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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 26, 2016 18:33:27 GMT -5
Ugh. More FS1 news then BE news but Skip Bayless is leaving ESPN to join Fox Sports. A man who burns bridges everywhere he goes. Bayless, now 60, spent 15 years in Dallas and no one can say much good about him to this day. After the Dallas Times-Herald folded, he was the first morning host at all-sports KTCK-AM. He quit a year later, and has never been invited back again. His former producer Mike Fernandez compared Bayless to his successor by saying: "One of them is talented, kind and compassionate. The other isn't. You figure it out. " From a 2013 Washington Post article: "At the beginning of each week, he orders five days’ worth of chicken and broccoli (no sauce), his nightly dinners. Every weekend he stops by the same Manhattan deli and buys five sandwiches to bring back to his weekday home in Connecticut, his daily lunch. He’s a health nut who exercises twice a day. Every Sunday morning is church, every Friday is date night and every evening in between is the same: chicken and broccoli — and sports." www.washingtonpost.com/sports/skip-bayless-espn2-first-take-co-host-may-be-the-most-hated-man-in-sports/2013/09/13/c001a7c2-170a-11e3-804b-d3a1a3a18f2c_story.html
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Post by dreamhoya on Apr 26, 2016 18:41:58 GMT -5
i like skip; i don't know him; Maybe he is a bad guy, maybe not. Bigger for me is, seems like Fox is really putting in work...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 10:33:44 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 11:08:14 GMT -5
www.arlingtonmagazine.com/May-June-2016/Why-Former-Georgetown-Coach-Craig-Esherick-Pivoted-From-Basketball-to-the-Classroom/Life After Georgetown: I was offered a job with a TV network startup called College Sports Television (CST) in New York and worked there for 2½ years while my family stayed in Arlington. I loved the job and learned a lot, but I hated the commute. My career path also was impacted by my wife and her professional aspirations. [Theo Stamos is currently the Commonwealth’s Attorney for Arlington County.] Coaching requires you to be ready to relocate, and I became less interested in doing that. Between scouting, recruiting and the regular season, a college basketball coach is never home. I felt that Theo had shouldered the responsibility of raising our boys long enough. I wanted to be able to spend more time with my family. Call Me Professor: During my time in New York, I was asked to be a guest lecturer at NYU. When I learned that George Mason University had a Sport Management program, I made my pitch, and they offered me a position as an adjunct professor. I’ve been there eight years now. Former Redskins general manager Charley Casserly has also taught in the program for several years. Students learn about sports management and the fundamentals of finance, economics, marketing and communication. We offer some innovative minors, including sport coaching, sport communication and computer game design. We will be offering a minor in sport analytics very soon, and we’re starting a study-abroad program. This summer I’ll be teaching in Lugano, Switzerland.
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Post by EasyEd on Apr 27, 2016 13:05:10 GMT -5
Kudos to Craig. Really happy he has a good life after Hoya basketball.
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Post by DanMcQ on May 2, 2016 21:09:59 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 2, 2016 21:46:16 GMT -5
Kudos to Craig. Really happy he has a good life after Hoya basketball. Agreed. Never questioned his effort and commitment.
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2016 10:44:36 GMT -5
thesportsquotient.com/ncaa-bb/2016/4/14/three-teams-set-to-make-a-leap-in-2016-17Georgetown The common theme among these three teams is talent. But unlike UCLA and Arizona, Georgetown does not have a particularly strong recruiting class. How can Georgetown possibly bounce back, especially if they lose their leading scorer D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera? The junior trio of Isaac Copeland, LJ Peak, and Paul White should be experienced and strong enough to lead Georgetown back into the thick of the race in the Big East. As a 6’ 5” wing who can knock down threes at a forty percent clip while being a terror in transition, Peak will be the one to carry the load for the Hoyas next year. If Copeland can improve his outside shot to go along with being a terror as an off ball cutter, he’ll become a dangerous complimentary offensive piece. Paul White is the third piece who will be key, and returning from injury, will need to pick up the scoring load next year. Coach John Thompson III runs the Princeton offense very well, and the offense should flow more, and be more balanced with Smith-Rivera graduating. If these three can pick up the slack, Georgetown should be back to being a threat in the Big East.
