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Post by ColumbiaHeightsHoya on Feb 9, 2016 9:31:50 GMT -5
That game was a snoozer and we had about 12 students there. Makes sense for a Monday night post SB game against the worst team in the Big East but all I could see is this kid keep looking at some booklet on Gtown he had in his hands during the game. Where would this guy fit in? He would add depth but would he really be better next year then Mourning, Agau & Derrickson in the 4/5 back-up slot? Asking because I haven't seen him play.
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Post by dense on Feb 9, 2016 13:59:09 GMT -5
That game was a snoozer and we had about 12 students there. Makes sense for a Monday night post SB game against the worst team in the Big East but all I could see is this kid keep looking at some booklet on Gtown he had in his hands during the game. Where would this guy fit in? He would add depth but would he really be better next year then Mourning, Agau & Derrickson in the 4/5 back-up slot? Asking because I haven't seen him play. He is more in the mold of a Big who is athletic and coordinated that he has perimeter skills then just a big who can shoot. Yes he would be a factor if he came here and probably would be the back up 5 and Mourning would be the odd man out.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Feb 9, 2016 15:17:21 GMT -5
That game was a snoozer and we had about 12 students there. Makes sense for a Monday night post SB game against the worst team in the Big East but all I could see is this kid keep looking at some booklet on Gtown he had in his hands during the game. Where would this guy fit in? He would add depth but would he really be better next year then Mourning, Agau & Derrickson in the 4/5 back-up slot? Asking because I haven't seen him play. He is more in the mold of a Big who is athletic and coordinated that he has perimeter skills then just a big who can shoot. Yes he would be a factor if he came here and probably would be the back up 5 and Mourning would be the odd man out. Couldn't disagree with you more Dense. Mourning a junior would absolutely play a head of Taurean Thompson as a freshman. From a physicality stand point and understanding of what JT3 and staff expect. If you look at their games, Mourning and Thompson are very similar offensively. I think Thompson will have work to do to be ready physically. Neither are really consistent low post scores. Mourning, because of a crowded roster in the front court has not played much at the 4 this year which is probably his natural position. The 4 is probably Taurean Thompson natural position as well. That position is only going to be more of a log jam with Akoy hopefully being healthy next season. Remember JT3 has raved about Mourning in this past off season and his teammates have talked about his work ethic. Not saying that Taurean Thompson doesn't work hard but since their games have a lot of similarities, I just don't see anyway that Thompson play's ahead of Mourning because Mourning is and will be more experienced, physically developed and has showed he can contribute right now. Doesn't matter because I don't think Thompson's committing to Georgetown anyways.
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Post by goyahoya69 on Feb 9, 2016 16:20:20 GMT -5
the fact that this kid is even visiting amidst a lackluster season (thus far) is a testament to the effort the staff is putting in and also to the probable idea that this kid watches our games. a 4 star forward this late in recruiting is getting plenty of attention from programs all over the country, and yet he somehow wanted to come visit us unofficially. that's nice.
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Post by dense on Feb 10, 2016 0:52:58 GMT -5
He is more in the mold of a Big who is athletic and coordinated that he has perimeter skills then just a big who can shoot. Yes he would be a factor if he came here and probably would be the back up 5 and Mourning would be the odd man out. Couldn't disagree with you more Dense. Mourning a junior would absolutely play a head of Taurean Thompson as a freshman. From a physicality stand point and understanding of what JT3 and staff expect. If you look at their games, Mourning and Thompson are very similar offensively. I think Thompson will have work to do to be ready physically. Neither are really consistent low post scores. Mourning, because of a crowded roster in the front court has not played much at the 4 this year which is probably his natural position. The 4 is probably Taurean Thompson natural position as well. That position is only going to be more of a log jam with Akoy hopefully being healthy next season. Remember JT3 has raved about Mourning in this past off season and his teammates have talked about his work ethic. Not saying that Taurean Thompson doesn't work hard but since their games have a lot of similarities, I just don't see anyway that Thompson play's ahead of Mourning because Mourning is and will be more experienced, physically developed and has showed he can contribute right now. Doesn't matter because I don't think Thompson's committing to Georgetown anyways. The last part is true. I dont think he is coming here either but he would play in front of Mourning. Thompson has more spring than Trey and is a more of a fluid player.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Feb 10, 2016 2:41:04 GMT -5
