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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 1, 2016 23:29:05 GMT -5
Updated on 12/24/15. Pretty surprised to see him so high.
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Post by rockhoya on Jan 2, 2016 11:21:08 GMT -5
Updated on 12/24/15. Pretty surprised to see him so high. Same. Even though that site is one of the less reliable, there must've been some chatter going around to have him make that jump in their update. Let's hope that it's a harbinger of things to come |
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Post by drquigley on Jan 2, 2016 11:34:02 GMT -5
Let's hope he doesn't leave after this year!
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Post by tashoya on Jan 2, 2016 12:14:27 GMT -5
I believe he was 16 on that site a month ago. Last I checked, that was the only site listing him in the first two rounds and, at the time, NBADraft.net had him ranked well ahead of Ellenson. I'm not saying he's not a first rounder when he decides to leave but I don't think he's there yet. I think he's also hurting his stock by focusing too much on jump shooting. It'd be different if he was really good defensively or was a plus rebounder. He's got the ability to expand his game. Granted, many guys get drafted on potential but I feel like, at a minimum, Isaac has to put on 15 pounds of muscle and tighten up his ballhandling to give himself a good chance at the next level.
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Post by SDHoya on Jan 2, 2016 12:54:24 GMT -5
6'10" guard-forward----draft rating is all about potential. We all what Ike can be, apparently the scouts see it too...
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Post by dense on Jan 2, 2016 13:00:46 GMT -5
I believe he was 16 on that site a month ago. Last I checked, that was the only site listing him in the first two rounds and, at the time, NBADraft.net had him ranked well ahead of Ellenson. I'm not saying he's not a first rounder when he decides to leave but I don't think he's there yet. I think he's also hurting his stock by focusing too much on jump shooting. It'd be different if he was really good defensively or was a plus rebounder. He's got the ability to expand his game. Granted, many guys get drafted on potential but I feel like, at a minimum, Isaac has to put on 15 pounds of muscle and tighten up his ballhandling to give himself a good chance at the next level. Most teams in the NBA want a 3 and D guy. He plays man well enough that he isn't a liability. Is uber athletic. He checks all the boxes. I'm sure they are projecting him into a Ariza role. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jan 2, 2016 13:03:52 GMT -5
Good lord, why are people acting like NBAdraft.net knows anything?
Ike has NBA potential. He hasn't played anywhere like it to date. If he plays like he did the first few games, he has a shot at lottery. Otherwise, no. This isn't rocket science, people, and you should be able to figure out where someone stands better than NBAdraft.net on your own.
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Post by 95hoya on Jan 2, 2016 13:32:23 GMT -5
Might as well publish my own mock draft and link it here. That site gets nothing from scouts.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Jan 2, 2016 14:09:09 GMT -5
I am not asking this sarcastically...what are the best sites? Beyond like a Chad Ford, what are the best sources for mock drafts and current player rankings?
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Post by 95hoya on Jan 2, 2016 14:20:15 GMT -5
I am not asking this sarcastically...what are the best sites? Beyond like a Chad Ford, what are the best sources for mock drafts and current player rankings? Draft Xpress has always been good. They have good scouting reports and do a solid job of projecting players to the pro game. |
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Post by wnyhoya on Jan 2, 2016 19:46:02 GMT -5
He has looked lost for long stretches the last two games. So much talent and athleticism, but he's not great attacking the basket. Very good set shooter and one dribble pull-up shooter when in rhythm. However, he's gotta cut down on his TO's. Way too many head scratching passes that are lazy.
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Post by goyahoya69 on Jan 2, 2016 19:57:56 GMT -5
Love copeland and peak, but I can't see either of them being first rounders after this year. And if that's the case, I would hope they would come back. But I also hope LJ does what's best for both he and his new family.
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Post by sleepy on Jan 2, 2016 20:22:47 GMT -5
Yea, no.
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 2, 2016 21:09:30 GMT -5
I am not asking this sarcastically...what are the best sites? Beyond like a Chad Ford, what are the best sources for mock drafts and current player rankings? Draft Xpress has always been good. They have good scouting reports and do a solid job of projecting players to the pro game. Draft express has a habit of editing their write ups on players after the fact when they are wrong. |
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Post by tashoya on Jan 2, 2016 21:24:50 GMT -5
Draft Xpress has always been good. They have good scouting reports and do a solid job of projecting players to the pro game. Draft express has a habit of editing their write ups on players after the fact when they are wrong. I should probably do the same with a lot of my posts on HoyaTalk. |
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 2, 2016 21:29:10 GMT -5
Draft Xpress has always been good. They have good scouting reports and do a solid job of projecting players to the pro game. Draft express has a habit of editing their write ups on players after the fact when they are wrong. I believe Chad Ford has been caught doing the same. |
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Post by tashoya on Jan 2, 2016 22:01:45 GMT -5
Draft express has a habit of editing their write ups on players after the fact when they are wrong. I believe Chad Ford has been caught doing the same. Wouldn't you expect that from a guy named Chad? If he changed his name to Chadwick's, I'd probably feel differently. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 22:24:53 GMT -5
I am not asking this sarcastically...what are the best sites? Beyond like a Chad Ford, what are the best sources for mock drafts and current player rankings? Draft Xpress has always been good. They have good scouting reports and do a solid job of projecting players to the pro game. Lol, really? Agree with other posters on the change in write-ups after the fact. Givony is a hack. |
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Post by hoyaboya on Jan 3, 2016 14:18:23 GMT -5
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Post by professorhoya on Jan 3, 2016 15:04:59 GMT -5
I believe he was 16 on that site a month ago. Last I checked, that was the only site listing him in the first two rounds and, at the time, NBADraft.net had him ranked well ahead of Ellenson. I'm not saying he's not a first rounder when he decides to leave but I don't think he's there yet. I think he's also hurting his stock by focusing too much on jump shooting. It'd be different if he was really good defensively or was a plus rebounder. He's got the ability to expand his game. Granted, many guys get drafted on potential but I feel like, at a minimum, Isaac has to put on 15 pounds of muscle and tighten up his ballhandling to give himself a good chance at the next level. Most teams in the NBA want a 3 and D guy. He plays man well enough that he isn't a liability. Is uber athletic. He checks all the boxes. I'm sure they are projecting him into a Ariza role. His wingspan is considered subpar for an NBA player. 6-9 in shoes with a 6-9 wingspan. So doesn't fit all the measureables NBA teams are looking for. *LJ Peak at 6-4.5 has a longer winspan at 6-9.5 than Copeland. |
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