya on Jul 27, 2016 22:18:39 GMT -5
Bill O'Reilly is and always has been an entertainer. Nothing more. I still find it hard to believe that a leftist writer hasn't written the "Killing Bill O'Reilly" book yet.
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Post by eagle54 on Jul 27, 2016 22:26:04 GMT -5
Bill O'Reilly is and always has been an entertainer. Nothing more. I still find it hard to believe that a leftist writer hasn't written the "Killing Bill O'Reilly" book yet. He works for a news network not comedy central. Should have some standards about comments that are that insensitive.
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Post by tashoya on Jul 27, 2016 22:27:14 GMT -5
Bill O'Reilly is and always has been an entertainer. Nothing more. I still find it hard to believe that a leftist writer hasn't written the "Killing Bill O'Reilly" book yet. He works for a news network not comedy central. Should have some standards about comments that are that insensitive. Keep in mind the network for which he works. The standards are not exactly those of an actual news network. He's par for the course there.
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Post by eagle54 on Jul 27, 2016 22:31:44 GMT -5
He works for a news network not comedy central. Should have some standards about comments that are that insensitive. Keep in mind the network for which he works. The standards are not exactly those of an actual news network. He's par for the course there. That's another story but they do hold themselves out as a news network.
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Post by tashoya on Jul 27, 2016 22:37:01 GMT -5
Keep in mind the network for which he works. The standards are not exactly those of an actual news network. He's par for the course there. That's another story but they do hold themselves out as a news network. Fair enough. I just don't agree that they are one. Not that they're alone in that regard.
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Post by eagle54 on Jul 27, 2016 22:42:22 GMT -5
That's another story but they do hold themselves out as a news network. Fair enough. I just don't agree that they are one. Not that they're alone in that regard. All the networks have agendas and I get that. However, that's a racist comment on any level even if you are trying to be funny or entertaining not newsworthy.
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Post by kchoya on Jul 27, 2016 22:51:18 GMT -5
Boy, talking about a stretch. The outrage machine must really be running out of topics This is about as idiotic a comment as someone could make and hold themselves out as a responsible journalist. But as I've read your posts I understand where your support lies and that you would believe the slaves should have been appreciative of their treatment. You are unbelievable. I'm doubting you understand the English language. What did he say that was inaccurate? Where did he say the slaves should have been appreciative, or had a good life?
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jul 27, 2016 22:57:34 GMT -5
This is about as idiotic a comment as someone could make and hold themselves out as a responsible journalist. But as I've read your posts I understand where your support lies and that you would believe the slaves should have been appreciative of their treatment. You are unbelievable. I'm doubting you understand the English language. What did he say that was inaccurate? Where did he say the slaves should have been appreciative, or had a good life? He was ignorant for making the statement. You are ignorant for defending him and the statement. Context matters.
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Post by eagle54 on Jul 27, 2016 22:58:42 GMT -5
This is about as idiotic a comment as someone could make and hold themselves out as a responsible journalist. But as I've read your posts I understand where your support lies and that you would believe the slaves should have been appreciative of their treatment. You are unbelievable. I'm doubting you understand the English language. What did he say that was inaccurate? Where did he say the slaves should have been appreciative, or had a good life? You are being condescending again, that's a surprise to this board. Are you saying that's not a racially insensitive comment to talk about slaves being treating very well? Seems like an oxymoron type statement but obviously I don't command the language like you. You either are just an apologist for the party and Trump which I can understand or you are far worse in your views of things race related.
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Post by tashoya on Jul 27, 2016 22:59:10 GMT -5
Fair enough. I just don't agree that they are one. Not that they're alone in that regard. All the networks have agendas and I get that. However, that's a racist comment on any level even if you are trying to be funny or entertaining not newsworthy. I agree. I just don't think it's all that out of character for that particular so-called network. They stoke hate and racism daily under the guise of free speech and cry foul when they get flak for it. If you say stupid in public, expect public backlash. That's the beauty of free speech. You have to defend your position and do so effectively. Bill O'Reilly is a personality. He's a guy from Levittown, NY that realized at a young age that the people around him were only worried about their own family and their own neighborhood and were tired of having to participate in the world community because nearly everyone from his hometown knew personally the cost of war in very real terms. I understand where he's coming from because my mother is from a neighboring town and not that far off in age. My dad is from a few towns away and grew up with a similar mentality. I think I mostly get how Bill O'Reilly thinks. I just don't believe his thoughts are news. And, as such, the "news" network that airs his program shouldn't qualify it as a news program. It's editorial at best.
