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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 20:26:52 GMT -5
^ Shot Chaser: Classified docs contradict Nunes surveillance claims, GOP and Dem sources say: After a review of the same intelligence reports brought to light by House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes, both Republican and Democratic lawmakers and aides have so far found no evidence that Obama administration officials did anything unusual or illegal, multiple sources in both parties tell CNN. Their private assessment contradicts President Donald Trump's allegations that former Obama national security adviser Susan Rice broke the law by requesting the "unmasking" of US individuals' identities. Trump had claimed the matter was a "massive story." However, over the last week, several members and staff of the House and Senate intelligence committees have reviewed intelligence reports related to those requests at NSA headquarters in Fort Meade, Maryland. One congressional intelligence source described the requests made by Rice as "normal and appropriate" for officials who serve in that role to the president. And another source said there's "absolutely" no smoking gun in the reports, urging the White House to declassify them to make clear there was nothing alarming in the documents. www.cnn.com/2017/04/11/politics/intelligence-contradicts-nunes-unmasking-claims/index.html_________________ Looks like the only spin here was coming from the WH, Nunes and RW Media... One has to wonder why Nunes and the WH would do that...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 11, 2017 20:46:49 GMT -5
Trump promised an ‘unpredictable’ foreign policy. To allies, it looks incoherent. During their White House meeting last month, Merkel tried to pin down Trump on one of the top concerns of U.S. trading partners: a proposed “border adjustment tax” to be imposed on imported goods. Publicly, Trump has signaled an openness to the idea, but he also said it has drawbacks. “Don’t worry,” Trump told Merkel, holding his thumb and forefinger close together. “It will only be a little bit.” Trump’s breezy answer — and Merkel’s exasperation — has been the talk of diplomatic circles in Washington and Europe. “So all the chancellor of Germany knows is that, ‘It will only be a little bit,’ ” said a senior European diplomat in Washington, holding up his fingers as Trump did, and repeating an account confirmed by others in anxious embassies in Washington. “It’s very puzzling.” Ambiguity has always had a place in diplomacy, of course. But Trump adds to that a freestyle approach to international relations. He has a disregard for norms and protocol, an impulsive nature and a tendency toward making contradictory statements. Compounding the chaos is the fact that those who claim to speak for Trump — Cabinet officials and top White House advisers — also have offered conflicting pronouncements on basic questions about the direction of U.S. policy
In interviews over the past few weeks with a half-dozen foreign ambassadors based in Washington, most complained — diplomatically, of course — that thin lines of communication have made it difficult for them to explain U.S. intentions to officials in their home capitals. That is creating strain on traditionally solid alliances, they said.
“Nobody can tell us on Russia what the American policy is, on Syria what the American policy is, on China what the American policy is,” one ambassador said. “I’m not sure there is a policy. They will listen to me and tell me, ‘We will get back to you when there is a policy.’ ”www.washingtonpost.com/politics/trump-promised-an-unpredictable-foreign-policy-to-allies-it-looks-incoherent/2017/04/11/21acde5e-1a3d-11e7-9887-1a5314b56a08_story.html?tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.3f1ec85648a7
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Post by Deleted on Apr 12, 2017 7:42:50 GMT -5
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Post by hoyainspirit on Apr 12, 2017 18:31:30 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 12, 2017 18:39:06 GMT -5
It's a mangled marriage between FDR's First Inaugural ("The only thing we have to fear is fear itself") and Yogi Berra ("No one goes there anymore, it's always too crowded").
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Post by tashoya on Apr 12, 2017 19:09:27 GMT -5
I wish President Obama would have left behind his teleprompter so Trump could at least fake literacy and a sense of understanding or direction.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2017 11:20:30 GMT -5
The Presidents top advisers are his kids. A 35 year old real estate developer and a 34 year old clothing designer. Happy Easter
"Paid protestors"... Derp....
Trump has returned to his regular programming: Tweeting insults at the American people.
Politicians should release their taxes to prove they have no conflict of interest. Since Trump hasn't we don't know the depth of his conflicts. He can spend the next however many years lining his pockets, making policy that enriches himself like tax reform and nobody would ever know... If you need a clue as to how that will go Trump calls it "Tax cuts reform"...lol
Hide the swamp. It's like he spent the last 5 years warning us about his future self...
1) He's lying and made it up out of thin air. Obama's visitor records are available to anyone who wants to see them. So first off it's not even true
2) When given the opportunity to do something different, he does the same thing he falsely criticized others for and uses them as an excuse as to why it's ok.... My lie about you justifies my poor actions.
Trump is the least transparent Politician of our time. Funny how this same guy allows corporations to snoop and sell our privacy off to the highest bidder. He hides his taxes, medical records, who visits him etc. Why? If I was a grifter who planned on being unethical and stuffing my pockets through the presidency I would do the same.... As of today Trump has spent 28% of his Presidency visiting a Trump property and having the tax payer pay for it...
Spicer: Transparency in Trump administration 'has exceeded any modern president'
What's the point of having "ethics rules" if you secretly waive them? Lobbyist ban was a PR stunt also..
