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Post by njhoya78 on Dec 20, 2015 14:05:20 GMT -5
Had a little time, so I went back through the play-by-plays on guhoyas.com and computed plus/minus stats for each player in each game played to date. I'll update these numbers as the season progresses.
Redford 82 at GU 80 (double overtime): Campbell +3, Cameron +2, Hayes +1, Copeland even, Derrickson -4, Johnson -4, Smith-Rivera -4, Govan -8, Peak -11, Mourning DNP, White DNP, Williams DNP.
GU 71 at Maryland 75: Peak +12, Smith-Rivera +8, Hayes +3, Derrickson +2, Copeland -1, Mourning -1, Williams -3, Cameron -4, Govan -4, Campbell -13, Johnson -16, White DNP.
GU 71 vs. Wisconsin 61 at New York NY: Smith-Rivera +12, Cameron +8, Copeland +8, Govan +6, Johnson +5, Peak +5, Derrickson +4, Hayes +4, Mourning even, Williams -2, Campbell DNP, White DNP.
GU 84 vs. Duke 86 at New York NY: Govan +22, Peak +11, Cameron +7, Copeland +2, Johnson +2, Williams -6, Smith-Rivera -8, Derrickson -12, Mourning -13, Hayes -14, Campbell DNP, White DNP.
Bryant 47 at GU 77: Smith-Rivera +28, Copeland +23, Derrickson +18, Hayes +18, Peak +15, Johnson +14, Cameron +13, Govan +7, Williams +4, White +1, Mourning even, Campbell DNP.
Maryland-Eastern Shore 49 at GU 68: Peak +25, Smith-Rivera +17, Cameron +13, Hayes +11, Campbell +10, Govan +8, Derrickson +5, Copeland +2, Mourning +1, White +1, Johnson even, Williams even.
Syracuse 72 at GU 79: Peak +17, Copeland +8, Smith-Rivera +7, Govan +5, Cameron +4, Hayes +4, Derrickson +3, White +1, Johnson -3, Campbell -9, Mourning DNP, Williams DNP.
Brown 57 at GU 74: Copeland +22, Campbell +17, Smith-Rivera +16, Derrickson +14, Hayes +12, Peak +6, Mourning +4, Cameron +3, Govan +1, Johnson -1, Williams -4, White -5.
North Carolina-Wilmington 82 at GU 87: Derrickson +12, Smith-Rivera +7, Cameron +5, Govan +4, Johnson +2, Campbell even, Peak even, Copeland -1, Hayes -1, White -3, Mourning DNP, Williams DNP.
Monmouth 83 at GU 68: Govan +2, Williams +1, Campbell even, Johnson -2, Derrickson -3, Smith-Rivera -6, Copeland -7, Peak -11, Cameron -14, Hayes -15, Mourning DNP, White DNP.
North Carolina-Asheville 79 at GU 73: Derrickson +10, Hayes +7, Smith-Rivera +4, White -3, Johnson -5, Peak -5, Cameron -6, Campbell -7, Copeland -9, Govan -13, Mourning DNP, Williams DNP.
OVERALL
Smith-Rivera +84, Peak +64, Copeland +47, Derrickson +42, Cameron +31, Govan +30, Hayes +30, Campbell +1, Johnson -8, Mourning -9, White -10, Williams -10.
I'll leave the analysis to the board. "Discuss amongst yourselves."
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Post by tashoya on Dec 20, 2015 20:47:52 GMT -5
It would likely be helpful to break this out in terms of team rankings too. Things that stand out at a glance are Peak's foul issues are really hurting us and Copeland needs to be better against the bigger opponents. Then again, we've had so many lineups that it's difficult to figure out how significant these numbers are. Interesting that in the UNCA game, DSR was a +4 and Kaleb was a -5. That doesn't tell the story of the game I watched at all.
Most importantly, thank you for compiling and aggregating the numbers. I appreciate all that you do for the board. Many thanks.
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Post by GUMBA on Dec 21, 2015 11:25:17 GMT -5
Agree. Kaleb looked like our best player against Ashville. Hustled, scored, disrupted their offense by fighting through screens. Must have had a lot if turnovers. DSR had only 4 in the first half and looked lethargic.
