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Post by IDenj on Aug 13, 2015 12:48:09 GMT -5
Here's hoping.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 13, 2015 16:00:33 GMT -5
PRETTY PLEASE PLEASE WITH A CHERY ON TOP....
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Aug 15, 2015 18:08:50 GMT -5
IMO, looking at the make-up of this team going forward we would greatly benefit from the services of Mr. Hunter. He would not be my last piece to the puzzle but at this moment he would be my main focus for the next commitment. We will no doubt need and could greatly benefit from getting another 7' foot shot blocker but the need is Hunter. With the reduction of the shot clock we need a another athletic ball handler who can get into the paint and shoot over smaller defenders with ease. Hunter first, another 7' footer, and maybe another guard. www.verbalcommits.com/schools/georgetown
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 16, 2015 18:34:20 GMT -5
We're out of the running for DeAndre Hunter! He dropped his top 11 schools. No Georgetown! Big loss for us but I'm sure it will workout for us in the end. We will get somebody else. I thought this kid was a perfect fit for what we would have coming back and playing alongside Jagan Mosely. I guess the staff valued Curtis Jones and Bruce Brown over DeAndre Hunter or he wasn't interested in becoming a Hoya. I think it was more the staff decision then D. Hunter because in June He mentioned the Hoyas constantly as one of 3 schools recruiting him the hardest before we offered. I can't believe Villanova and Notre Dame made his final list. He will be a 4/PF at Nova. If the kid picks the right school (not Nova), he will be a stud and could develop into NBA All Star one day. Good luck to the kid!
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 16, 2015 18:36:46 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaboya on Aug 16, 2015 20:22:19 GMT -5
We're out of the running for DeAndre Hunter! He dropped his top 11 schools. No Georgetown! Big loss for us but I'm sure it will workout for us in the end. We will get somebody else. I thought this kid was a perfect fit for what we would have coming back and playing alongside Jagan Mosely. I guess the staff valued Curtis Jones and Bruce Brown over DeAndre Hunter or he wasn't interested in becoming a Hoya. I think it was more the staff decision then D. Hunter because in June He mentioned the Hoyas constantly as one of 3 schools recruiting him the hardest before we offered. I can't believe Villanova and Notre Dame made his final list. He will be a 4/PF at Nova. If the kid picks the right school (not Nova), he will be a stud and could develop into NBA All Star one day. Good luck to the kid! Not exactly a murderers row in terms of schools we'd be competing against for his services, either. Bummer...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 0:51:47 GMT -5
Not unexpected but would be nice..
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 17, 2015 1:30:43 GMT -5
I have to believe that the staff didn't prioritize Hunter based on his list and when some of the schools offered. SMU, Arizona St., Notre Dame, and Alabama offered after we did. The Hoyas were linked to Hunter as far back as late May along with Miami. We offered around the same time as Villanova and Uconn and less then a week after Virginia offered Hunter. Just have to believe the staff didn't make him a priority which is a shame considering how talented and what upside this kid has. IMO he was a better version of Greg Whittington at the same age. Would have been great fit next to Mosely. Ohh well! Article on DeAndre Hunter from June where he discusses Georgetown
“Schools that have been in touch the most are Miami, Georgetown, St. Joe’s, and N.C. State,” Hunter said before picking up the St. John’s offer. “I just want to go to a school I like. Play in a system I like. A coach I can get along with. I think that will help me get better, a school that will make me better.” When asked specifically about the Hoyas, Hunter said “Georgetown. I saw them play a couple times on TV. I really like how they play. I met the coaching staff a couple times.” To not make his final list tells me the staff was focused elsewhere...
