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Post by hilltopper2000 on Oct 7, 2015 22:05:52 GMT -5
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Post by RusskyHoya on Oct 8, 2015 8:24:09 GMT -5
Yea, I'm not a big fan of the hospital expansion, but I understand MedStar's thinking. To me, it's a big opportunity cost, given the real estate. At this point, I just hope they really take the time to design and integrate it well and make the north entrance to campus much better than the eyesore and pedestrian obstacle course it currently is.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Oct 16, 2015 10:32:59 GMT -5
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 16, 2015 10:42:02 GMT -5
For a building to house the number of beds they are projecting, it will be a concrete and glass fortress facing Reservoir Road with all the "green space" of the Leavey espalanade.
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Post by kchoya on Oct 16, 2015 11:13:53 GMT -5
For a building to house the number of beds they are projecting, it will be a concrete and glass fortress facing Reservoir Road with all the "green space" of the Leavey espalanade. To be honest, is the view of the hospital/campus from Reservoir really that important?
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Post by RusskyHoya on Oct 16, 2015 11:59:58 GMT -5
For a building to house the number of beds they are projecting, it will be a concrete and glass fortress facing Reservoir Road with all the "green space" of the Leavey espalanade. To be honest, is the view of the hospital/campus from Reservoir really that important? I mean, I like nice views, but to me what's much more important is functionality, walkability, and a design that communicates and enhances a sense of community. The current assemblage of parking lots and driveways badly fails to achieve any of these. If you look at the designs in one of the more recent planning presentations - 301 or 302, can't remember which - it shows what the footprint would look like conceptually. It would cover somewhere between 1/2 and 2/3 of Lot A, but that would leave room for turning the space between that and Darnall into something other than vehicular asphalt.
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Post by thebin on Oct 16, 2015 14:00:46 GMT -5
To me the "open green space" fight is a battle that was lost decades ago. Ours is an urban campus. The Hospital/St.Marys part of campus is a junk show. Yes, I do care that it improves. But no I don't expect parkland to take over for the parking lots and utility roads. I'd be fine with nice looking new buildings that front Reservoir and perhaps mask large underground parking structures. Anything to drown out the institutionalized lowest bidder buildings of which we still have too many hailing from the 1940s-1970s, particularly in that corner of campus.
There is a reason some might not care what campus looks like from Reservoir rd: they have long pretended that isn't really part of campus at all as a coping mechanism.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 16, 2015 15:32:21 GMT -5
To me the "open green space" fight is a battle that was lost decades ago. Ours is an urban campus. The Hospital/St.Marys part of campus is a junk show. Yes, I do care that it improves. But no I don't expect parkland to take over for the parking lots and utility roads. I'd be fine with nice looking new buildings that front Reservoir and perhaps mask large underground parking structures. Anything to drown out the institutionalized lowest bidder buildings of which we still have too many hailing from the 1940s-1970s, particularly in that corner of campus. There is a reason some might not care what campus looks like from Reservoir rd: they have long pretended that isn't really part of campus at all as a coping mechanism. Does anyone see neighborhood resistance from the heavy equipment and jackhammering that will dominate that region for 2-3 years? Or will their lack of opposition further illuminate the conflict of interest between the anti-Georgetown forces in Burleith and the residential real estate interests that benefit from driving higher home prices through student-free zoning?
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Post by thebin on Oct 16, 2015 16:25:37 GMT -5
I would hope that the local tradition of NIMBYism to that 226 year-old johnny-come-lately will give way to self interest in the matter of a massive improvement of the only hospital within walking distance of their home in which they presumably share with their most loved ones. As well as the aforementioned aesthetic improvement to THEIR neighborhood.
But stranger things have happened if I'm wrong about that...
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Oct 23, 2015 18:06:40 GMT -5
I am glad that they are upgrading (well, maybe not for that amount of money). They are doing some great things concerning Parkinsons Disease (which seems to strike an inordinately number of great athletes (including one of our great middle distance runner from the past).