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Post by njhoya78 on Dec 21, 2015 11:56:58 GMT -5
One thing to remember: plus/minus is simply a calculation of who is on the court when points are scored, for and against. It does not take into account situational fouling, offense/defense substitutions in the closing minutes of games, or turnovers. Therefore, it is admittedly inexact.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Dec 21, 2015 14:57:36 GMT -5
NJ, you have much too much time on your hands.  Thanks for the breakdown. |
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Post by njhoya78 on Dec 22, 2015 22:16:58 GMT -5
GU 62 at Charlotte 59: Cameron +11, Hayes +5, Smith-Rivera +4, Peak +1, Johnson even, Campbell -1, Derrickson -1, Govan -1, Mourning -1, Williams -1, White -2, Copeland -3.
OVERALL THROUGH CHARLOTTE GAME
Smith-Rivera +88, Peak +65, Copeland +44, Cameron +43, Derrickson +41, Hayes +35, Govan +29, Campbell even, Johnson -8, Mourning -10, Williams -11, White -12.
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Post by professorhoya on Dec 23, 2015 1:22:47 GMT -5
GU 62 at Charlotte 59: Cameron +11, Hayes +5, Smith-Rivera +4, Peak +1, Johnson even, Campbell -1, Derrickson -1, Govan -1, Mourning -1, Williams -1, White -2, Copeland -3. OVERALL THROUGH CHARLOTTE GAME Smith-Rivera +88, Peak +65, Copeland +44, Cameron +43, Derrickson +41, Hayes +35, Govan +29, Campbell even, Johnson -8, Mourning -10, Williams -11, White -12. I guess that's why Cameron's getting a lot of time. I still think +\- is flawed because if you are in with other garbage time players then collectively it's going to be bad. I also don't like having Cameron dsr Hayes in the same unit because athletically you have 3 average to below average athletes and that can cause problems defensively especially with all the switching which leads to wide open 3s and drives for layup a because of the new rules. |
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Post by vv83 on Dec 23, 2015 18:09:10 GMT -5
GU 62 at Charlotte 59: Cameron +11, Hayes +5, Smith-Rivera +4, Peak +1, Johnson even, Campbell -1, Derrickson -1, Govan -1, Mourning -1, Williams -1, White -2, Copeland -3. OVERALL THROUGH CHARLOTTE GAME Smith-Rivera +88, Peak +65, Copeland +44, Cameron +43, Derrickson +41, Hayes +35, Govan +29, Campbell even, Johnson -8, Mourning -10, Williams -11, White -12. I guess that's why Cameron's getting a lot of time. I still think +\- is flawed because if you are in with other garbage time players then collectively it's going to be bad. I also don't like having Cameron dsr Hayes in the same unit because athletically you have 3 average to below average athletes and that can cause problems defensively especially with all the switching which leads to wide open 3s and drives for layup a because of the new rules. Right now, pretty much every lineup we run out there is having problems defensively! |
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Post by hoyainla on Dec 23, 2015 19:12:58 GMT -5
From taking a quick look it appears we go as Peak goes. Obviously there is more to it but look at his +- in the games we played well vs the ones we didn't and that doesn't necessarily mean won or lost.
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Post by njhoya78 on Dec 30, 2015 23:51:59 GMT -5
GU 70 at DePaul 58: Copeland +20, Smith-Rivera +18, Hayes +13, Peak +11, Campbell +4, Derrickson +3, Govan +3, Cameron +2, Johnson even, Mourning -2, Williams -2, White DNP.
OVERALL THROUGH DePAUL GAME
Smith-Rivera +106, Peak +76, Copeland +64, Hayes +48, Cameron +45, Derrickson +44, Govan +32, Campbell +4, Johnson -8, Mourning -12, White -12, Williams -13.
BIG EAST THROUGH DePAUL GAME
Copeland +20, Smith-Rivera +18, Hayes +13, Peak +11, Campbell +4, Derrickson +3, Govan +3, Cameron +2, Johnson even, Mourning -2, Williams -2.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Dec 31, 2015 0:23:22 GMT -5
Suprised Campbell was plus 4 tonight! Interesting that tonight made him a +4 for the season so far. Byproduct of starting tonight. Tre has been the biggest disappointment of any of the Hoyas that are getting playing time. His game has really regressed.
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Post by njhoya78 on Jan 2, 2016 20:02:47 GMT -5
Marquette 70 at GU 80: Derrickson +14, Hayes +8, Cameron +7, Peak +6, Campbell +5, Smith-Rivera +5, Johnson +3, Copeland +2, Govan +1, Mourning DNP, White DNP, Williams DNP.