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Post by EtomicB on Aug 17, 2015 9:17:31 GMT -5
I have to believe that the staff didn't prioritize Hunter based on his list and when some of the schools offered. SMU, Arizona St., Notre Dame, and Alabama offered after we did. The Hoyas were linked to Hunter as far back as late May along with Miami. We offered around the same time as Villanova and Uconn and less then a week after Virginia offered Hunter. Just have to believe the staff didn't make him a priority which is a shame considering how talented and what upside this kid has. IMO he was a better version of Greg Whittington at the same age. Would have been great fit next to Mosely. Ohh well! Article on DeAndre Hunter from June where he discusses Georgetown
“Schools that have been in touch the most are Miami, Georgetown, St. Joe’s, and N.C. State,” Hunter said before picking up the St. John’s offer. “I just want to go to a school I like. Play in a system I like. A coach I can get along with. I think that will help me get better, a school that will make me better.” When asked specifically about the Hoyas, Hunter said “Georgetown. I saw them play a couple times on TV. I really like how they play. I met the coaching staff a couple times.” To not make his final list tells me the staff was focused elsewhere... Very few on the board are as hard on the staff about recruiting as I am.. Having said that, I don't think they did anything wrong in Hunter's recruitment.. The time between May and August in the recruiting season should be measured in dog years, other schools entered the picture & Gtown faded out.. The staff knew he was a long shot and moved on early, I applaud them for doing that. Honestly I don't know why he just didn't cut it down to 5 right now, why waste folks time & energy? His final 5 will be Maryland, Nova, ND, Virginia & either St. Joes or Uconn Imho..
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Post by seaweed on Aug 17, 2015 9:18:58 GMT -5
That is not exactly a huge embrace of GU - saw them on tv and met coach? It's quite possible the kids was nota good fit or interested in the whole GU experience.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Aug 17, 2015 10:29:23 GMT -5
Also, it's impossible to stay on every kid all the time. Obviously, we don't have anything remotely resembling transparency into Georgetown's recruiting priorities, etc., but sometimes the staff probably sees a kid and backs away as a matter of having to make choices among many guys.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 10:31:06 GMT -5
I have to believe that the staff didn't prioritize Hunter based on his list and when some of the schools offered. SMU, Arizona St., Notre Dame, and Alabama offered after we did. The Hoyas were linked to Hunter as far back as late May along with Miami. We offered around the same time as Villanova and Uconn and less then a week after Virginia offered Hunter. Just have to believe the staff didn't make him a priority which is a shame considering how talented and what upside this kid has. IMO he was a better version of Greg Whittington at the same age. Would have been great fit next to Mosely. Ohh well! Article on DeAndre Hunter from June where he discusses Georgetown
“Schools that have been in touch the most are Miami, Georgetown, St. Joe’s, and N.C. State,” Hunter said before picking up the St. John’s offer. “I just want to go to a school I like. Play in a system I like. A coach I can get along with. I think that will help me get better, a school that will make me better.” When asked specifically about the Hoyas, Hunter said “Georgetown. I saw them play a couple times on TV. I really like how they play. I met the coaching staff a couple times.” To not make his final list tells me the staff was focused elsewhere... Very few on the board are as hard on the staff about recruiting as I am.. Having said that, I don't think they did anything wrong in Hunter's recruitment.. The time between May and August in the recruiting season should be measured in dog years, other schools entered the picture & Gtown faded out.. The staff knew he was a long shot and moved on early, I applaud them for doing that. Honestly I don't know why he just didn't cut it down to 5 right now, why waste folks time & energy? His final 5 will be Maryland, Nova, ND, Virginia & either St. Joes or Uconn Imho.. Totally disagree... Should have never left his visit without an offer and if Gtown recruited him we would be on that list. No idea why you consider this kid a long shot, he talked very favorable of the program in a few articles not just one and has already visited. None of the schools on his list are intimidating. They slow played him, didn't offer and didn't really make him a priority, that's why we are not in it... That's fine, it's their roster and apparently didn't think he was the correct fit..