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Post by RusskyHoya on Dec 19, 2015 20:48:22 GMT -5
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Post by DFW HOYA on Dec 19, 2015 21:13:04 GMT -5
Items of interest in the footnotes: 1. Kober-Cogan demolished. (Maybe before someone objects to those names, too...) 2. "West wing of St. Mary's demolished in future phase". 3. A small square in the northeast edge of the Leavey Center titled as "future addition."
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Post by hilltopper2000 on Dec 20, 2015 11:01:05 GMT -5
That's great. Let's get it done. The partial demoltion of St Mary's would create a mini quad between it and Darnall. That portion of campus will never have inspiring architecture but it will become a much more pleasant residential environment.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Dec 20, 2015 14:38:55 GMT -5
Items of interest in the footnotes: 1. Kober-Cogan demolished. (Maybe before someone objects to those names, too...) 2. "West wing of St. Mary's demolished in future phase". 3. A small square in the northeast edge of the Leavey Center titled as "future addition." 1.Kober-Cogan is functionally obsolete, and that footprint is exceedingly awkward. No one should be sad to see it go. I am not aware of any notorious acts on the part of either George M. Kober or William N. Cogan. Certainly nothing that earned them harsh opprobrium from their peers, something we cannot say for Messrs. Mulledy and McSherry, who disgraced themselves by the standards of their own time, not just ours. Incidentally, both Kober and Cogan are remarkable, accomplished individuals who are worthy of continued recognition even if the unfortunate structure that currently bears their name is demolished. 2. I'm not sure why this is necessary; perhaps the spacing of the new quad requires it to maintain symmetry. Regardless, St. Mary's is also an unfortunate building - a few stories too short and missing chunks of lot coverage that someone must at some point have thought would become popular, or at least recognized, courtyards. That never happened, especially with the spaces facing the path alongside the border with Visitation and The Cloisters. Any demolition of the west wing should be accompanied by an expansion of the remaining structure. 3. I know that Leavey has existing approval for vertical expansion in this area, where the second-story bookstore addition is now. Perhaps there's a larger re-imagining anf expansion of space to be done there, with the current offices, storage spaces, and stairwells repurposed (or at least recreated) in a more coherent way.
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Post by hoyatables on Dec 24, 2015 9:47:08 GMT -5
The idea for Leavey is to create a new "front door" for the university at the terminus of the new lawn. St. Mary's needs to be altered to accommodate the width of the lawn.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Jan 28, 2016 13:08:00 GMT -5
New hospital concept goes up before the ANC for the first time next week. Topher Matthews seems to think it will be generally well received, although neighbors will closely scrutinize the traffic numbers (while continuing to blissfully ignore that the main contributors to Georgetown traffic are #1. themselves #2. commuters going through the neighborhood from VA/MD to points north and east). georgetownmetropolitan.com/2016/01/28/big-projects-on-the-anc-agenda-for-next-week/
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Post by RusskyHoya on Feb 5, 2016 22:18:05 GMT -5
As predicted, the ANC was generally positive, with some reservations about aesthetics and parking. Per The Current:
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Post by RusskyHoya on Feb 10, 2016 19:54:43 GMT -5
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Post by RusskyHoya on Mar 4, 2016 14:17:12 GMT -5
Our favorite busybodies at Ye Olde Georgetowne Boarde are unhappy with MedStar's design: OGB is an annoyance, but I don't really disagree with their comments. Hopefully MedStar comes up with a more space-efficient (although no doubt more expensive) solution.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 4, 2016 15:24:19 GMT -5
Our favorite busybodies at Ye Olde Georgetowne Boarde are unhappy with MedStar's design: OGB is an annoyance, but I don't really disagree with their comments. Hopefully MedStar comes up with a more space-efficient (although no doubt more expensive) solution. The fact that the ED will be near Darnall, etc. and may be noisy seems to be a concern that's outside the purview of the OGB, no? (realizing that everything is in the purview of the OGB and every other advisory board in DC). On a related note, good to see Jennifer Altemus continuing to show love for her alma mater.
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