OVERALL THROUGH MARQUETTE GAME
Smith-Rivera +111, Peak +82, Copeland +66, Derrickson +58, Hayes +56, Cameron +52, Govan +33, Campbell +9, Johnson -5, Mourning -12, White -12, Williams -13.
BIG EAST THROUGH MARQUETTE GAME
Smith-Rivera +23, Copeland +22, Hayes +21, Derrickson +17, Peak +17, Cameron +9, Campbell +9, Govan +4, Johnson +3, Mourning -2, Williams -2.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 2, 2016 20:04:46 GMT -5
Sad to see a DNP for Mourning tonight but not much you can do when Govan and Derrickson are playing so well (and Hayes was solid)
Thanks nj!
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Post by GUJook97 on Jan 5, 2016 23:46:14 GMT -5
Im sure you'll have it all post haste, but I read Reggie was -21 in 15 minutes. Unreal.
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Post by njhoya78 on Jan 5, 2016 23:56:41 GMT -5
Im sure you'll have it all post haste, but I read Reggie was -21 in 15 minutes. Unreal. Even worse than you thought. Posting momentarily. |
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Post by njhoya78 on Jan 6, 2016 0:02:42 GMT -5
GU 66 at Creighton 79: Derrickson +9, Campbell +2, Williams even, Johnson -3, Hayes -6, Govan -7, Copeland -9, Smith-Rivera -11, Peak -14, Cameron -26, Mourning DNP, White DNP.
OVERALL THROUGH CREIGHTON GAME
Smith-Rivera +95, Peak +62, Copeland +53, Derrickson +53, Hayes +42, Govan +26, Cameron +19, Campbell +6, Johnson -11, Mourning -12, White -12, Williams -13.
BIG EAST THROUGH CREIGHTON GAME
Derrickson +12, Copeland +11, Smith-Rivera +7, Hayes +7, Campbell +6, Mourning -2, Williams -2, Johnson -3, Peak -3, Govan -4, Cameron -24.
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Post by njhoya78 on Jan 9, 2016 14:37:39 GMT -5
DePaul 63 at GU 74: Govan +21, Peak +19, Smith-Rivera +11, Cameron +9, Copeland +8, Derrickson +1, Campbell -2, Johnson -2, Mourning -2, Hayes -8, White DNP, Williams DNP.
OVERALL THROUGH SECOND DePAUL GAME
Smith-Rivera +106, Peak +81, Copeland +62, Derrickson +54, Govan +47, Hayes +34, Cameron +27, Campbell +4, White -12, Johnson -13, Williams -13, Mourning -14.
BIG EAST THROUGH SECOND DePAUL GAME
Copeland +19, Smith-Rivera +18, Govan +17, Peak +16, Derrickson +13, Campbell +4, Hayes -1, Williams -2, Mourning -4, Johnson -5, Cameron -15.
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Post by TrueHoyaBlue on Jan 9, 2016 15:17:55 GMT -5
It's gonna take a while for Reggie's plus/minus to recover from that Creighton game.
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Post by njhoya78 on Jan 13, 2016 21:08:32 GMT -5
GU 93 at St. John's 73: Smith-Rivera +33, Cameron +24, Copeland +17, Campbell +10, Hayes +10, Govan +5, Peak +1, Mourning -2, Johnson -3, Williams -6, Derrickson DNP, White DNP.
OVERALL THROUGH ST. JOHN'S GAME
Smith-Rivera +139, Peak +82, Copeland +79, Derrickson +54, Cameron +53, Govan +52, Hayes +44, Campbell +14, White -12, Johnson -16, Mourning -16, Williams -19.
BIG EAST THROUGH ST. JOHN'S GAME
Smith-Rivera +51, Copeland +36, Govan +22, Peak +17, Campbell +14, Derrickson +13, Cameron +9, Hayes +9, Mourning -6, Williams -8, Johnson -8.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jan 13, 2016 21:38:57 GMT -5
It's gonna take a while for Reggie's plus/minus to recover from that Creighton game. Or one night!  Great job by Reggie tonight, didn't force much especially early until he got into a groove. |
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Thanks for the breakdown.
Great job by Reggie tonight, didn't force much especially early until he got into a groove.