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Post by eagle54 on Jul 27, 2016 23:05:10 GMT -5
All the networks have agendas and I get that. However, that's a racist comment on any level even if you are trying to be funny or entertaining not newsworthy. I agree. I just don't think it's all that out of character for that particular so-called network. They stoke hate and racism daily under the guise of free speech and cry foul when they get flak for it. If you say stupid Edited in public, expect public backlash. That's the beauty of free speech. You have to defend your position and do so effectively. Bill O'Reilly is a personality. He's a guy from Levittown, NY that realized at a young age that the people around him were only worried about their own family and their own neighborhood and were tired of having to participate in the world community because nearly everyone from his hometown knew personally the cost of war in very real terms. I understand where he's coming from because my mother is from a neighboring town and not that far off in age. My dad is from a few towns away and grew up with a similar mentality. I think I mostly get how Bill O'Reilly thinks. I just don't believe his thoughts are news. And, as such, the "news" network that airs his program shouldn't qualify it as a news program. It's editorial at best. He has too be held to more than that if he's going out on a major network's primary news broadcast. If he was on some satellite radio for his followers than that might work. But if Fox is trying to create legitimacy as a news network you can't have that. I get what their agenda is but that's the problem. I'm a Republican and can't watch that network as I want to get something that isn't filtered through a liberal or conservative view.
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Post by tashoya on Jul 27, 2016 23:14:54 GMT -5
I agree. I just don't think it's all that out of character for that particular so-called network. They stoke hate and racism daily under the guise of free speech and cry foul when they get flak for it. If you say stupid Edited in public, expect public backlash. That's the beauty of free speech. You have to defend your position and do so effectively. Bill O'Reilly is a personality. He's a guy from Levittown, NY that realized at a young age that the people around him were only worried about their own family and their own neighborhood and were tired of having to participate in the world community because nearly everyone from his hometown knew personally the cost of war in very real terms. I understand where he's coming from because my mother is from a neighboring town and not that far off in age. My dad is from a few towns away and grew up with a similar mentality. I think I mostly get how Bill O'Reilly thinks. I just don't believe his thoughts are news. And, as such, the "news" network that airs his program shouldn't qualify it as a news program. It's editorial at best. He has too be held to more than that if he's going out on a major network's primary news broadcast. If he was on some satellite radio for his followers than that might work. But if Fox is trying to create legitimacy as a news network you can't have that. I get what their agenda is but that's the problem. I'm a Republican and can't watch that network as I want to get something that isn't filtered through a liberal or conservative view. I guess our disconnect stems from the fact that I don't consider Fox News a legitimate news outlet. Maybe I'm in the minority in that belief. That's the sort of BS I expect from that, umm.., channel? To your point, if they were a legitimate news network, they wouldn't tolerate that I wouldn't think. My guess is that there will be no blowback because they are are an entertainment network that panders to a very specific segment of the population. I find it much more disturbing that he has an audience that seems to agree with him or, at the least, enjoys his opinions. One person on a garbage tv channel is one thing. Him having a following that points to him as a person worthy of evidence for most arguments is disconcerting at best.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 28, 2016 6:08:49 GMT -5
He has too be held to more than that if he's going out on a major network's primary news broadcast. If he was on some satellite radio for his followers than that might work. But if Fox is trying to create legitimacy as a news network you can't have that. I get what their agenda is but that's the problem. I'm a Republican and can't watch that network as I want to get something that isn't filtered through a liberal or conservative view. I guess our disconnect stems from the fact that I don't consider Fox News a legitimate news outlet. Maybe I'm in the minority in that belief. That's the sort of BS I expect from that, umm.., channel? To your point, if they were a legitimate news network, they wouldn't tolerate that I wouldn't think. My guess is that there will be no blowback because they are are an entertainment network that panders to a very specific segment of the population. I find it much more disturbing that he has an audience that seems to agree with him or, at the least, enjoys his opinions. One person on a garbage tv channel is one thing. Him having a following that points to him as a person worthy of evidence for most arguments is disconcerting at best. Fox News pioneered a distinction that MSNBC and even CNN now emulate - there are "news" personalities and "opinion" personalities side by side. Shepard Smith and Bret Baier are covering news, Bill O'Reilly is covering opinion. MSNBC is going in the same direction after cutting many of the fringe-left hosts (Ed Schultz, Melissa Harris-Perry, downgrading Al Sharpton to an obscure Sunday morning show) to build up a news block from 9am through 6 pm. Remember, CNN broadcasts regular shows with Anthony Bourdain and Morgan Spurlock and neither are journalists, any more than Larry King was when he hosted a show.
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Post by kchoya on Jul 28, 2016 6:52:10 GMT -5
I'm doubting you understand the English language. What did he say that was inaccurate? Where did he say the slaves should have been appreciative, or had a good life? He was ignorant for making the statement. You are ignorant for defending him and the statement. Context matters. Did you even listen to the piece? He praised Michelle Obama, then he spent 90 seconds talking about how the White House was built, with slaves being a part of that. Please tell me how he was being ignorant. You're really trying hard to be outraged on something so innocuous. This was the television equivalent of me of those roadside historical markers.
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Post by kchoya on Jul 28, 2016 6:54:39 GMT -5
I'm doubting you understand the English language. What did he say that was inaccurate? Where did he say the slaves should have been appreciative, or had a good life? You are being condescending again, that's a surprise to this board. Are you saying that's not a racially insensitive comment to talk about slaves being treating very well? Seems like an oxymoron type statement but obviously I don't command the language like you. You either are just an apologist for the party and Trump which I can understand or you are far worse in your views of things race related. Talking about slaves being treated well? It's clear you didn't even listen to the piece. You're even dumber than I thought. Why don't you quote the language YOU have trouble with and tell me why that language is inaccurate and racist.
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