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Post by richfame on Apr 6, 2016 18:46:06 GMT -5
I thought it was worth recognizing how amazing of an accomplishment it was to win four national championships in a row. The senior class was something like 150-4 and they always played the toughest non conference schedule. IMHO Breanna Stewart is the best all around player I've ever seen in the women's game. Sure Lobo was the first and most important player at upon since she started the dynasty rolling, and Taurasi was probably the best guard and carried a lot of her teams without a great supporting cast. Maya was a fantastic player too but all around, taking into account long distance shooting, mid range game, her size, ability to block shots etc, steward is probably the best player UCONN ever had. I think we also have to hand it to Geno, some of us might think he's arrogant and cocky but the guy took a nothing program and built it to amazing heights.. Living in CT its hard not to appreciate good basketball when you see it. Watching some of the games this year the level of fundamental play and team discipline was like listening to a Mozart symphony. The last 4 years of Uconn basketball must have been what it was like to watch those great UCLA dynasty's. Hopefully all basketball fans tuned in for even a little while, if not you missed something special..
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2016 19:07:36 GMT -5
Do you agree with Shaunessy's comments about Ucon and the womans game RF??
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Post by richfame on Apr 6, 2016 19:30:37 GMT -5
Do you agree with Shaunessy's comments about Ucon and the womans game RF?? I completely disagree with DS comments. I think uconn has been great for the women's game. They certainly brought eyes to the tv and exposure to the game. I think setting a high bar is great. It's up to other programs to work harder, recruit harder and catch up. Listen next year will be open season on UCONN without the three seniors. They still will be solid with returning players and a few good freshman coming in(supposedly). They still have one of the best coaches in all of basketball on the bench. Honestly the past two years I'm not sure uconn would have lost to any non uconn team in the past 5 years. That's how good they were. I'd bet if they played 24 more games from the 24th best team all the way to the second best team they would never lose. Crazy.
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Post by hoyazeke on Apr 6, 2016 21:48:24 GMT -5
I completely agree with Shaunessy. As a person that watched both women's and men's ncaa bball. The last two years of women's bball were hard to watch because no one had a chance against UCONN. It's not Gino's fault but my mom would have won the last three c'ships if she coached that team. The first one was a factor of ND not being able to beat them 4 times in one season but with players like Breanna Stewart you only have one chance to beat them. Women's bball only produces one Breanna Stewart every 5-7 yrs and whomever gets her dominates the game. And it seems as if Gino is getting all of them. If you don't agree look back over the last 15 yrs or so. Holdsclaw (3), Taurasi(3), Parker(2 but left college early), Moore (2), Griner (1 but was completely robbed of 2) and Stewart(4). The rest of UCONN is really loaded but it you put Stewart on any decent team they would win at least 3............I'm sorry but I think it is sad that no little girls want to slay the dragon..............
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 6, 2016 22:24:11 GMT -5
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Post by richfame on Apr 7, 2016 7:28:53 GMT -5
I completely agree with Shaunessy. As a person that watched both women's and men's ncaa bball. The last two years of women's bball were hard to watch because no one had a chance against UCONN. It's not Gino's fault but my mom would have won the last three c'ships if she coached that team. The first one was a factor of ND not being able to beat them 4 times in one season but with players like Breanna Stewart you only have one chance to beat them. Women's bball only produces one Breanna Stewart every 5-7 yrs and whomever gets her dominates the game. And it seems as if Gino is getting all of them. If you don't agree look back over the last 15 yrs or so. Holdsclaw (3), Taurasi(3), Parker(2 but left college early), Moore (2), Griner (1 but was completely robbed of 2) and Stewart(4). The rest of UCONN is really loaded but it you put Stewart on any decent team they would win at least 3............I'm sorry but I think it is sad that no little girls want to slay the dragon.............. You might be not giving enough credit to Geno. What Geno did at Uconn was nothing short of amazing. Uconn women basically didn't have a program and Uconn was basically a cow town. Fast forward to today you might not be giving enough credit to Geno as a coach. You say your mom could have won those championships? I disagree, unless she's a damn good coach or something. You would be wrong if you thought of gene like Tark the shark of the 1990's.. The guy really breaks down these girls and builds them back up in better players. Stewart of course was highly recruited and coveted coming out of high school. Don't forget, Stewart struggled in her frosh season until it was playoff time. She credits Geno( not me) into making her into a player she never thought she could be..... I do agree with you that when you get that one in a generation player your going to win championships and many have gone to UCONN. I don't think thats by luck, but on the flip side nor do I think its always going to happen. Next year Uconn has solid players without the big 3 and I'm going to tell you there going to be right back in the final four. Will they go undefeated? No, will they maul there opponents? Not all of them, Will they lose a few conference games finally, yes. But watch and see what Geno does with them from day one then fast forward to tournament time.