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Post by njhoya78 on May 3, 2016 11:02:47 GMT -5
What is this "Princeton offense" about which he writes?
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Post by calhoya on May 3, 2016 11:21:29 GMT -5
It is funny that people are judging the Hoya recruiting class as not "particularly strong." Guess it depends upon how you define recruiting class. In my mind the incoming recruiting class includes Mosley, Mulmore, Pryor, White and Akoy. White and Akoy were heralded recruits coming out of high school, Mulmore is national Juco scoring leader, Mosley the New Jersey player of the year and Pryor a highly ranked 5th year graduate transfer.
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 3, 2016 12:13:29 GMT -5
It is funny that people are judging the Hoya recruiting class as not "particularly strong." Guess it depends upon how you define recruiting class. In my mind the incoming recruiting class includes Mosley, Mulmore, Pryor, White and Akoy. White and Akoy were heralded recruits coming out of high school, Mulmore is national Juco scoring leader, Mosley the New Jersey player of the year and Pryor a highly ranked 5th year graduate transfer. Appreciate the optimism, but Georgetown fans routinely overestimate this team's talent level, way back to those who were sure Jerry Nichols was an NBA prospect (yes, there were people who said that) or that Tony Bethel was a all-Big East guard. We may all see Final Four talent but to a lot of people outside 20057 this is still a 15-18 team who lost their only dependable scorer. Jagan Mosely was Player of the Year...according to the web site NJ.com. Tyus Battle, Temple Gibbs, and Lauri Markkanen can also claim POY honors from other sites. Rodney Pryor was a good player on a thin RMU team last season. If Mosely and Mulmore step up and Peak doesn't get two fouls in the first three minutes of games, he might not get as much time as some would suggest. Jon Mulmore was second nationally in scoring average, which is promising but not a measure of four-year success. Last year's top juco scorer, Teyvon Myers, averaged just 2.4 ppg at West Virginia this season. Georgetown has a lot of very good, complimentary players but there hasn't been a legitimate top 20 recruit in the mix for years--the last was Greg Monroe in 2008. Isaac Copeland was #28, Paul White was #51 and L.J. Peak was #62 in their respective classes, while Govan and Derrickson clocked in at #42 and #93, respectively. A lot of good teams have similar or more highly rated talent and the key will be in performance, not their high school publicity.
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Post by hoyaLS05 on May 3, 2016 12:37:00 GMT -5
It is funny that people are judging the Hoya recruiting class as not "particularly strong." Guess it depends upon how you define recruiting class. In my mind the incoming recruiting class includes Mosley, Mulmore, Pryor, White and Akoy. White and Akoy were heralded recruits coming out of high school, Mulmore is national Juco scoring leader, Mosley the New Jersey player of the year and Pryor a highly ranked 5th year graduate transfer. Appreciate the optimism, but Georgetown fans routinely overestimate this team's talent level, way back to those who were sure Jerry Nichols was an NBA prospect (yes, there were people who said that) or that Tony Bethel was a all-Big East guard. We may all see Final Four talent but to a lot of people outside 20057 this is still a 15-18 team who lost their only dependable scorer. Jagan Mosely was Player of the Year...according to the web site NJ.com. Tyus Battle, Temple Gibbs, and Lauri Markkanen can also claim POY honors from other sites. Rodney Pryor was a good player on a thin RMU team last season. If Mosely and Mulmore step up and Peak doesn't get two fouls in the first three minutes of games, he might not get as much time as some would suggest. Jon Mulmore was second nationally in scoring average, which is promising but not a measure of four-year success. Last year's top juco scorer, Teyvon Myers, averaged just 2.4 ppg at West Virginia this season. Georgetown has a lot of very good, complimentary players but there hasn't been a legitimate top 20 recruit in the mix for years--the last was Greg Monroe in 2008. Isaac Copeland was #28, Paul White was #51 and L.J. Peak was #62 in their respective classes, while Govan and Derrickson clocked in at #42 and #93, respectively. A lot of good teams have similar or more highly rated talent and the key will be in performance, not their high school publicity. My hope is that this vision of the future plays out like the one in which the odds of Bradley Hayes getting a waiver were "about zero." (http://hoyatalk2.proboards.com/post/686305/thread)
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 3, 2016 13:08:53 GMT -5
My hope is that this vision of the future plays out like the one in which the odds of Bradley Hayes getting a waiver were "about zero." (http://hoyatalk2.proboards.com/post/686305/thread) Thanks for the well reasoned post. The strawman is always an easy choice. And yes, Bradley Hayes did not receive a medical hardship.