Couldn't disagree with you more Dense. Mourning a junior would absolutely play a head of Taurean Thompson as a freshman. From a physicality stand point and understanding of what JT3 and staff expect. If you look at their games, Mourning and Thompson are very similar offensively. I think Thompson will have work to do to be ready physically. Neither are really consistent low post scores. Mourning, because of a crowded roster in the front court has not played much at the 4 this year which is probably his natural position. The 4 is probably Taurean Thompson natural position as well. That position is only going to be more of a log jam with Akoy hopefully being healthy next season. Remember JT3 has raved about Mourning in this past off season and his teammates have talked about his work ethic. Not saying that Taurean Thompson doesn't work hard but since their games have a lot of similarities, I just don't see anyway that Thompson play's ahead of Mourning because Mourning is and will be more experienced, physically developed and has showed he can contribute right now. Doesn't matter because I don't think Thompson's committing to Georgetown anyways. The last part is true. I dont think he is coming here either but he would play in front of Mourning. Thompson has more spring than Trey and is a more of a fluid player. Yes because "spring" is an asset that JT3 prioritizes in his recruits. While Thompson has upside, he is still very much a long term prospect. He needs to get A LOT STRONGER, he has just started developing a back to the basket game when he got to Brewster Academy this season, and by no means is he a pogo stick. There is no chance he would play over a physically developed Junior in Trey Mourning. Their games are extremely similar as both are primarily face up post who like to take mid range jumpers. So Trey who has good experience within the offence/defense and 30 pounds of strength will easily play over Thompson. But maybe we will get to see them play against each other as I think Thompson will end up at Providence. The precedent has been set, Hayes started over Govan primarily because Govan a 270 pound post wasn't ready to handle the physicality of high major college basketball. So there's no way a 200 pound post player in Thompson will be ready to play over Trey. Here is scout.com evaluation of Taurean Thompson: Evaluation " Thompson is a player whose best basketball is clearly ahead of him. He has long arms, runs the floor extremely well, and also can step out and make a 15 foot jumper. He absolutely has to get stronger, but that should come in college. Also he is limited in terms of his basketball experience, so he has some rawness to his game, but the upside is through the roof."
This is actually a waist of time because to my knowledge, JT3 and staff haven't even offered yet and I doubt they will. If they were going to, I think they would have already. Taurean Thompson has only been here on not 1 but 2 unofficial visits already, stayed for a home game, the staff has watched him play at least close to a handful of reported times at Brewster this year, and no announcement of an offer.
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Post by dense on Feb 10, 2016 6:45:55 GMT -5
The last part is true. I dont think he is coming here either but he would play in front of Mourning. Thompson has more spring than Trey and is a more of a fluid player. Yes because "spring" is an asset that JT3 prioritizes in his recruits. While Thompson has upside, he is still very much a long term prospect. He needs to get A LOT STRONGER, he has just started developing a back to the basket game when he got to Brewster Academy this season, and by no means is he a pogo stick. There is no chance he would play over a physically developed Junior in Trey Mourning. Their games are extremely similar as both are primarily face up post who like to take mid range jumpers. So Trey who has good experience within the offence/defense and 30 pounds of strength will easily play over Thompson. But maybe we will get to see them play against each other as I think Thompson will end up at Providence. The precedent has been set, Hayes started over Govan primarily because Govan a 270 pound post wasn't ready to handle the physicality of high major college basketball. So there's no way a 200 pound post player in Thompson will be ready to play over Trey. Here is scout.com evaluation of Taurean Thompson: Evaluation " Thompson is a player whose best basketball is clearly ahead of him. He has long arms, runs the floor extremely well, and also can step out and make a 15 foot jumper. He absolutely has to get stronger, but that should come in college. Also he is limited in terms of his basketball experience, so he has some rawness to his game, but the upside is through the roof."
This is actually a waist of time because to my knowledge, JT3 and staff haven't even offered yet and I doubt they will. If they were going to, I think they would have already. Taurean Thompson has only been here on not 1 but 2 unofficial visits already, stayed for a home game, the staff has watched him play at least close to a handful of reported times at Brewster this year, and no announcement of an offer. I dont think a precendent has been set at all. I think you think that but Hayes started over Govan because he was better at that point and also knows the system and is a captain. At this point of the season Hayes is still the better player. The better player always plays at Georgetown under JT3. He will play a freshman over a upperclassmen if he thinks it helps the team. I think he is a better player than him at this point. Trey Mourning has no basket to the basket game either with all this strength. No knock on him just dont see what you see but like I said I doubt he comes here when other destinations have more time available.
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Post by daymondmyles on Feb 10, 2016 13:28:41 GMT -5
From what I understand, he a very good rebounder and shot blocker. I mean, those are 2 of our biggest needs right there. I think he's averaging 10.6 rebounds a game and 5.7 blocks a game. If he can actually rebound outside his area, I'd sign him up immediately.