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Post by richfame on Apr 7, 2016 7:33:05 GMT -5
DS has every right to his opinion. He made it and now he can really pipe down. For everyone that kills Geno, he stood up on that podium and said the top 3 reasons why they made this run were the 3 seniors.. I guess he could have said great coaching.. Maybe DS is a Norte Dame fan and is sick of watching Geno wipe the floor with Muffet McGraw. Either way its all good. I guess he will be very happy next year when uconn is mortal. I hope for his sake Uconn doesn't land Megan Walker or Christyn Williams. It will be another 4 years of agony for him.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 7, 2016 9:32:26 GMT -5
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Post by kchoya on Apr 7, 2016 10:46:32 GMT -5
Do you agree with Shaunessy's comments about Ucon and the womans game RF?? I completely disagree with DS comments. I think uconn has been great for the women's game. They certainly brought eyes to the tv and exposure to the game. I think setting a high bar is great. It's up to other programs to work harder, recruit harder and catch up. Listen next year will be open season on UCONN without the three seniors. They still will be solid with returning players and a few good freshman coming in(supposedly). They still have one of the best coaches in all of basketball on the bench. Honestly the past two years I'm not sure uconn would have lost to any non uconn team in the past 5 years. That's how good they were. I'd bet if they played 24 more games from the 24th best team all the way to the second best team they would never lose. Crazy. How is the women's game better now than in the 1990's or 2000's? It's certainly not more competitive. The interest that people outside of Connecticut have in the women's game is not really an interest in the sport itself, but the spectacle of UConn blowing people out. I fail to see how that is helping the sport overall.
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Post by richfame on Apr 7, 2016 14:50:54 GMT -5
I completely disagree with DS comments. I think uconn has been great for the women's game. They certainly brought eyes to the tv and exposure to the game. I think setting a high bar is great. It's up to other programs to work harder, recruit harder and catch up. Listen next year will be open season on UCONN without the three seniors. They still will be solid with returning players and a few good freshman coming in(supposedly). They still have one of the best coaches in all of basketball on the bench. Honestly the past two years I'm not sure uconn would have lost to any non uconn team in the past 5 years. That's how good they were. I'd bet if they played 24 more games from the 24th best team all the way to the second best team they would never lose. Crazy. How is the women's game better now than in the 1990's or 2000's? It's certainly not more competitive. The interest that people outside of Connecticut have in the women's game is not really an interest in the sport itself, but the spectacle of UConn blowing people out. I fail to see how that is helping the sport overall. Other programs are catching up don't fool your self. Just look at this years final four and champion ship game. There were rarely teams like Syracuse or Washington beat the big four powerhouse schools. People tuned in to see a machine play and see if there would be an upset. Look at Kentucky last year. Many people would have taken Kentucky over the field last year in the tournament! Kentucky lost! It happens. There was also talk of uconn scrimmaging a WNBA team. Having people talk about girls basketball is good period.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 7, 2016 16:40:37 GMT -5
Having people talk about girls basketball is good period. So, in essence, Shank Shaughnessy did womens hoops a big favor!
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Post by richfame on Apr 7, 2016 17:52:34 GMT -5
Having people talk about girls basketball is good period. So, in essence, Shank Shaughnessy did womens hoops a big favor! It's all good. I believe in evolution. The other programs must get better. Bottom line. It will happen.
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Post by hoyazeke on Apr 8, 2016 15:27:06 GMT -5
I completely agree with Shaunessy. As a person that watched both women's and men's ncaa bball. The last two years of women's bball were hard to watch because no one had a chance against UCONN. It's not Gino's fault but my mom would have won the last three c'ships if she coached that team. The first one was a factor of ND not being able to beat them 4 times in one season but with players like Breanna Stewart you only have one chance to beat them. Women's bball only produces one Breanna Stewart every 5-7 yrs and whomever gets her dominates the game. And it seems as if Gino is getting all of them. If you don't agree look back over the last 15 yrs or so. Holdsclaw (3), Taurasi(3), Parker(2 but left college early), Moore (2), Griner (1 but was completely robbed of 2) and Stewart(4). The rest of UCONN is really loaded but it you put Stewart on any decent team they would win at least 3............I'm sorry but I think it is sad that no little girls want to slay the dragon.............. You might be not giving enough credit to Geno. What Geno did at Uconn was nothing short of amazing. Uconn women basically didn't have a program and Uconn was basically a cow town. Fast forward to today you might not be giving enough credit to Geno as a coach. You say your mom could have won those championships? I disagree, unless she's a damn good coach or something. You would be wrong if you thought of gene like Tark the shark of the 1990's.. The guy really breaks down these girls and builds them back up in better players. Stewart of course was highly recruited and coveted coming out of high school. Don't forget, Stewart struggled in her frosh season until it was playoff time. She credits Geno( not me) into making her into a player she never thought she could be..... I do agree with you that when you get that one in a generation player your going to win championships and many have gone to UCONN. I don't think thats by luck, but on the flip side nor do I think its always going to happen. Next year Uconn has solid players without the big 3 and I'm going to tell you there going to be right back in the final four. Will they go undefeated? No, will they maul there opponents? Not all of them, Will they lose a few conference games finally, yes. But watch and see what Geno does with them from day one then fast forward to tournament time. I don't give any credit to Geno for the last three ships or the ones with Diana or Maya. Hell Geno himself said "I have Diana and you don't". And if the Samuelson girl from the Cali is the real deal, the field will have one year to beat him. The difference between UK and UCONN is that with men the difference between the #1 recruit and the #25 recruit is small and there is never a once in a lifetime recruit that is just way better than anyone else. Even if LeBron had been able to play that one year at OSU there was no guarantee that he would have won. Geno is a great recruit but he is no better coach than Tara, Maulkey or the MD coach. He just has better talent.