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Post by tashoya on Apr 17, 2017 22:31:27 GMT -5
I almost feel bad for Spicer at this point. He couldn't be more poorly suited for his position. Not that he lacks qualifications. He's just terrible at it. I'm not sure who or what type of person would be good at that particular job in this particular administration as it's a near impossible task slinging and keeping track of all of the BS. It's a much more difficult task to pile lies on top of lies as opposed to just telling the truth or something akin to it. Odd that he's trumpeting transparency when it's the lack of transparency that makes his job so difficult.
The amazing part to me is that, according to today's Gallup poll, 45% of those polled still believe that Trump keeps his promises. The implication, to me anyway, is that 45% of those polled think President Trump is trustworthy. That is stunning.
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 18, 2017 5:37:09 GMT -5
I almost feel bad for Spicer at this point. He couldn't be more poorly suited for his position. Not that he lacks qualifications. He's just terrible at it. I'm not sure who or what type of person would be good at that particular job in this particular administration as it's a near impossible task slinging and keeping track of all of the BS. It's a much more difficult task to pile lies on top of lies as opposed to just telling the truth or something akin to it. Odd that he's trumpeting transparency when it's the lack of transparency that makes his job so difficult. The amazing part to me is that, according to today's Gallup poll, 45% of those polled still believe that Trump keeps his promises. The implication, to me anyway, is that 45% of those polled think President Trump is trustworthy. That is stunning. Don't feel sorry for Spicer. He's gone fully Orwellian for Trump. Life is full of choices and he has chosen to align himself with an amoral malignant narcissist and pathological liar. The same goes for Ryan. Trump's honest/trustworthy number is only 36% in that poll and the 45% that believe he keeps his promises is -17 since February when it was at 62%. It is amazing to me it was ever at 62% in the first place. The trend is all downward since February and at historic lows in comparison to other Presidents. www.gallup.com/poll/208640/majority-no-longer-thinks-trump-keeps-promises.aspx
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 11:16:43 GMT -5
The Trump Family Administration definitely isn't tired of winning yet... Dolla dolla bills ya'll...
China also granted Potus Trump trademarks he had been pursuing for 10 years right around the time he decided to recognize their One China Policy. Pretty effective strategy that probably goes something like this. Give Trump some money and/or adulation and he'll be your bestie..
Trump first ________
This is so odd.. The State Department came out against this saying basically it is not Democracy. Election watchers in Turkey estimate 2 million votes were altered. Erdogan has jailed thousands of jounalists, and his political rivals. He's crushed any and all dissent. Why on Earth would Trump be the first and only Western leader to call and congratulate him on becoming Dictator light??
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Post by hoyainspirit on Apr 18, 2017 11:38:27 GMT -5
I almost feel bad for Spicer at this point. He couldn't be more poorly suited for his position. Not that he lacks qualifications. He's just terrible at it. I'm not sure who or what type of person would be good at that particular job in this particular administration as it's a near impossible task slinging and keeping track of all of the BS. It's a much more difficult task to pile lies on top of lies as opposed to just telling the truth or something akin to it. Odd that he's trumpeting transparency when it's the lack of transparency that makes his job so difficult. The amazing part to me is that, according to today's Gallup poll, 45% of those polled still believe that Trump keeps his promises. The implication, to me anyway, is that 45% of those polled think President Trump is trustworthy. That is stunning. Baghdad Bob
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2017 20:12:16 GMT -5
The Continuing Fallout from Trump and Nunes’s Fake Scandal I spoke to two intelligence sources, one who read the entire binder of intercepts and one who was briefed on their contents. “There’s absolutely nothing there,” one source said. The Trump names remain masked in the documents, and Rice would not have been able to know in all cases that she was asking the N.S.A. to unmask the names of Trump officials. Nunes is being investigated by the House Ethics Committee because, in talking about the documents, he may have leaked classified information. But this is like getting Al Capone for tax evasion. The bigger scandal is the coördinated effort to use the American intelligence services to manufacture an excuse for Trump’s original tweet. The intelligence source told me that he knows, “from talking to people in the intelligence community,” that “the White House said, ‘We are going to mobilize to find something to justify the President’s tweet that he was being surveilled.’ They put out an all-points bulletin”—a call to sift through intelligence reports—“and said, ‘We need to find something that justifies the President’s crazy tweet about surveillance at Trump Tower.’ And I’m telling you there is no way you get that from those transcripts, which are about as plain vanilla as can be.” (The White House did not respond to a request for comment.) The fallout from Trump’s tweet could have grave consequences for national security. The law governing the N.S.A.’s collection of the content of communications of foreign targets is up for renewal this summer. Known as Section 702, part of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, it is perhaps the most important intelligence tool that America’s spy agencies have to gather information about potential terrorist attacks and about the intentions of regimes around the world. There are legitimate privacy concerns about allowing the N.S.A. to vacuum up such an enormous amount of communications. A report from 2014 by the Obama Administration’s Privacy and Civil Liberties Oversight Board identified several areas that might be changed to increase the privacy protections for Americans, but the board also “found no evidence of intentional abuse” of the program. www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-lizza/the-continuing-fallout-from-trump-and-nuness-fake-scandal
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Post by Deleted on Apr 19, 2017 11:15:03 GMT -5
Lol... It is typical that a US President know who the leader of the nuclear power he's been threatening to attack is, but who among us hasn't lost an "armada" or two? Pro tip: you don't need to know the name of a leader to throw bombs at them but you do have to know where your "armada" is... www.wsj.com/articles/false-narrative-on-u-s-aircraft-carrier-elicits-jeers-in-asia-1492577625?mod=e2tw‘Duped by Trump’: U.S. Taunted Over Carl Vinson Aircraft Carrier Tale Criticism rises after the U.S. Navy says it hadn’t sent the USS Carl Vinson directly to North Korea after all In South Korea, Hong Joon-pyo, the presidential candidate from former leader Park Geun-hye’s ruling party, said it was inappropriate to judge before receiving final confirmation of the Carl Vinson’s whereabouts. But, in an interview, he said: “What Mr. Trump said was very important for the national security of South Korea. If that was a lie, then during Trump’s term, South Korea will not trust whatever Trump says.” ____________ Part of a larger strategy or to save the Presidents ego? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯" Starting to think having a President that doesn't know much and has no desire to learn anything might eventually be a problem...
