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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 22:55:18 GMT -5
Didn't get a chance to go, but it seems like a fun time was had by all.
A couple of photos on the @georgetownhoops twitter feed, and a nice season recap video here:
Josh was not in attendance for some reason.
Ben Standig @benstandig Leaving Hoyas hoops banquet. 2 things: 1)Josh Smith not there and not mentioned with seniors. 2) Kevin Broadus is a great MC.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 30, 2015 23:39:22 GMT -5
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on May 1, 2015 6:18:21 GMT -5
Where was Josh?
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Post by DanMcQ on May 1, 2015 7:42:21 GMT -5
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Post by hoyainspirit on May 1, 2015 8:03:00 GMT -5
The Josh thing is puzzling...
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Post by HometownHoya on May 1, 2015 8:16:57 GMT -5
The Josh thing is puzzling... From the Casual recap: "Not in attendance, however, was senior Hoyas center Joshua Smith, who was not mentioned among the Hoyas seniors and whose only reference came when coach John Thompson III quickly mentioned that Smith was off "getting ready for the next part of his life" and then quickly suggested moving on." Good luck to the kid. Hope he doesn't affect our APR.
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Post by nychoya3 on May 1, 2015 8:47:20 GMT -5
Has LJ ever smiled? Just like on the court, he is reliably all business.
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Post by SirSaxa on May 1, 2015 8:53:51 GMT -5
The Josh thing is puzzling... Especially because Coach didn't seem to want to talk about it, and it comes after his failure to show at that Portsmouth NBA event. Everyone here can speculate about what and why, but whatever the circumstances the outcome is, at best, disappointing.
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Post by aleutianhoya on May 1, 2015 8:56:43 GMT -5
The Josh thing is puzzling... Especially because Coach didn't seem to want to talk about it, and it comes after his failure to show at that Portsmouth NBA event. Everyone here can speculate about what and why, but whatever the circumstances the outcome is, at best, disappointing. I've defended him as much or more than anyone. But unless there was a really good reason to not be there (and if there were, you would think Coach would have told everyone what it was), it is very disappointing.
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Post by rockhoya on May 1, 2015 9:10:19 GMT -5
The Josh thing is puzzling... Especially because Coach didn't seem to want to talk about it, and it comes after his failure to show at that Portsmouth NBA event. Everyone here can speculate about what and why, but whatever the circumstances the outcome is, at best, disappointing. It's a failure to not go to Portsmouth these days?
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on May 1, 2015 9:18:20 GMT -5
I've also defended Josh a lot.
I don't care that he skipped portsmouth
I don't care that he skipped the basketball banquet.
I do care that he is apparently not graduating. That's sad. I hope he comes back and earns his degree sooner rather than later.
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Post by guru on May 1, 2015 9:23:36 GMT -5
I've also defended Josh a lot. I don't care that he skipped portsmouth I don't care that he skipped the basketball banquet. I do care that he is apparently not graduating. That's sad. I hope he comes back and earns his degree sooner rather than later. From everything we have seen about the kid, that won't be happening. I understand why JT3 took a chance on this guy, but his time here was an abject failure, for all involved.
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Post by SFHoya99 on May 1, 2015 10:08:24 GMT -5
I've also defended Josh a lot. I don't care that he skipped portsmouth I don't care that he skipped the basketball banquet. I do care that he is apparently not graduating. That's sad. I hope he comes back and earns his degree sooner rather than later. From everything we have seen about the kid, that won't be happening. I understand why JT3 took a chance on this guy, but his time here was an abject failure, for all involved. The josh hate is strong with guru. This team was a bubble team without Josh last year. The only way to call it an abject failure is if you are extremely biased.
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Post by rockhoya on May 1, 2015 10:10:38 GMT -5
I've also defended Josh a lot. I don't care that he skipped portsmouth I don't care that he skipped the basketball banquet. I do care that he is apparently not graduating. That's sad. I hope he comes back and earns his degree sooner rather than later. From everything we have seen about the kid, that won't be happening. I understand why JT3 took a chance on this guy, but his time here was an abject failure, for all involved. Right....
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Post by guru on May 1, 2015 10:12:57 GMT -5
From everything we have seen about the kid, that won't be happening. I understand why JT3 took a chance on this guy, but his time here was an abject failure, for all involved. The josh hate is strong with guru. This team was a bubble team without Josh last year. The only way to call it an abject failure is if you are extremely biased. Hate is a strong word my man. But honestly, I'd rather be a bubble team than have a player as uninterested in the school and team as Josh Smith appeared to be. Maybe I'm 100% wrong. It's just, like, my opinion, man.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on May 1, 2015 10:32:31 GMT -5
I also admit to having defended Josh a lot, and it will be very disappointing if he doesn't graduate. I also hope he's not blowing off the last semester of classes which will hurt our APR. It's unfortunate, but I still don't think it was a failed experiment. A lot of people (including me) probably had too large expectations for him, but he did contribute and help us on the court despite his shortcomings. I still think it's smart that we took him as a transfer - there really was no downside.