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Post by EtomicB on Aug 17, 2015 12:25:54 GMT -5
Very few on the board are as hard on the staff about recruiting as I am.. Having said that, I don't think they did anything wrong in Hunter's recruitment.. The time between May and August in the recruiting season should be measured in dog years, other schools entered the picture & Gtown faded out.. The staff knew he was a long shot and moved on early, I applaud them for doing that. Honestly I don't know why he just didn't cut it down to 5 right now, why waste folks time & energy? His final 5 will be Maryland, Nova, ND, Virginia & either St. Joes or Uconn Imho.. Totally disagree... Should have never left his visit without an offer and if Gtown recruited him we would be on that list. No idea why you consider this kid a long shot, he talked very favorable of the program in a few articles not just one and has already visited. None of the schools on his list are intimidating. They slow played him, didn't offer and didn't really make him a priority, that's why we are not in it... That's fine, it's their roster and apparently didn't think he was the correct fit.. You're right they should have offered on his unofficial, that was a mistake on their part but in fairness there was a Rivals article written by a Maryland guy on June 24th where Hunter mentioned that G'town was recruiting him as hard as anyone even though they didn't offer.. So the staff was working hard for him in late June.. After July hit and his recruitment jumped there were no further mentions of G'town and I think that's when the staff bowed out.. Even the 247 article written last week wasn't anything to get excited about.. After his July jump that's when I believe he became a long shot.. He spoke favorably about NC State, UNLV & St. Johns too but they didn't make his final list either.. Hell, NC State offered in 2014 while he was still injured and he still cut them.. Folks can say his list isn't intimidating but the schools I listed above are all pulling quality kids, even if the staff made the cut it would have been far from over imo..
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 13:17:14 GMT -5
Totally disagree... Should have never left his visit without an offer and if Gtown recruited him we would be on that list. No idea why you consider this kid a long shot, he talked very favorable of the program in a few articles not just one and has already visited. None of the schools on his list are intimidating. They slow played him, didn't offer and didn't really make him a priority, that's why we are not in it... That's fine, it's their roster and apparently didn't think he was the correct fit.. You're right they should have offered on his unofficial, that was a mistake on their part but in fairness there was a Rivals article written by a Maryland guy on June 24th where Hunter mentioned that G'town was recruiting him as hard as anyone even though they didn't offer.. So the staff was working hard for him in late June.. After July hit and his recruitment jumped there were no further mentions of G'town and I think that's when the staff bowed out.. Even the 247 article written last week wasn't anything to get excited about.. After his July jump that's when I believe he became a long shot.. He spoke favorably about NC State, UNLV & St. Johns too but they didn't make his final list either.. Hell, NC State offered in 2014 while he was still injured and he still cut them.. Folks can say his list isn't intimidating but the schools I listed above are all pulling quality kids, even if the staff made the cut it would have been far from over imo.. Gtown got more mentions than all those schools (without an offer) and is a better program. You honestly believe a kid without an offer who lists you in a top 4 isn't interested, and that Gtown wouldn't be square in the mix here if they would have chose to pursue? They decided to pursue other prospects, that's fine but to say they played it perfectly is only accurate if they were trying their best not to land the kid..
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Aug 17, 2015 14:34:48 GMT -5
Very few on the board are as hard on the staff about recruiting as I am.. Having said that, I don't think they did anything wrong in Hunter's recruitment.. The time between May and August in the recruiting season should be measured in dog years, other schools entered the picture & Gtown faded out.. The staff knew he was a long shot and moved on early, I applaud them for doing that. Honestly I don't know why he just didn't cut it down to 5 right now, why waste folks time & energy? His final 5 will be Maryland, Nova, ND, Virginia & either St. Joes or Uconn Imho.. Totally disagree... Should have never left his visit without an offer and if Gtown recruited him we would be on that list. No idea why you consider this kid a long shot, he talked very favorable of the program in a few articles not just one and has already visited. None of the schools on his list are intimidating. They slow played him, didn't offer and didn't really make him a priority, that's why we are not in it... That's fine, it's their roster and apparently didn't think he was the correct fit.. Exactly! DeAndre Hunter came on unofficial visit meaning he paid his own way to get to DC. He