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 19, 2017 12:02:28 GMT -5
Lol... It is typical that a US President know who the leader of the nuclear power he's been threatening to attack is, but who among us hasn't lost an "armada" or two? Pro tip: you don't need to know the name of a leader to throw bombs at them but you do have to know where your "armada" is... www.wsj.com/articles/false-narrative-on-u-s-aircraft-carrier-elicits-jeers-in-asia-1492577625?mod=e2tw‘Duped by Trump’: U.S. Taunted Over Carl Vinson Aircraft Carrier Tale Criticism rises after the U.S. Navy says it hadn’t sent the USS Carl Vinson directly to North Korea after all In South Korea, Hong Joon-pyo, the presidential candidate from former leader Park Geun-hye’s ruling party, said it was inappropriate to judge before receiving final confirmation of the Carl Vinson’s whereabouts. But, in an interview, he said: “What Mr. Trump said was very important for the national security of South Korea. If that was a lie, then during Trump’s term, South Korea will not trust whatever Trump says.” ____________ Part of a larger strategy or to save the Presidents ego? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯" Starting to think having a President that doesn't know much and has no desire to learn anything might eventually be a problem... LOL!! Where are the "give him a chance" folks who were so prevelant in this thread 6 months ago? Trump spends every other weekend in Florida golfing but not a peep from the poster who dubbed Obama the "Putter & Chief".. As our current Groper & Chief likes to tweet... SAD!
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Post by tashoya on Apr 20, 2017 22:10:36 GMT -5
I almost feel bad for Spicer at this point. He couldn't be more poorly suited for his position. Not that he lacks qualifications. He's just terrible at it. I'm not sure who or what type of person would be good at that particular job in this particular administration as it's a near impossible task slinging and keeping track of all of the BS. It's a much more difficult task to pile lies on top of lies as opposed to just telling the truth or something akin to it. Odd that he's trumpeting transparency when it's the lack of transparency that makes his job so difficult. The amazing part to me is that, according to today's Gallup poll, 45% of those polled still believe that Trump keeps his promises. The implication, to me anyway, is that 45% of those polled think President Trump is trustworthy. That is stunning. Don't feel sorry for Spicer. He's gone fully Orwellian for Trump. Life is full of choices and he has chosen to align himself with an amoral malignant narcissist and pathological liar. The same goes for Ryan. Trump's honest/trustworthy number is only 36% in that poll and the 45% that believe he keeps his promises is -17 since February when it was at 62%. It is amazing to me it was ever at 62% in the first place. The trend is all downward since February and at historic lows in comparison to other Presidents. www.gallup.com/poll/208640/majority-no-longer-thinks-trump-keeps-promises.aspxVery good and fair points as usual. I was probably being a bit Pollyanna about it in the sense that, being offered a position like Press Secretary by the POTUS is, likely, a tough one to turn down even if one doesn't particularly like or agree with the President requesting one's service. Regardless, Spicer has certainly offered numerous reasons to (to put it kindly) really dislike him.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 11:14:00 GMT -5
But I thought Mexic......Nevermind
Interesting strategy to try and strong arm Dems by threatening to shut down the government you're in charge of running....
0 for 10 on those but he has personally enriched himself, whined, and held more campaign events than any other Presidential first 100 days in history.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Apr 21, 2017 11:46:02 GMT -5
But I thought Mexic......Nevermind Interesting strategy to try and strong arm Dems by threatening to shut down the government you're in charge of running.... Threaten to shut down the gov't. That's the GOP move.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 21, 2017 11:50:34 GMT -5
But I thought Mexic......Nevermind Interesting strategy to try and strong arm Dems by threatening to shut down the government you're in charge of running.... Threaten to shut down the gov't. That's the GOP move. Interesting strategy to employ when you're in charge of all 3 branches... Do what we want or we will shut US down! This is not a freakn threat!
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