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Post by calhoya on May 1, 2015 11:02:09 GMT -5
I have not defended Josh and have been a critic based upon watching him at UCLA for the two + years he was there. He did improve at Georgetown and hopefully he learned some life lessons and some basketball skills that will benefit him going forward. SFHoya is correct that he made a difference on the court when he played. However, while understanding the attraction to the coaches of a former 5 star recruit, I will always think that JT III tried to force the proverbial square peg into a round hole here. Josh's conditioning remained a major impediment to his success on the court, both on offense and defense. I hope for the kid's sake that he does not look back upon this experience someday as opportunity lost.
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Post by michaeldm9 on May 1, 2015 12:26:00 GMT -5
I have never been a Josh apologizer and thought the program(coaches) soled it's soul for the sake of Josh. They did it at the cost of Bradley Hayes development. But the funny thing it's not new in the saga of Josh Smith. The thing is that people keeping saying he improved. Please identify this improvement displayed by Josh. I am wondering, "Hope I am not violating boards rules", Did he finish the final semester out or did he stop attending school all together. I think that's something that would ruffle JTIII feathers after all he has tried to do for Josh. I just hope JTIII start committing to those players that commit the GTown.
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Post by KennaHoya on May 1, 2015 13:42:49 GMT -5
For me, it is sad to reflect on what Josh apparently will not do this semester, regardless of what occurred on the basketball court over the past two years - because it is detracting from an overwhelmingly positive message delivered by our senior players and even our senior manager. Mikael's speech was moving not just because of his thanks to his mother and sister, but because he clearly, with tears, was extremely appreciative of the opportunity he had to attend and graduate from Georgetown and be a part of the history of the program. Aaron Bowen's speech was even more moving to me - because he thanked JTIII profusely for giving him the opportunity to attend and get his degree from Georgetown - and for all five of his years at Georgetown. He clearly had a sense that he came to Georgetown at a risk - and in my view could not have expressed more appreciation for the faith the coaches, the counselors, and the school showed in him. Jabril similarly acknowledged his background and the challenge it posed to him as a potential student at Georgetown. And of course Tyler addressed the choices he had to make when some encouraged him to leave and try to play elsewhere - and his conviction that he made the right choice given his own attitude adjustment and the support he was provided over the years by JT III and the assistant coaches.
I do not have the time or the memory (age being the key factor and not the memorable nature of the speeches) to recite all of the details of what was said last night. But I think it would be a travesty to focus on Josh's absence, last night and at school if that be it, and ignore the overwhelming message of the evening - we had four seniors (five if you count the manager) who came to Georgetown and stayed for the full four (five if you count Aaron) years notwithstanding challenges that faced them from the age that they were children, and during their years at Georgetown, and will graduate with Georgetown degrees - earned each and every one. I thank them for the great basketball we saw from day one in China, a Big East regular season title, and so many thrilling games - most of them wins. I applaud them for their efforts on the court - but I admire them most for their efforts to overcome whatever they faced, and graduate with Georgetown degrees, with a full appreciation for the opportunity they were given and for the assistance they received from the coaches, the Currys, and many others. No offense to whoever wrote this, but to think that JT III and his assistants do not commit to those players who commit to Georgetown is looking 180 degrees in the wrong direction.
Thanks to the five men who stood up in front of hundreds of us Hoya fans and shared their personal stories - you earned being a part of Georgetown's history - and you made me proud of your edition of that history.
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Post by Filo on May 1, 2015 13:45:39 GMT -5
For me, it is sad to reflect on what Josh apparently will not do this semester, regardless of what occurred on the basketball court over the past two years - because it is detracting from an overwhelmingly positive message delivered by our senior players and even our senior manager. Mikael's speech was moving not just because of his thanks to his mother and sister, but because he clearly, with tears, was extremely appreciative of the opportunity he had to attend and graduate from Georgetown and be a part of the history of the program. Aaron Bowen's speech was even more moving to me - because he thanked JTIII profusely for giving him the opportunity to attend and get his degree from Georgetown - and for all five of his years at Georgetown. He clearly had a sense that he came to Georgetown at a risk - and in my view could not have expressed more appreciation for the faith the coaches, the counselors, and the school showed in him. Jabril similarly acknowledged his background and the challenge it posed to him as a potential student at Georgetown. And of course Tyler addressed the choices he had to make when some encouraged him to leave and try to play elsewhere - and his conviction that he made the right choice given his own attitude adjustment and the support he was provided over the years by JT III and the assistant coaches. I do not have the time or the memory (age being the key factor and not the memorable nature of the speeches) to recite all of the details of what was said last night. But I think it would be a travesty to focus on Josh's absence, last night and at school if that be it, and ignore the overwhelming message of the evening - we had four seniors (five if you count the manager) who came to Georgetown and stayed for the full four (five if you count Aaron) years notwithstanding challenges that faced them from the age that they were children, and during their years at Georgetown, and will graduate with Georgetown degrees - earned each and every one. I thank them for the great basketball we saw from day one in China, a Big East regular season title, and so many thrilling games - most of them wins. I applaud them for their efforts on the court - but I admire them most for their efforts to overcome whatever they faced, and graduate with Georgetown degrees, with a full appreciation for the opportunity they were given and for the assistance they received from the coaches, the Currys, and many others. No offense to whoever wrote this, but to think that JT III and his assistants do not commit to those players who commit to Georgetown is looking 180 degrees in the wrong direction. Thanks to the five men who stood up in front of hundreds of us Hoya fans and shared their personal stories - you earned being a part of Georgetown's history - and you made me proud of your edition of that history. Awesome awesome awesome post!!!
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