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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 8, 2015 15:35:50 GMT -5
You're going to have to be more specific here on which part you disagree with - that the TAC will help women's soccer specifically, or that it will help non-basketball sports more broadly? Will it help non-basketball sports more broadly? At a structural level, yes. Better training facilities, like better libraries and better dorms, help everyone. I don't think it's going to, on its own, elevate women's basketball to the Final Four, as an example. While the facility is absolutely needed, it's not head and shoulders above what recruits will see at Texas, at North Carolina, or at Louisville. If we are talking about recruits looking at Butler or Seton Hall, that's probably a different argument. The facility holds locker room space for basketball, soccer, and lacrosse, so the impact is going to be different for these sports versus a football or rowing recruit.
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Post by Problem of Dog on Nov 8, 2015 18:41:11 GMT -5
You're going to have to be more specific here on which part you disagree with - that the TAC will help women's soccer specifically, or that it will help non-basketball sports more broadly? Will it help non-basketball sports more broadly? At a structural level, yes. Better training facilities, like better libraries and better dorms, help everyone. I don't think it's going to, on its own, elevate women's basketball to the Final Four, as an example. While the facility is absolutely needed, it's not head and shoulders above what recruits will see at Texas, at North Carolina, or at Louisville. If we are talking about recruits looking at Butler or Seton Hall, that's probably a different argument. The facility holds locker room space for basketball, soccer, and lacrosse, so the impact is going to be different for these sports versus a football or rowing recruit. Are you just ignoring the point he's making and choosing to respond to an entirely different one?
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Post by reformation on Nov 8, 2015 20:01:29 GMT -5
Though its less visible among students I would say track is still maybe above lax + soccer in the internal GU hierarchy-close call though. Mens soccer and a men's and women's track get the best recruits of any sports at GU. Women's lax probably next followed by mens lax among the sports your debating. Track has won natl champs in XC and ind titles, while men's soccer is competitive for the natl win, while women's soccer is not really competitive for a natl championship. The women's lax team has been in a steady decline for some years while the mens team is making a comeback but is still not a natl champ competitor.
As far as support; however, the support for the track, soccer, and lax I suspect is pretty similar, maybe women's soccer slightly below the others. where I think Gtwn could rationalize its support, i.e., increasing support for some sports and decreasing others is in the next tier down--i.e., are there other sports which should be funded like soccer/lax/track etc.
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 9, 2015 11:32:10 GMT -5
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Post by aleutianhoya on Nov 9, 2015 14:50:23 GMT -5
Tough loss. Hoyas hit the post like 4 times in the first half. If they had finished better in the first half it never would've gone to PKs. Not the sharpest game but fought well to force over time. PKs left a lot to be desired. Hoyas have an outside shot to make the tournament. RPI going in was 32 which should be on the inside of the bubble, but losing to 78 Providence will drop us. We only have 3 top 50 wins: #26 St. John's who will drop with their loss, #45 GW, and #49 JMU. And those last 2 could fall out of the top 50 with losses. So not the best resume. Fingers crossed, but we've been snubbed with better resumes than this. It's going to be very tight. JMU won their league, so their RPI is now higher and it'll be one more win against an NCAA team. But GW lost in theirs, so they are not a Top 50 win anymore. Too bad our preseason win over WVU (top ten RPI) didn't count.....
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Nov 9, 2015 15:03:18 GMT -5
I am pretty sure that a penalty kick loss in conference tournaments are considered ties for the RPI. So we actually have no losses to teams that won't make the NCAA. I think we probably get in but Butler might have stolen our bid.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Nov 9, 2015 15:16:01 GMT -5
You are correct re: the RPI. And you are right that all of our losses are to teams in the field (although Butler still isn't ranked particularly highly).
But the challenge is an utter lack of good wins. Our best win is against no. 32 St. John's. We finish at 37 in the RPI.
