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Post by michaeldm9 on Aug 4, 2015 21:03:44 GMT -5
Seems like the team will have lots of depth this year. My question is will JTTII have the guts to do a platoon system and play as many player as Calapari did last year or will he stick to his customary approach of playing limited amount of players. During JTII tenure he has never went real deep in his bench for extended minutes. So then its going to boil down who is fighting who for minutes. I going to also have this thread ready for when Bradley doesn't get any minutes and I go on my tirade about why isn't he playing. LOL.
So this what I think. 7 Deep consistently each night.
Starting 5 = Peak, DSR, Copeland, White, Govan
Bench = Mourning/Derrickson, Tre Campbell
8th and 9th man in spot situations like sever foul trouble Bradley, Cameron/Johnson
So the two battles will be Mourning/Derrickson and Cameron/Johnson fighting for minutes. Johnson going to win out over Cameron and I am not sure about the Mourning/Derrickson battle. I hope Mourning get more time this year. Based on years past, I cant see JTIII going 10 deep each night. Bradley will some minutes until League play start then he will be regulated back to the bench like always.
Beats case scenario, The team press play up tempo and go 10 deep each like. That's what I am really hoping for. And please stay out of foul trouble.
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Post by vv83 on Aug 4, 2015 21:11:40 GMT -5
Agau is going to play. He has been surprisingly impressive this summer, given how little he has played in official competition the past two years. Granted, there are limitations to what kenner games can tell you about a player's ability to perform in real games. But Agau simply knows how to play basketball - where to be, what to do, how to take good advantage of his skills, etc. He is a good athlete with solid skills, plays hard, does lots of the "little things" that add up to winning. I would be surprised if he does not end up in the regular 8 man rotation, quite possibly limiting the minutes that Derrickson and Johnson get this year. And Derrickson/Johnson are both good - Agau is just a lot more advanced in his basketball savvy, and he has a solid athleticism/skill set combination.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Aug 4, 2015 21:33:57 GMT -5
Seems like the team will have lots of depth this year. My question is will JTTII have the guts to do a platoon system and play as many player as Calapari did last year or will he stick to his customary approach of playing limited amount of players. During JTII tenure he has never went real deep in his bench for extended minutes. So then its going to boil down who is fighting who for minutes. I going to also have this thread ready for when Bradley doesn't get any minutes and I go on my tirade about why isn't he playing. LOL. So this what I think. 7 Deep consistently each night. Starting 5 = Peak, DSR, Copeland, White, Govan Bench = Mourning/Derrickson, Tre Campbell 8th and 9th man in spot situations like sever foul trouble Bradley, Cameron/Johnson So the two battles will be Mourning/Derrickson and Cameron/Johnson fighting for minutes. Johnson going to win out over Cameron and I am not sure about the Mourning/Derrickson battle. I hope Mourning get more time this year. Based on years past, I cant see JTIII going 10 deep each night. Bradley will some minutes until League play start then he will be regulated back to the bench like always. Beats case scenario, The team press play up tempo and go 10 deep each like. That's what I am really hoping for. And please stay out of foul trouble. "will JTIII have the guts..." doesn't quite sound right. It's like saying he is scared, a coward, lacking in courage. |
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Post by trillesthoya on Aug 4, 2015 22:15:23 GMT -5
Wow this thread is making me realize just how deep we are this year... Don't think we'd ever go platoon, while it sounds really cool on paper I'm not sure if it would help our team over just playing our best players depending on the other team's lineup.