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Post by hoyaboya on Feb 10, 2016 13:38:40 GMT -5
The best player for Wolfeboro (N.H.) Brewster Academy in their win over Vermont Academy was 2016 available prospect Taurean Thompson. Thompson scored 23 points on 7-for-14 shooting and added a game high 16 rebounds. At 6-foot-9, Thompson is mobile and athletic power forward. He ran the floor well, finished off plays inside and made multiple mid-range jumpers. There’s a lot of value in his ability to shoot, as he has good shot mechanics and is confident in his shot. Thomas is full of upside and when he consistently plays hard, like he did Sunday, is tough to contain. www.scout.com/college/basketball/recruiting/story/1633587-hoop-hall-day-two-top-performers
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 10, 2016 22:07:12 GMT -5
We just offered.
This is the type of kid we want and need. Defensively he's got a lot of the traits that Vernon Maclin and Hopkins had although I would say he may be quicker off his feet and a better natural shot blocker than both. He also has a better than average mid range game which you know would improve while at Georgetown.
This is another case where we would have to come from behind to land this kid....but stranger things have happened. The fit between player and school is good.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 22:26:37 GMT -5
Don't see how this works unless he's ready to sit for a year or two.
Or maybe one or two of our 7 returning 4/5s aren't gonna be here.
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Feb 11, 2016 6:40:08 GMT -5
From what I understand, he a very good rebounder and shot blocker. I mean, those are 2 of our biggest needs right there. I think he's averaging 10.6 rebounds a game and 5.7 blocks a game. If he can actually rebound outside his area, I'd sign him up immediately. +1000
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Post by RBHoya on Feb 11, 2016 18:15:45 GMT -5
I like this offer a lot and think Thompson is a little undersold in this thread. He really seems to meet all the checkboxes I'm looking for in a modern big: long, athletic, rebounds well, blocks shots and can shoot. If he's got enough court vision and basketball IQ to make good decisions with the ball at the top of the key, that's essentially the total package. I pretty firmly believe that the centers of tomorrow are the "Stretch 4s" of recent years--the game is just evolving to a place where your 5 man needs to be highly skilled in addition to your perimeter players. The "pace and space"-ization of the game. So despite some members of Hoyatalk repeatedly insisting that anyone under 6'11 "belongs at the Power Forward", I think guys whho are 6'8 or 6'9 but strong, athletic and skilled are the future of the center position. The days of plodding 7 footers playing on the low blocks with their backs to the basket are dying. The rules
I saw Casual drew a comparison to Mikael Hopkins, and I can see that a little. Honestly Hopkins was great for us defensively. Today you need a center that is mobile and athletic enough to switch on to guards defensively--unless maybe you have a monster rim-protector, this is a must from the center position. And Hop did that well for us, and ability to switch everything was crucial to our success the last time we won the league. Honestly if Mikael had a little bit better natural instincts/bball IQ he would have been a total stud for us, and if he had better hands/touch, he would have been a 1st round pick. In Thompson I see potential to be good at the same things Hop was, but I also see the ingredients to be a much better offensive player. I'm sure there are holes, but there would be a lot to work with.
I know some people may not see the need, but honestly both Agau (post-injury) and Mourning are pretty unproven, and he'd be a couple of years behind those guys anyhow. And overall, on a team that's underachieving like this year's, I'm in favor of just bringing in the best players we can possibly get. The minutes will work themselves out. Plus I like the fact that if we lock up a big in 2016 we don't really need another in 2017, enabling us to focus on landing a high quality point guard (Lykes?) and one of the numerous talented combo-forwards we're recruiting.
No idea what our odds are but especially this late in the game, Thompson would be quite a coup. Best case scenario on the recruiting trail in the near future would be Thompson and a grad-transfer pure point guard, IMO.
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Post by wnyhoya on Feb 11, 2016 21:06:02 GMT -5
Problem how I see it is if we get Thompson this cycle then we only have one scholarship opening up after next year and we already have Foster on board. Lykes, Simms, JJJr, and Pugh seem to all be priorities for the staff and I'm high on them all as well. Probably moreso than Thompson. However, I will admit it is unlikely that both Copeland and Peak will be here for their senior years. Yet it could happen. So do we go with the bird in the hand theory?
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Post by hoyazeke on Feb 11, 2016 23:04:33 GMT -5
I really don't Ike or LJ being here after next season. The question that I have is does the TT offer mean that the staff isn't feeling the love from JJ?
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Post by dense on Feb 11, 2016 23:46:27 GMT -5
I really don't Ike or LJ being here after next season. The question that I have is does the TT offer mean that the staff isn't feeling the love from JJ? Could just mean they know someone is bolting.
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