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Post by Filo on May 3, 2016 14:11:08 GMT -5
It is funny that people are judging the Hoya recruiting class as not "particularly strong." Guess it depends upon how you define recruiting class. In my mind the incoming recruiting class includes Mosley, Mulmore, Pryor, White and Akoy. White and Akoy were heralded recruits coming out of high school, Mulmore is national Juco scoring leader, Mosley the New Jersey player of the year and Pryor a highly ranked 5th year graduate transfer. Appreciate the optimism, but Georgetown fans routinely overestimate this team's talent level, way back to those who were sure Jerry Nichols was an NBA prospect (yes, there were people who said that) or that Tony Bethel was a all-Big East guard. We may all see Final Four talent but to a lot of people outside 20057 this is still a 15-18 team who lost their only dependable scorer. Jagan Mosely was Player of the Year...according to the web site NJ.com. Tyus Battle, Temple Gibbs, and Lauri Markkanen can also claim POY honors from other sites. Rodney Pryor was a good player on a thin RMU team last season. If Mosely and Mulmore step up and Peak doesn't get two fouls in the first three minutes of games, he might not get as much time as some would suggest. Jon Mulmore was second nationally in scoring average, which is promising but not a measure of four-year success. Last year's top juco scorer, Teyvon Myers, averaged just 2.4 ppg at West Virginia this season. Georgetown has a lot of very good, complimentary players but there hasn't been a legitimate top 20 recruit in the mix for years--the last was Greg Monroe in 2008. Isaac Copeland was #28, Paul White was #51 and L.J. Peak was #62 in their respective classes, while Govan and Derrickson clocked in at #42 and #93, respectively. A lot of good teams have similar or more highly rated talent and the key will be in performance, not their high school publicity. Wow. So Mosely was not unanimous player of the year! So let's all damper our enthusiasm here folks! Just wow. Appreciate the pessimism, but you sure are going out of your way to be a downer. There wasn't anything inaccurate in the post you felt compelled to throw the proverbial cold water on. Actually, there wasn't even anything controversial or even hyperbolic. As for Georgetown fans routinely overestimating the team's talent level... It's not isolated to Georgetown "fans." Most "fans" do that. Kinda goes with the territory of being a "fan."
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Post by hoyaLS05 on May 3, 2016 14:52:30 GMT -5
My hope is that this vision of the future plays out like the one in which the odds of Bradley Hayes getting a waiver were "about zero." (http://hoyatalk2.proboards.com/post/686305/thread) Thanks for the well reasoned post. The strawman is always an easy choice. And yes, Bradley Hayes did not receive a medical hardship. In the quoted post, the question was posed: are the odds of a redshirt greater than zero? The answer provided was no. Pessimism turned out to be totally unwarranted. As Filo ably explains, the pessimism here seems equally misplaced. Calhoya's primary point appears to have been that, while this recruiting class may not look so impressive viewed as just Mosely, when you throw in Mulmore and Pryor as new additions, and White and Agau as guys returning from injury, the class looks a lot different. Is that not still true even if your bases for lowering expectations for each individual guy are taken for granted? There are plenty of legitimate causes for pessimism when it comes to this program, but the all-too-common desire of some around here to turn anything that is even potentially positive into a negative is one of the reasons it has become so hard to stomach what has for so long been such a valuable resource and outlet.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on May 3, 2016 14:55:23 GMT -5
Kudos to Craig. Really happy he has a good life after Hoya basketball. I really like that guy Esherick. He's a really cool dude.
