hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 12, 2015 19:15:56 GMT -5
Usher did a really nice job on the National Anthem tonight. Simple, true to the song, yet he made it his own. My all time favorite, however, is still Marvin Gaye's version at the 1983 NBA All Star game. I'm partial to Roseanne Barr and Carl Lewis myself.
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hoyarooter
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 15, 2015 19:36:01 GMT -5
Lose or lose (and they will), LeBron is the MVP of this series. There's precedent for a player from the losing team to be MVP (Jerry West), and I think it should happen here. Anyone who can still maintain that LeBron's legacy is somehow harmed by the Cavs losing this series is nuts.
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 16, 2015 22:43:24 GMT -5
What a snoozer.
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Post by Elvado on Jun 17, 2015 4:31:41 GMT -5
Could not be happier for Andre Iguodala. A class act who visited Harry at CHOP.
I will not argue the merits of whether he or Lebron deserved MVP of this series.
I will just be happy for a really nice man who was so great with my son.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 17, 2015 11:32:41 GMT -5
Could not be happier for Andre Iguodala. A class act who visited Harry at CHOP. I will not argue the merits of whether he or Lebron deserved MVP of this series. I will just be happy for a really nice man who was so great with my son. I can understand people thinking it was a boring series and I can understand I may be biased living in Oakland. But the Warriors are such a great team to root for, and their win signals so many things: It's a team with no traditional, one on one superstar. Curry demands a double at times because of his shooting, and he can drive, but he's not a star off the dribble. No one else is an isolation-type guy. No one else demands a double. Instead, it's skill, sharing the ball and teamwork that made this team so good. The Warriors were also the best defensive team in the NBA, partially because of depth and versatility, but also because of how they played together. Everyone bought in. And that last point is the best. Igoudala, an All Star, moved to the bench. David Lee, all-star, almost never played. Andrew Bogut, #1 pick and all-star, was outmatched in the Finals and almost never played in that round. None of them complained. All of them were ready to play when called upon. You've also got a team where two of the best players developed into stars through hard work -- Klay and Draymond -- and this team was built upon improvement and teamwork instead of superstars choosing to play together. It's just a freaking likeable team in almost every aspect.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 17, 2015 11:41:01 GMT -5
And it's not such a bad analogue for the Hoyas, though even aside from the college/NBA gap, we're not quite the college version of the Warriors yet.
Strong shooting backcourt that needs PnR work to drive: Steph & Klay / DSR & Tre Versatile, defend any position, hit enough shots to keep em honest: Green & Iggy & Barnes / Copeland & White & Derrickson Three header monster at center, each with unique skills: Bogut & Speights/Lee & Ezeli / Hayes & Govan & ... Second Unit Scorer & Microwave: Barbosa / Eli Carter, maybe? Second Unit Point who can't shoot but can do everything else: Livingston / Peak?
Okay, so it kind of falls apart with Peak, and Derrickson seems a rough fit in some ways for Barnes (and in others, kinda good). And we don't have the guard depth. And no one shoots like Steph...
But compositionally, we're not that off.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 17, 2015 17:54:31 GMT -5
And it's not such a bad analogue for the Hoyas, though even aside from the college/NBA gap, we're not quite the college version of the Warriors yet. Strong shooting backcourt that needs PnR work to drive: Steph & Klay / DSR & Tre Versatile, defend any position, hit enough shots to keep em honest: Green & Iggy & Barnes / Copeland & White & Derrickson Three header monster at center, each with unique skills: Bogut & Speights/Lee & Ezeli / Hayes & Govan & ... Second Unit Scorer & Microwave: Barbosa / Eli Carter, maybe? Second Unit Point who can't shoot but can do everything else: Livingston / Peak? Okay, so it kind of falls apart with Peak, and Derrickson seems a rough fit in some ways for Barnes (and in others, kinda good). And we don't have the guard depth. And no one shoots like Steph... But compositionally, we're not that off. And all of those reasons are why the Hoyas aren't ready to take on the NBA.
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Post by hoyarooter on Jun 17, 2015 17:57:18 GMT -5
Could not be happier for Andre Iguodala. A class act who visited Harry at CHOP. I will not argue the merits of whether he or Lebron deserved MVP of this series. I will just be happy for a really nice man who was so great with my son. I made my position clear above, but this is a take I can definitely support. Plus, as SF pointed out, there is no indication that Iguodala ever complained about his diminished role, so it's nice to see him in the limelight, whether or not he deserved the award.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Jun 18, 2015 4:51:12 GMT -5
And it's not such a bad analogue for the Hoyas, though even aside from the college/NBA gap, we're not quite the college version of the Warriors yet. Strong shooting backcourt that needs PnR work to drive: Steph & Klay / DSR & Tre Versatile, defend any position, hit enough shots to keep em honest: Green & Iggy & Barnes / Copeland & White & Derrickson Three header monster at center, each with unique skills: Bogut & Speights/Lee & Ezeli / Hayes & Govan & ... Second Unit Scorer & Microwave: Barbosa / Eli Carter, maybe? Second Unit Point who can't shoot but can do everything else: Livingston / Peak? Okay, so it kind of falls apart with Peak, and Derrickson seems a rough fit in some ways for Barnes (and in others, kinda good). And we don't have the guard depth. And no one shoots like Steph... But compositionally, we're not that off. Interesting points, but I think the Hoyas are going to need to be able to play a lot faster if we're going to try to compare us to the Warriors. We've seen some recent glimpses of our ability to selectively fast break, but overall, JT3's offenses tend to be some of the slowest in the NCAA. Perhaps the change to the 30-second shot clock will help, but I think JT3 should try to make an effort to avoid being labeled as a "slow offense," from a team, recruiting, image, and NBA-readiness standpoint. An admittedly somewhat bandwagon Warriors fan, this past season was unbelievable (83 combined wins between regular season and postseason, third all-time behind '96 and '97 Bulls), and the future for them is extremely bright. They have a hot young coach (Kerr), an MVP (Curry), a new all-star (Thompson), and an extremely talented and versatile supporting cast, most of which is very young (Green, Barnes, etc.). If they can keep the team together (early reports suggest Lee will be moving elsewhere and Green will be signed to a new max deal) and stay healthy, I think they can contend for titles for years to come. This could be the beginning of something great in the Bay (though from a fan standpoint, while they have some great hardcores that fill up Oracle Arena, overall I think they still lag behind the Giants and 49ers, but that could change shortly).
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