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Post by professorhoya on Aug 4, 2015 22:31:19 GMT -5
Seems like the team will have lots of depth this year. My question is will JTTII have the guts to do a platoon system and play as many player as Calapari did last year or will he stick to his customary approach of playing limited amount of players. During JTII tenure he has never went real deep in his bench for extended minutes. So then its going to boil down who is fighting who for minutes. I going to also have this thread ready for when Bradley doesn't get any minutes and I go on my tirade about why isn't he playing. LOL. So this what I think. 7 Deep consistently each night. Starting 5 = Peak, DSR, Copeland, White, Govan Bench = Mourning/Derrickson, Tre Campbell 8th and 9th man in spot situations like sever foul trouble Bradley, Cameron/Johnson So the two battles will be Mourning/Derrickson and Cameron/Johnson fighting for minutes. Johnson going to win out over Cameron and I am not sure about the Mourning/Derrickson battle. I hope Mourning get more time this year. Based on years past, I cant see JTIII going 10 deep each night. Bradley will some minutes until League play start then he will be regulated back to the bench like always. Beats case scenario, The team press play up tempo and go 10 deep each like. That's what I am really hoping for. And please stay out of foul trouble. And so it begins . . . Well at least you aren't coach because you don't have "the guts" to play Akoy. Johnson will play between 13-20 minutes a game. Akoy 20 plus. Mourning/Derrickson not sure. Will probably depend on the matchup. Hayes is well, hurt. Broken Arm or Thumb or hand. So that may retard his PT before league play as others move up the depth chart. |
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Post by kchoya on Aug 4, 2015 23:56:19 GMT -5
Seems like the team will have lots of depth this year. My question is will JTTII have the guts to do a platoon system and play as many player as Calapari did last year or will he stick to his customary approach of playing limited amount of players. During JTII tenure he has never went real deep in his bench for extended minutes. So then its going to boil down who is fighting who for minutes. I going to also have this thread ready for when Bradley doesn't get any minutes and I go on my tirade about why isn't he playing. LOL. So this what I think. 7 Deep consistently each night. Starting 5 = Peak, DSR, Copeland, White, Govan Bench = Mourning/Derrickson, Tre Campbell 8th and 9th man in spot situations like sever foul trouble Bradley, Cameron/Johnson So the two battles will be Mourning/Derrickson and Cameron/Johnson fighting for minutes. Johnson going to win out over Cameron and I am not sure about the Mourning/Derrickson battle. I hope Mourning get more time this year. Based on years past, I cant see JTIII going 10 deep each night. Bradley will some minutes until League play start then he will be regulated back to the bench like always. Beats case scenario, The team press play up tempo and go 10 deep each like. That's what I am really hoping for. And please stay out of foul trouble. Maybe you'll have the guts to correctly identify our coach before attacking him. |
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Aug 5, 2015 1:37:52 GMT -5
Seems like the team will have lots of depth this year. My question is will JTTII have the guts to do a platoon system and play as many player as Calapari did last year or will he stick to his customary approach of playing limited amount of players. During JTII tenure he has never went real deep in his bench for extended minutes. So then its going to boil down who is fighting who for minutes. I going to also have this thread ready for when Bradley doesn't get any minutes and I go on my tirade about why isn't he playing. LOL. So this what I think. 7 Deep consistently each night. Starting 5 = Peak, DSR, Copeland, White, Govan Bench = Mourning/Derrickson, Tre Campbell 8th and 9th man in spot situations like sever foul trouble Bradley, Cameron/Johnson So the two battles will be Mourning/Derrickson and Cameron/Johnson fighting for minutes. Johnson going to win out over Cameron and I am not sure about the Mourning/Derrickson battle. I hope Mourning get more time this year. Based on years past, I cant see JTIII going 10 deep each night. Bradley will some minutes until League play start then he will be regulated back to the bench like always. Beats case scenario, The team press play up tempo and go 10 deep each like. That's what I am really hoping for. And please stay out of foul trouble. "will JTIII have the guts..." doesn't quite sound right. It's like saying he is scared, a coward, lacking in courage. Now, having said that, I do like your starting 5. Based on the Kenner reports, though, I don't think it's unrealistic to expect to see a lot of Akau--much too talented and experienced to be ignored. I would love to see Hayes utilized and become a key contributor as well. |
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Post by hoyazeke on Aug 5, 2015 6:54:32 GMT -5
Why would we go platoon when that was probably the reason UK didn't win the 'ship last year. Most analysts believe UK goes undefeated if they had given up on the platoon system.....
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Post by nychoya3 on Aug 5, 2015 8:23:50 GMT -5
Platoons are dumb. Why would we want to play Copeland 20 minutes a game? We do have a deep roster of interesting parts. We should give a lot of guys a chance early in the season and figure out which 8 or 9 guy rotation makes the most sense as we get into the later part of the season.
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Post by michaeldm9 on Aug 5, 2015 8:25:47 GMT -5
Why would we go platoon when that was probably the reason UK didn't win the 'ship last year. Most analysts believe UK goes undefeated if they had given up on the platoon system..... Didn't UK make it to the Final 4. Also Calapari Stated early in the season that he had a lot of guys who deserved to play and who was going to make every to get them on the court. Another point that he made was "How would you feel if it was your kid not playing." I don't respect Calapri for a lot of things, but I did respect him on how he handled playing time last year. |
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Post by tashoya on Aug 5, 2015 8:31:13 GMT -5
Platoons don't get played for good reasons. One reason being that no other school has 2 starting fives like Kentucky did (and still didn't win it all). Deep rotations require solid depth. We have more of that this year than in most recent years so I expect a longer rotation.
