|
|
Post by jctnhoya4ever on Aug 11, 2015 21:21:28 GMT -5
i think you may see dsr at point and tre cambell at the shooting guard.it sounded like jt3 will play mosley at point,meaning tre may be playing the 2 most of the time.which i think he is a great shooter when he gets his feet set.if he plays the 2 i believe he can be close to a 50% three point shooter.he will improve playing the 2 i think. what does the board think? go hoyas.
|
|
|
|
Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 11, 2015 21:31:59 GMT -5
First, Mosley doesn't come in until 2016-2017.
For 2015-2016, the point will be split between DSR and Campbell, mostly. Personally, I would like to see Campbell at the point most of the time, since I think DSR works better off the ball, but I still think DSR will play a fair amount of time as the PG anyway.
|
|
|
|
Post by johnnysnowplow on Aug 11, 2015 21:48:58 GMT -5
DSR
|
|
MCIGuy
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Anyone here? What am I supposed to update?
Posts: 9,393
|
Post by MCIGuy on Aug 11, 2015 21:58:21 GMT -5
This. There are those who feel DSR did a bad job making the adjustment last season at the point. He was actually pretty good IMO and kept the turnovers low. Since the Hoyas are lacking guards it is best for Tre to come off the bench. Tre will provide the most offensive firepower of anyone outside the starting unit I should add (who could have guessed that when he came out of high school?). |
|
SaxaCD
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 4,401
|
Post by SaxaCD on Aug 11, 2015 22:14:04 GMT -5
First, Mosley doesn't come in until 2016-2017. For 2015-2016, the point will be split between DSR and Campbell, mostly. Personally, I would like to see Campbell at the point most of the time, since I think DSR works better off the ball, but I still think DSR will play a fair amount of time as the PG anyway. I think we'll see a fair amount of White handling the ball when he's in, especially in the halfcourt, and that would set DSR up as "off the ball" even if he were to be the nominal PG in the game during those times, so I think DSR will get lots of different kinds of looks, both as primary ballhandler and in off-ball situations. |
|
|
|
Post by pahoyafan1 on Aug 11, 2015 22:30:20 GMT -5
I think Paul will start over Tre simply because we need depth at the guard spot. I see DSR/Peak/Isaac/Paul/Govan over Tre/DSR/Peak/Isaac/Govan because we have guys who can play the 4/5 (Trey, Marcus, Agau, Hayes) and will need Tre to come in for relief at the 1/2 spots. When DSR and Tre are on the floor together I think its shared when bringing the ball up the floor and not designed specifically for one player.
|
|
|
|
Post by hoyalove4ever on Aug 12, 2015 11:15:03 GMT -5
It won't be some hamburger all-American!
|
|
TBird41
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
"Roy! I Love All 7'2" of you Roy!"
Posts: 8,740
|
Post by TBird41 on Aug 12, 2015 12:47:51 GMT -5
A starting back court of Peak & DSR means that we will all get unbelievably hammered if we drink every time an announcer uses the word "length"
|
|
calhoya
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 4,351
Member is Online
|
Post by calhoya on Aug 12, 2015 14:36:53 GMT -5
DSR first. Peak and Tre as the back-ups. I think that White comes next in terms of learning to be more of a ball handler. However, in the JT III system (assuming the talent is there) there are always at least 3 players with some capability/responsibility as ball handlers. I believe that the biggest surprise of the season for Hoya opponents will be the overall improvement in Peak--in virtually every aspect of the game. I see his future at the next level as a PG with shooting skills who is capable of playing tight defense.
|
|
|
|
Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 12, 2015 14:37:52 GMT -5
I think we'll see a fair amount of White handling the ball when he's in, especially in the halfcourt, and that would set DSR up as "off the ball" even if he were to be the nominal PG in the game during those times, so I think DSR will get lots of different kinds of looks, both as primary ballhandler and in off-ball situations. It will be interesting to see how JTIII handles White. Even when Whittington played shooting guard, he rarely brought the ball up, but we had Starks then who was more than capable as the main ball handler. I am less convinced that JTIII will have White handling the ball as much simply because he did not last year. Look at it this way: We know Campbell and DSR will primarily have ball-handling duties when they're in the game. I expect there to be virtually no minutes where both of those guys are on the bench (barring injury, etc.). Last year, Peak played a lot of minutes as the shooting guard. I expect that will continue, but I also think he'll see time in an SF role too. Thus, I think that the odds White will be a primary ball handler are pretty low since he'll almost always have two of DSR/Campbell/Peak on the Court. All that being said, White could take on the facilitator role in the half-court offense, and maybe he will excel there. EDIT: calhoya basically wrote the same thing at the same time! |
|
smokeyjack
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 1,296 
|
Post by smokeyjack on Aug 12, 2015 21:43:30 GMT -5
First, Mosley doesn't come in until 2016-2017. For 2015-2016, the point will be split between DSR and Campbell, mostly. Personally, I would like to see Campbell at the point most of the time, since I think DSR works better off the ball, but I still think DSR will play a fair amount of time as the PG anyway. I think we'll see a fair amount of White handling the ball when he's in, especially in the halfcourt, and that would set DSR up as "off the ball" even if he were to be the nominal PG in the game during those times, so I think DSR will get lots of different kinds of looks, both as primary ballhandler and in off-ball situations. |
|
smokeyjack