Lord knows I haven't broken down the bubble. Maybe the teams we're competing with are similarly challenged and have worse losses.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 9, 2015 16:40:04 GMT -5
And the Women are in! host Hofstra! Looks like November 14th at 1pm. Unfortunate it will conflict with the basketball home opener.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Nov 9, 2015 16:47:07 GMT -5
Congratulations to the ladies! And another terrific fall for our teams. Would play Rutgers in the following round with ND looming in the Sweet 16. For those that don't know, there's not really any seeding outside of the top 16 teams. Matchups are done purely geographically and home games don't necessarily go to the higher seeded team, which can combine to present some seriously unfair matchups. Neither we nor Hofstra is seeded, but Hofstra was probably close. They're 21st in the RPI to our 37th. (So, the matchup and "seeding" probably is about right, but I'm sure Hofstra wouldn't be too happy about having to come here.)
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Nov 9, 2015 16:59:17 GMT -5
Also schools have to 1) meet requirements to host 2) put in a bid to host. Hofstra may not have bid or might not have a field that meets regulation, because other wise hosting should go to the team with the higher RPI.
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Nov 9, 2015 17:00:18 GMT -5
Sweet! Congrats to the women!
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Post by DanMcQ on Nov 9, 2015 17:38:24 GMT -5
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Nov 9, 2015 18:05:32 GMT -5
Congratulations to the women. Now they just have to be careful of the Hostra hop (inside joke from long ago). Now, if the men's and women's XC teams get in (Friday is regionals and both should make it), we will have four fall teams in the NCAAs.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 11, 2015 10:22:30 GMT -5
Well deserved for a strong season. Now let's win and advance. Hoya Saxa.
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Post by GUJook97 on Nov 14, 2015 12:16:06 GMT -5
My GU app is saying that you can stream this game free through Hofstra. Just FYI for those interested.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Nov 14, 2015 15:43:20 GMT -5
Another setback for the women's team: GU misses two consecutive penalty kicks and is bounced out of the NCAA's.
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Post by kchoya on Nov 14, 2015 17:37:47 GMT -5
Another setback for the women's team: GU misses two consecutive penalty kicks and is bounced out of the NCAA's. Almost as bad as the FGCU game.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Nov 14, 2015 19:24:43 GMT -5
Another setback for the women's team: GU misses two consecutive penalty kicks and is bounced out of the NCAA's. They missed 2 straight in the BET also. Do they even practice those? It is clear that the coaching staff played too conservatively, did not have the team ready to compete, and has not recruited any PK specialists. They should be on the hot seat.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Nov 14, 2015 23:56:24 GMT -5
Yes, yes, lolz and all that. In truth, it is a terribly disappointing outcome - this team was far too talented and successful to end up with zero hardware, or even an NCAA win, to show for it. And they were inches away from those achievements. This was a highly entertaining match, featuring: - multiple point-blank misses by Georgetown
- a disallowed Hofstra goal
- a would-be Hofstra goal cleared off the line
- Hofstra's leading goal and point scorer knocking herself out of the game by sliding into Hoya GK Emma Newins, earning both a yellow card and what looked like a sprained knee
- Hofstra bringing in their backup GK, sporting a 5+ Goals Against Average, as a PK specialist... after something like an 8-minute delay because she had a faulty glove(!)
- countless blocked, deflected, poked away, and otherwise ever-so-slightly redirected shots
Even with the disappointment, the seniors deserve many cheers and plaudits for getting the program to this point, where anything short of conference trophies and NCAA victories is a disappointment. Now the next generation has to build on it, especially with the Thompson Center coming online.
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Post by bearsandbulls on Feb 2, 2016 11:02:52 GMT -5
Georgetown welcomes a transfer goalie from UCLA Arielle Schectman, who is enrolled in spring classes, and I suspect cleared to play next year as she has moved out of conference in her transfer. Welcome aboard, you will love G'town. She is apparently a junior in eligibility.
Also, with signing day Wednesday, could someone post the new signees and positions, as Top Drawer Soccer is not much help on G'town soccer (they still have our 2014 roster up). They show five 2016 signees, but I think we have seven coming in. Thanks in advance.
Hear that we will have Crystal and Marina back to buttress the team next year. We will miss our graduating seniors and grad students, but should be an extremely competitive team for 2016
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