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Post by drquigley on May 3, 2016 15:03:40 GMT -5
I sorta agree that we shouldn't look to the newbies to turn the program around but rather look to the returners, especially Govan/Derrickson/Copeland and maybe Campbell to significantly improve next year. LJ in my mind is a candidate for BE POY next year.
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Post by nychoya3 on May 3, 2016 15:08:53 GMT -5
POY would take a major breakout, especially depending on draft decisions from Hart and Bentil. But yeah if he improves just a bit from his overall BE season play, he'll be in the mix.
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Post by calhoya on May 3, 2016 15:55:29 GMT -5
It is funny that people are judging the Hoya recruiting class as not "particularly strong." Guess it depends upon how you define recruiting class. In my mind the incoming recruiting class includes Mosley, Mulmore, Pryor, White and Akoy. White and Akoy were heralded recruits coming out of high school, Mulmore is national Juco scoring leader, Mosley the New Jersey player of the year and Pryor a highly ranked 5th year graduate transfer. Appreciate the optimism, but Georgetown fans routinely overestimate this team's talent level, way back to those who were sure Jerry Nichols was an NBA prospect (yes, there were people who said that) or that Tony Bethel was a all-Big East guard. We may all see Final Four talent but to a lot of people outside 20057 this is still a 15-18 team who lost their only dependable scorer. Jagan Mosely was Player of the Year...according to the web site NJ.com. Tyus Battle, Temple Gibbs, and Lauri Markkanen can also claim POY honors from other sites. Rodney Pryor was a good player on a thin RMU team last season. If Mosely and Mulmore step up and Peak doesn't get two fouls in the first three minutes of games, he might not get as much time as some would suggest. Jon Mulmore was second nationally in scoring average, which is promising but not a measure of four-year success. Last year's top juco scorer, Teyvon Myers, averaged just 2.4 ppg at West Virginia this season. Georgetown has a lot of very good, complimentary players but there hasn't been a legitimate top 20 recruit in the mix for years--the last was Greg Monroe in 2008. Isaac Copeland was #28, Paul White was #51 and L.J. Peak was #62 in their respective classes, while Govan and Derrickson clocked in at #42 and #93, respectively. A lot of good teams have similar or more highly rated talent and the key will be in performance, not their high school publicity. You are absolutely right about the optimistic tenor to my post--perhaps overly so. I try not to let too much optimism seep into these posts for fear that it just sets me up for a massive disappointment next year. However, I am truly convinced that the Hoyas have a number of talented players returning and coming to the team in the fall. Now I am not defining "talent" as Top 20 player rankings because that is getting to be fairly elite. There are many teams with 3-4 star recruits who succeeded in the tournament over the years and several others, like Kentucky, UNC, Kansas, Indiana, UCLA, and Duke that have been loaded with the elite players and fallen short. I also think you are correct in stating that fans tend to overvalue their team's talent level, but there is an equally strong tendency to undervalue the talent level when the team performs poorly, as was the case this year. Talent does not guarantee production. It takes talent, coaching, chemistry, commitment to work hard to improve, maturity and a certain amount of luck and health. As I assess this past season and next, my concern is more with the other factors than with the level of talent.
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Post by lichoya68 on May 3, 2016 16:35:08 GMT -5
WE HAVE MUCH MORE TALENT NEXT YEAR yup thats it go hoyas
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