Golden Hoya (over 1000 posts)
Posts: 1,296
|
Post by smokeyjack on Aug 12, 2015 21:44:53 GMT -5
I think we'll see a fair amount of White handling the ball when he's in, especially in the halfcourt, and that would set DSR up as "off the ball" even if he were to be the nominal PG in the game during those times, so I think DSR will get lots of different kinds of looks, both as primary ballhandler and in off-ball situations. It will be interesting to see how JTIII handles White. Even when Whittington played shooting guard, he rarely brought the ball up, but we had Starks then who was more than capable as the main ball handler. I am less convinced that JTIII will have White handling the ball as much simply because he did not last year. Look at it this way: We know Campbell and DSR will primarily have ball-handling duties when they're in the game. I expect there to be virtually no minutes where both of those guys are on the bench (barring injury, etc.). Last year, Peak played a lot of minutes as the shooting guard. I expect that will continue, but I also think he'll see time in an SF role too. Thus, I think that the odds White will be a primary ball handler are pretty low since he'll almost always have two of DSR/Campbell/Peak on the Court. All that being said, White could take on the facilitator role in the half-court offense, and maybe he will excel there. EDIT: calhoya basically wrote the same thing at the same time! Good Lord. Go smoke some more crack. White doesn't remotely resemble a point guard. |
|
tashoya
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 12,318
|
Post by tashoya on Aug 12, 2015 22:57:02 GMT -5
Thankfully, same dude as last year for the most part. I think it'll be more of the same. The wrinkle being that Tre showed enough last year to take a little pressure off of DSR. Can't wait to see the year DSR puts together this year. He's got more support offensively than he's accustomed to and it should free him up more to do what he does. Get 'em Hoyas!
|
|
tashoya
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 12,318
|
Post by tashoya on Aug 12, 2015 23:00:55 GMT -5
It will be interesting to see how JTIII handles White. Even when Whittington played shooting guard, he rarely brought the ball up, but we had Starks then who was more than capable as the main ball handler. I am less convinced that JTIII will have White handling the ball as much simply because he did not last year. Look at it this way: We know Campbell and DSR will primarily have ball-handling duties when they're in the game. I expect there to be virtually no minutes where both of those guys are on the bench (barring injury, etc.). Last year, Peak played a lot of minutes as the shooting guard. I expect that will continue, but I also think he'll see time in an SF role too. Thus, I think that the odds White will be a primary ball handler are pretty low since he'll almost always have two of DSR/Campbell/Peak on the Court. All that being said, White could take on the facilitator role in the half-court offense, and maybe he will excel there. EDIT: calhoya basically wrote the same thing at the same time! Good Lord. Go smoke some more crack. White doesn't remotely resemble a point guard. He doesn't. But he will bring the ball up the floor from time to time and set up the offense. Just like he did last year. |
|
lichoya68
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
Posts: 17,438
|
Post by lichoya68 on Aug 13, 2015 9:23:21 GMT -5
NO POINT as coach as said alot of people will be expected to handle the rock NOT just one person so ALOT OF POINT GUARDS you shoulda seen paul white bringing the ball up the court and passing AND directing traffic yup ALOT OF POINTS many points of light so to speak go hoyas MANGIA
|
|
lichoya68
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
OK YOUNGINS ARE HERE AND ARE VERY VERY GOOD cant wait GO HOYAS
Posts: 17,438
|
Post by lichoya68 on Aug 13, 2015 9:25:16 GMT -5
i dont smoke crack and if you saw paul this summer in kenner i believe youd realize he can bring the ball up if neccessry 6'8 guy overlooing the presses not an awful idea sometimes no crack here and not even trying to crack a joke so to speak go hoyas Listen to what coach says about his " point " guard.. just saying .
|
|
|
|
Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 13, 2015 13:46:55 GMT -5
Good Lord. Go smoke some more crack. White doesn't remotely resemble a point guard. I have absolutely no idea who smokeyjack directed this toward, but I don't think anybody here was saying that White is a point guard. As multiple folks have said, DSR/Campbell/Peak will likely bring the ball up and do much of the ball handling, but White will likely occasionally have the ball in his hands. I don't think he'll be a main ball handler, but that doesn't mean he can never handle the ball either. |
|
|
|
Post by bicentennial on Aug 13, 2015 21:00:09 GMT -5
8-)The question is who will play point not point guard. White may frequently play point forward and direct the offense from the top of the key. He will bring the ball up and help when needed to break down a press. He is not a guard. Still he is the best point forward on the team since Jeff Green and point at GU is not always a guard. There is a reason most of our guard recruits are either listed as combo or shooting guard. The ideal guards in JTIIIs system appear to have both shooting and point duties. Sometimes like Markel and probably Tre, they are so much better at handling the ball that they become defacto point guards. Other times like next year, there are forwards who can help see and direct the offense. When we have had those players, our offensive efficiency seems at it best. It seems White, Copeland and possibly even Trey and Derrickson may have that ability! What fun that would be!
|
|
|
|
Post by lancasterhoyafan on Aug 14, 2015 8:57:13 GMT -5
What bicentennial said is on point.
|
|
|
|
Post by michaeldm9 on Aug 14, 2015 9:41:35 GMT -5
Joey Brown
|
|