didn't come to the area that weekend do see Georgetown, GW & Maryland. He came up to see Georgetown only. So the kid was obviously very interested. Also, I'm not sure if your aware of how these interviews are typically done by a recruiting sites or blogs. They typically ask the same question like "who have you been in contact with? Who has recently offered you and what do you think about them? Who's recruiting you the hardest and who are you planning to visit officially or unofficially?". Based on your answer and reaction do they follow up and ask specific questions like "Oh Georgetown is recruiting you very hard, what do you like about them. They didn't ask him about him about Miami, Temple (who had already offered and he stated was also recruiting him very hard), Villanova, Virginia or any other schools that made his final 11. No one on his final list is a flat out a better program then Georgetown, or better academically so that didn't play a part in not make his final 11. Half of the list wasn't even mentioned back in late June. Meaning we had a huge head start on the kid. YaBoy was 10000% right that he should have never left campus on his unofficial visit without an offer. Then to offer him over a month later in early August while offers are going out to class of 17 & 18 kids before he gets an offer after he even visited could lead to some doubt in the kids head about a program and also allow for some schools to negatively recruit a kid and say that Georgetown staff doesn't see you as a priority. The staff definitely slow played the kid and it cost us. I'm not criticizing the staff because maybe they know something we are not aware of. I'm sure in the long run we will be fine. I like Hunter! I think if he picks the right school, he could be special. I also think that its quite obvious the staff didn't prioritize Hunter because if they had we would have easily made his final 11. Not saying we would have definitely gotten the kid to commit but would have made his final 11 if he was a priority.
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Aug 17, 2015 16:21:11 GMT -5
I wonder if Kodye Pugh played into the slow play of Hunter's recruitment, we were on Pugh pretty hard it seems until he changed class. It seems IMO we were tracking Pugh's development and didn't see the forest for the tees.
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Post by stafford72 on Aug 17, 2015 17:25:09 GMT -5
This is all pointless speculation. The fact that he posted a select list of ELEVEN schools proves how mercurial the thought processes of a 17 year old can be. Lots of fish in the sea.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2015 17:45:41 GMT -5
I wonder if Kodye Pugh played into the slow play of Hunter's recruitment, we were on Pugh pretty hard it seems until he changed class. It seems IMO we were tracking Pugh's development and didn't see the forest for the tees. Doubtful... more likely they prioritized sg or cg over a sf type who could develop into a sg... kid is probably the best shooter out of the bunch though
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Post by professorhoya on Aug 17, 2015 18:11:38 GMT -5
Well he's from Philly. (Didn't go to the same Friends schools as Jabril: Central vs Abingdon).
We kind of have a log jam at the wing spots of small forward and shooting guard and it's uncertain if Peak leaves or stays right now. Already have Kaleb Johnson as well at the same position. Just doesn't look like a good fit for him from a PT perspective or for us whose priority is more of a combo guy/ball handler like Jones or Brown.
At least he let us know early so we can focus our time and efforts on other guys who want to be here.
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Post by jld54 on Aug 17, 2015 18:25:47 GMT -5
Well he's from Philly. (Didn't go to the same Friends schools as Jabril: Central vs Abingdon). We kind of have a log jam at the wing spots of small forward and shooting guard and it's uncertain if Peak leaves or stays right now. Already have Kaleb Johnson as well at the same position. Just doesn't look like a good fit for him from a PT perspective or for us whose priority is more of a combo guy/ball handler like Jones or Brown. At least he let us know early so we can focus our time and efforts on other guys who want to be here. I think this analysis is accurate. And beyond Peak and Kaleb, it seems that Dickerson is projecting as a SF/PF who can hit the 3. While Hunter has great potential, our priorities after landing Mosely are another guard or even two, and hopefully a big to back up/compliment Govan. I think that the staff is on target to develop a deep, versatile team that can match up every game depending upon need. I hated those Pitt, Marquette and WVU teams that had waves of athletic guys that caused depth and match up fits for us. If the staff has settled on this as a model it is a good fit for GU. In this true one and done era, we never will, or should be, a Kentucky, Kansas, Duke or NC that can reload very year with one and dones. A model like Wisconsin where we have solid depth at every position with three and four year players, and hit it with a top 10 NBA pick like a Monroe, Otto, and a Keldon Johnson in a few years, is the key.
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