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Post by tashoya on Aug 5, 2015 8:32:15 GMT -5
Why would we go platoon when that was probably the reason UK didn't win the 'ship last year. Most analysts believe UK goes undefeated if they had given up on the platoon system..... Didn't UK make it to the Final 4. Also Calapari Stated early in the season that he had a lot of guys who deserved to play and who was going to make every to get them on the court. Another point that he made was "How would you feel if it was your kid not playing." I don't respect Calapri for a lot of things, but I did respect him on how he handled playing time last year. It was a gimmick so he could seem equitable and so he wouldn't have to deal with complaints about playing time. It was a cop out and really poor coaching. |
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Post by prhoya on Aug 5, 2015 8:37:26 GMT -5
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Post by lancasterhoyafan on Aug 5, 2015 8:41:14 GMT -5
This is the most depth we have had under JTIII in my opinion. Purely speculating but I think 3 goes deep into the bench in games that he needs to. ie. foul trouble, cold shooting, defensive/offensive droughts, light a fire under someone's rear, rest, and provide experience.
My projected starters: DSR, Peak, White, Copeland, Govan
Quality bench minutes: Agau, Campbell, Hayes, Derrickson, Johnson
Spare bench minutes if needed: Cameron, Mourning
Clean up duty: Williams, Allen
I'm salivating at the options and rotations that JTIII has in his arsenal. I can only imagine how he feels. This is gonna be a fun year.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 5, 2015 8:49:50 GMT -5
A platoon doesn't make sense because our starting five (plus the first few off the bench) are a good bit better than everybody else. A platoon would only make sense if you had two sets of 5 about equal guys, which we don't have.
It would be crazy, for example, for DSR to only play 20 minutes a game because of a platoon. He's clearly the best shooter we have (certainly among guards) and he should play as much as possible within reason.
JT3 does use a deeper bench when he has the talent to warrant it. I do think that we may go deeper than in the past but I wouldn't expect anything remotely resembling a platoon.
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Post by JB5 on Aug 5, 2015 9:17:02 GMT -5
Campbell, Agau and Derrickson will get significant minutes off the bench because they will be able to contribute. If one of them has a hot hand (as did Bowen in MSG vs. Indiana for example), they will play more than some of the starters. Hayes should see more time but will still be a backup for when the other bigs run into foul trouble, similar to Moses in his last season. Cameron and Johnson should only see spot minutes. They can both contribute, but there are better options this year. I think Johnson will be valuable in time, but see him as the next Trawick/Bowen/Crawford, all guys I loved, but who played little as freshmen.
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Post by TBird41 on Aug 5, 2015 9:31:30 GMT -5
Why would we go platoon when that was probably the reason UK didn't win the 'ship last year. Most analysts believe UK goes undefeated if they had given up on the platoon system..... They did give up on the platoon system once Poythress blew out his knee. By the Wisconsin game, UK only played 7 guys double digit minutes. They lost becase they went into prevent/iso offense and stopped scoring against a team that was way too good at offense for UK to run the clock out on |
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Post by kchoya on Aug 5, 2015 10:23:19 GMT -5
Why would we go platoon when that was probably the reason UK didn't win the 'ship last year. Most analysts believe UK goes undefeated if they had given up on the platoon system..... They did give up on the platoon system once Poythress blew out his knee. By the Wisconsin game, UK only played 7 guys double digit minutes. They lost becase they went into prevent/iso offense and stopped scoring against a team that was way too good at offense for UK to run the clock out on This. UK was undefeated until losing in the Final Four. They lost to a very very good Wisconsin team. No one believes they lost that game because of the platoon system. |
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Post by DanMcQ on Aug 5, 2015 11:06:08 GMT -5
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Post by hoyazeke on Aug 5, 2015 14:36:35 GMT -5
Why would we go platoon when that was probably the reason UK didn't win the 'ship last year. Most analysts believe UK goes undefeated if they had given up on the platoon system..... Didn't UK make it to the Final 4. Also Calapari Stated early in the season that he had a lot of guys who deserved to play and who was going to make every to get them on the court. Another point that he made was "How would you feel if it was your kid not playing." I don't respect Calapri for a lot of things, but I did respect him on how he handled playing time last year. They had 9 MDs AAs. The FF should be a given....... I personally would steer my child away from a super stacked team. I have strong feelings about the 5* kid that needs 8 other 5* kids to win...... |
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