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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 8, 2015 21:37:58 GMT -5
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Post by kchoya on Jul 8, 2015 22:15:34 GMT -5
Can't imagine he ran that by ESPN's attorneys before he posted it. Not sure why he couldn't just report the amputation. Don't think the screenshots add that much.
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Post by TC on Jul 9, 2015 10:12:12 GMT -5
If we consider any part of sports reporting "journalism", Shefter's doing his job.
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Post by Elvado on Jul 9, 2015 10:14:58 GMT -5
Clearly it was not JPP's middle finger which he has been busy giving to the Giants.
As for ESPN? Is anyone really surprised at a lack of ethics in Bristol?
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 9, 2015 11:04:35 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 9, 2015 11:13:43 GMT -5
A good synopsis of the past 24 hours of sports social media. osgsports.sportsblog.com/posts/2801092/when-sports-twitter-attacks.htmlSchefter could have just as easily "done his job" without tweeting a picture of leaked private medical records. That's the unethical part and no, it does not surprise me in regards to ESPN, but it did surprise me in regards to Schefter. This was way over the line and it has nothing to do with whether it was legal for him to do it.
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Post by TC on Jul 9, 2015 11:22:44 GMT -5
I think you have a better argument that Shefter was unethical in posting the photos because it basically burned a source. The records he posted didn't really contain any personal information (SS #, phone #, address) that could have been a privacy concern. His source likely now gets into a heap of trouble which they wouldn't had he dialed it back. If the issue that you see with this is HIPAA privacy, then I'm not sure that someone who is leaking medical records getting in trouble bothers you that much.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 9, 2015 11:30:47 GMT -5
Schefter was unethical in posting personal medical records on several levels, not the least of which is that his source WILL be discovered (because today's EMRs have detailed records of who looked at a record and when), fired, and fined; the hospital will be fined and likely sued. He could have protected all of that and had his scoop without the grandstand play of posting the picture.
Just curious: what part of "PIERREPAUL, JASON" is not personal information? I'm sure there are at least 100 people within 100 miles of Jackson Hospital with that name.
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Post by njhoya78 on Jul 9, 2015 12:28:52 GMT -5
The HIPAA violations are clearly on the shoulders of the hospital, and of the personnel involved. Schefter is doing his job as an investigative journalist. Sometimes investigative journalists are unethical in the manner in which they obtain their information.
I wonder whether the Pierre-Paul family may have been complicit in the release of this information. Typically medical records can be accessed by family members online (at least here in New Jersey) through the use of an access code; it is not beyond the realm of possibility that the family, or a representative of the family, provided Schefter with this access code. If the access code was provided by a family member or representative to Schefter, there is no HIPAA violation.
That having been typed, it is very curious that JPP and his family never got the New York Giants' medical staff involved in the entire process. Maybe I'm wrong, but I think if I were in that situation, I would have to believe that the medical services available through the Giants is probably a little better than those available to JPP at Jackson Memorial in Florida.
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Post by kchoya on Jul 9, 2015 12:36:22 GMT -5
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think if I were in that situation, I would have to believe that the medical services available through the Giants is probably a little better than those available to JPP at Jackson Memorial in Florida. What's wrong with Jackson Memorial? There are good hospitals outside of the NYC metro area.
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Post by kchoya on Jul 9, 2015 12:38:34 GMT -5
The records he posted didn't really contain any personal information (SS #, phone #, address) that could have been a privacy concern. I don't think you understand what "privacy" means (at least in this context).
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 9, 2015 12:40:39 GMT -5
A good synopsis of the past 24 hours of sports social media. osgsports.sportsblog.com/posts/2801092/when-sports-twitter-attacks.htmlSchefter could have just as easily "done his job" without tweeting a picture of leaked private medical records. That's the unethical part and no, it does not surprise me in regards to ESPN, but it did surprise me in regards to Schefter. This was way over the line and it has nothing to do with whether it was legal for him to do it. There are people ESPN will fight to protect, but Adam Schefter is probably not one of them. With all the cost-cutting going on in Bristol, I wouldn't be surprised if severance talks are in motion.
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Post by kchoya on Jul 9, 2015 12:43:37 GMT -5
A good synopsis of the past 24 hours of sports social media. osgsports.sportsblog.com/posts/2801092/when-sports-twitter-attacks.htmlSchefter could have just as easily "done his job" without tweeting a picture of leaked private medical records. That's the unethical part and no, it does not surprise me in regards to ESPN, but it did surprise me in regards to Schefter. This was way over the line and it has nothing to do with whether it was legal for him to do it. There are people ESPN will fight to protect, but Adam Schefter is probably not one of them. With all the cost-cutting going on in Bristol, I wouldn't be surprised if severance talks are in motion. I doubt they'll can Schefter over this. I agree with your first point though. How Berman is still employed is beyond me. "JPP's finger is going back, back, back..."
