CaliHoya
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Post by CaliHoya on May 15, 2015 14:43:23 GMT -5
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Post by CaliHoya on May 15, 2015 14:49:11 GMT -5
At first glance, these changes look great! I think the key is that refs actually get better about stopping the holding and physical play that is limiting player movement. The college game needs to get closer to the NBA in that regard
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Post by seaweed on May 15, 2015 15:33:24 GMT -5
III likes to use his timeouts around media time outs to get expanded rest periods. He will not appreciate that the NCAA now wants to change the rules so that any team time out taken 30 seconds before or anytime after the media timeout is due will automatically become the media time out (while still of course being charged as a team TO). The rest looks pretty mundane.
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Post by SirSaxa on May 15, 2015 16:09:37 GMT -5
The two points mentioned above would be counter-productive. "Eliminate Physical Play" but give each player 6 fouls. The BE tried that and it was a miserable failure. No reason to go to 6 fouls.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on May 15, 2015 17:30:25 GMT -5
The two points mentioned above would be counter-productive. "Eliminate Physical Play" but give each player 6 fouls. The BE tried that and it was a miserable failure. No reason to go to 6 fouls. Exactly. It became even more of a foularama.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on May 15, 2015 18:38:29 GMT -5
I am opposed to the 30 second clock since I like to see good defenses and don't want the NCAA to be merely an almost NBA look-alike.
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Post by gutuna on May 15, 2015 19:58:25 GMT -5
I am opposed to the 30 second clock since I like to see good defenses and don't want the NCAA to be merely an almost NBA look-alike. Which is why I am in favor. Less time is five seconds less a good defense needs to be defend for.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on May 15, 2015 23:05:58 GMT -5
I think the 30 seconds helps the Hoyas. It forces you to take a good shot and not wait for a perfect one.
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Post by kchoya on May 16, 2015 6:38:23 GMT -5
I am opposed to the 30 second clock since I like to see good defenses and don't want the NCAA to be merely an almost NBA look-alike. You want to bring back peach baskets too? There's a difference between good defense, and bad offense.
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Post by SSHoya on May 16, 2015 6:58:59 GMT -5
I am opposed to the 30 second clock since I like to see good defenses and don't want the NCAA to be merely an almost NBA look-alike. You want to bring back peach baskets too? There's a difference between good defense, and bad offense. Bring back the cage!
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Post by EasyEd on May 16, 2015 9:17:10 GMT -5
I like watching the college game much more than the pros. In the college game what you mostly see is team basketball on both offense and defense whereas, in the pros, the offense consists of a few dribbles, a couple of passes and a shot, usually from the best shooters on the team. That's obviously a bit of an over-statement. On offense, in the college game we see more teamwork, with more passing and the ability to strategize more. On defense, the college game requires a team to work more closely as a team and to maintain it longer. There is a beauty to that. The pros can have great defense (or not) but doesn't have to maintain it as long.
What I do like about the pros is the exceptional ability of individual players. It's exciting to watch James, Davis, Curry and others display their talents. But, for pure enjoyment, give me the college game any day.
As for the peach baskets, I prefer tomato baskets. We empty the baskets just before game time and throw them at the opponents and watch how good their defense it. For 35 seconds.
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Post by Talos on May 16, 2015 10:52:20 GMT -5
At first glance, these changes look great! I think the key is that refs actually get better about stopping the holding and physical play that is limiting player movement. The college game needs to get closer to the NBA in that regard I think the most important thing to address is the ridiculous lack of consistency in college officiating. Guys get mauled under the basket and no call, and then you breathe on a ballhandler 30 feet from the basket and it's a foul.
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Post by CaliHoya on May 16, 2015 10:53:18 GMT -5
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 16, 2015 13:42:11 GMT -5
I actually prefer halves instead of quarters. What would be the benefit of quarters? If anything it seems like it might slow the game down.
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Post by SFHoya99 on May 16, 2015 13:54:49 GMT -5
Why is any of that great stuff?
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Post by kchoya on May 16, 2015 17:00:55 GMT -5
I like watching the college game much more than the pros. In the college game what you mostly see is team basketball on both offense and defense whereas, in the pros, the offense consists of a few dribbles, a couple of passes and a shot, usually from the best shooters on the team. That's obviously a bit of an over-statement. On offense, in the college game we see more teamwork, with more passing and the ability to strategize more. On defense, the college game requires a team to work more closely as a team and to maintain it longer. There is a beauty to that. The pros can have great defense (or not) but doesn't have to maintain it as long. What I do like about the pros is the exceptional ability of individual players. It's exciting to watch James, Davis, Curry and others display their talents. But, for pure enjoyment, give me the college game any day. As for the peach baskets, I prefer tomato baskets. We empty the baskets just before game time and throw them at the opponents and watch how good their defense it. For 35 seconds. I guess you've never watched the Spurs.
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Post by hoyainspirit on May 16, 2015 17:10:16 GMT -5
I like watching the college game much more than the pros. In the college game what you mostly see is team basketball on both offense and defense whereas, in the pros, the offense consists of a few dribbles, a couple of passes and a shot, usually from the best shooters on the team. That's obviously a bit of an over-statement. On offense, in the college game we see more teamwork, with more passing and the ability to strategize more. On defense, the college game requires a team to work more closely as a team and to maintain it longer. There is a beauty to that. The pros can have great defense (or not) but doesn't have to maintain it as long. What I do like about the pros is the exceptional ability of individual players. It's exciting to watch James, Davis, Curry and others display their talents. But, for pure enjoyment, give me the college game any day. As for the peach baskets, I prefer tomato baskets. We empty the baskets just before game time and throw them at the opponents and watch how good their defense it. For 35 seconds. I guess you've never watched the Spurs. Or, as much as I hate them, Golden State. But I'm with Ed, for many of the reasons he stated. I do like the college game better, but, unlike Ed, I want a 30 sec clock.
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Post by justsaying on May 17, 2015 10:43:29 GMT -5
the 5 second closely guarded count being eliminated will increase the ball possession time at the guard position for many teams; will be interesting to see how this will affect GU's offensive sets along with the decrease in offensive shot shot clock time. the need to get the most good shots for the total time of possession i feel just ups the notch s little more for assist to turnover to shot ratio (guard emphasis).
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Post by bicentennial on May 17, 2015 11:20:48 GMT -5
Offensively this penalizes teams that currently do well in the last 5 seconds of the shot clock. We have often been one of those teams. Defensively it does reward good defense and tall teams both of which we will be next year. While this will increase the pace of games it will be interesting to see at the college level whether it leads to very low efficiency.
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Post by FLHoya on May 17, 2015 13:13:40 GMT -5
Offensively this penalizes teams that currently do well in the last 5 seconds of the shot clock. We have often been one of those teams. Fortunately, the rule changes would not eliminate the last 5 seconds of the shot clock.
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