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Post by richfame on May 8, 2016 13:29:10 GMT -5
You might be not giving enough credit to Geno. What Geno did at Uconn was nothing short of amazing. Uconn women basically didn't have a program and Uconn was basically a cow town. Fast forward to today you might not be giving enough credit to Geno as a coach. You say your mom could have won those championships? I disagree, unless she's a damn good coach or something. You would be wrong if you thought of gene like Tark the shark of the 1990's.. The guy really breaks down these girls and builds them back up in better players. Stewart of course was highly recruited and coveted coming out of high school. Don't forget, Stewart struggled in her frosh season until it was playoff time. She credits Geno( not me) into making her into a player she never thought she could be..... I do agree with you that when you get that one in a generation player your going to win championships and many have gone to UCONN. I don't think thats by luck, but on the flip side nor do I think its always going to happen. Next year Uconn has solid players without the big 3 and I'm going to tell you there going to be right back in the final four. Will they go undefeated? No, will they maul there opponents? Not all of them, Will they lose a few conference games finally, yes. But watch and see what Geno does with them from day one then fast forward to tournament time. I don't give any credit to Geno for the last three ships or the ones with Diana or Maya. Hell Geno himself said "I have Diana and you don't". And if the Samuelson girl from the Cali is the real deal, the field will have one year to beat him. The difference between UK and UCONN is that with men the difference between the #1 recruit and the #25 recruit is small and there is never a once in a lifetime recruit that is just way better than anyone else. Even if LeBron had been able to play that one year at OSU there was no guarantee that he would have won. Geno is a great recruit but he is no better coach than Tara, Maulkey or the MD coach. He just has better talent. I guess we will have to agree to disagree.
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Post by kchoya on May 8, 2016 15:39:53 GMT -5
I don't give any credit to Geno for the last three ships or the ones with Diana or Maya. Hell Geno himself said "I have Diana and you don't". And if the Samuelson girl from the Cali is the real deal, the field will have one year to beat him. The difference between UK and UCONN is that with men the difference between the #1 recruit and the #25 recruit is small and there is never a once in a lifetime recruit that is just way better than anyone else. Even if LeBron had been able to play that one year at OSU there was no guarantee that he would have won. Geno is a great recruit but he is no better coach than Tara, Maulkey or the MD coach. He just has better talent. I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Wow, it took you that long to come up with that response Costanza?
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Post by hoyarooter on May 9, 2016 18:02:00 GMT -5
I guess we will have to agree to disagree. Wow, it took you that long to come up with that response Costanza? Maybe some people don't spend hours a day on this board like the rest of us.
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Post by richfame on May 9, 2016 18:40:38 GMT -5
Wow, it took you that long to come up with that response Costanza? Maybe some people don't spend hours a day on this board like the rest of us. Yeah- A lot on my plate and its the off season here. Nothing to really discuss further, He thinks Geno is over rated and I do not. Time to move on and worry about more important things like our mens team turning it around.
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Post by richfame on Jan 12, 2017 22:30:10 GMT -5
I know we suppose to hate everything UCONN but we should recognize the amazing 90 (probably plus) game winning streak the lady huskies are in the middle of right now.
I'm not here to say it's better than uclas streak or anything like that but it is an amazing feat. Even though this years team is not suppose to be there most talented they seem to have tremendous heart with a top coach as there constant.
Tip of my hat to u girls.
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Post by richfame on Feb 14, 2017 7:04:13 GMT -5
Congrats to 100 wins in a row, it's a mind boggling accomplishment.
I'm not sure this streak will ever be broken. I wish we had a Geno like coach here.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Feb 14, 2017 9:43:55 GMT -5
Congrats to 100 wins in a row, it's a mind boggling accomplishment. I'm not sure this streak will ever be broken. I wish we had a Geno like coach here. Geno Auriemma is this era's John Wooden. Even putting aside 11 national titles or a winning percentage of .880, he gets the most out of his team each and every year, and not every UConn team is automatically the best team every year, 2017 being a prime example. In 27 years, he has 21 conference titles (18 Big East, three AAC). Since 1993, UConn has not missed at least the round of 16 (yes, playing in Hartford or Storrs helps) and has now made the Final Four nine consecutive years. In that same period, no men's team has been to more than three.
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