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 9, 2015 12:49:48 GMT -5
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Post by njhoya78 on Jul 9, 2015 13:16:57 GMT -5
Maybe I'm wrong, but I think if I were in that situation, I would have to believe that the medical services available through the Giants is probably a little better than those available to JPP at Jackson Memorial in Florida. What's wrong with Jackson Memorial? There are good hospitals outside of the NYC metro area. I'm not criticizing the level of care provided at Jackson Memorial. When a team has a multi-million dollar investment in a professional athlete, merely going to a good hospital isn't enough; why do so many pitchers travel to Birmingham, Alabama to have Dr. James Andrews check out their elbows and shoulders, instead of merely staying with the local medical establishment? You go for the best available care. As a New Jersey resident (if you go due east from Philadelphia and due south from New York CIty, I live at the intersection of those paths), I have plenty of good hospitals around. That being the case, if I had a critical issue, I'd be traveling to Philly or NYC. Again, you go for the best available care. JPP had those options open to him. Not sure why he chose to do this on this own, without team involvement or assistance.
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Post by TC on Jul 9, 2015 13:24:58 GMT -5
Schefter was unethical in posting personal medical records on several levels, not the least of which is that his source WILL be discovered (because today's EMRs have detailed records of who looked at a record and when), fired, and fined; the hospital will be fined and likely sued. He could have protected all of that and had his scoop without the grandstand play of posting the picture. Just curious: what part of "PIERREPAUL, JASON" is not personal information? I'm sure there are at least 100 people within 100 miles of Jackson Hospital with that name. It's the name of the player he's reporting on. Unless he's got the medical record of the wrong 26 year old Jason Pierre-Paul, what's the issue?
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Post by kchoya on Jul 9, 2015 13:40:19 GMT -5
Schefter was unethical in posting personal medical records on several levels, not the least of which is that his source WILL be discovered (because today's EMRs have detailed records of who looked at a record and when), fired, and fined; the hospital will be fined and likely sued. He could have protected all of that and had his scoop without the grandstand play of posting the picture. Just curious: what part of "PIERREPAUL, JASON" is not personal information? I'm sure there are at least 100 people within 100 miles of Jackson Hospital with that name. It's the name of the player he's reporting on. Unless he's got the medical record of the wrong 26 year old Jason Pierre-Paul, what's the issue? What's the name of the 65-year-old dude having an ORIF on his left wrist? You're ok with people sending out screenshots of the schedule for the OR at your local hospital?
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Post by kchoya on Jul 9, 2015 13:44:50 GMT -5
What's wrong with Jackson Memorial? There are good hospitals outside of the NYC metro area. I'm not criticizing the level of care provided at Jackson Memorial. When a team has a multi-million dollar investment in a professional athlete, merely going to a good hospital isn't enough; why do so many pitchers travel to Birmingham, Alabama to have Dr. James Andrews check out their elbows and shoulders, instead of merely staying with the local medical establishment? You go for the best available care. As a New Jersey resident (if you go due east from Philadelphia and due south from New York CIty, I live at the intersection of those paths), I have plenty of good hospitals around. That being the case, if I had a critical issue, I'd be traveling to Philly or NYC. Again, you go for the best available care. JPP had those options open to him. Not sure why he chose to do this on this own, without team involvement or assistance. Andrews is an anomaly. He's the best in the country and everyone goes to him. Not a good example. What if there was a hospital/surgeon in Los Angeles that was slight better than what was available in NYC? Would you go all the way to LA? No, you go to what's [relatively] local. That's my point. For a finger amputations, "minor" skin graft and insertion of pins in a thumb, I think the standard of care at Jackson is the equivalent of that in NYC or Philly or other big cities. If he was having a knee reconstructed or brain surgery, that might be different. There are lots of issues with this incident. The quality of JPP's medical care is not one of them.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jul 9, 2015 14:16:28 GMT -5
Schefter was unethical in posting personal medical records on several levels, not the least of which is that his source WILL be discovered (because today's EMRs have detailed records of who looked at a record and when), fired, and fined; the hospital will be fined and likely sued. He could have protected all of that and had his scoop without the grandstand play of posting the picture. Just curious: what part of "PIERREPAUL, JASON" is not personal information? I'm sure there are at least 100 people within 100 miles of Jackson Hospital with that name. It's the name of the player he's reporting on. Unless he's got the medical record of the wrong 26 year old Jason Pierre-Paul, what's the issue? The issue is exactly that: tweeting out a snapshot of a medical record with THE PATIENT'S NAME on it is a HIPAA violation (yes, technically, Ace Reporter Schefter is not bound by HIPAA, he is only bound by whatever common decency and ethics he may or may not have). When you say above there has been no privacy violation, you are dead wrong from a HIPAA perspective. That's the issue.
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