blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 15, 2015 19:25:55 GMT -5
Visiting campus Friday and Saturday. Was a top 50 player in his class that was completely under utilized at Louisville. Want this kid!!
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Post by Hordac on Apr 15, 2015 20:57:11 GMT -5
I like it !
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Post by kchoya on Apr 15, 2015 21:03:43 GMT -5
Related to Kendall Gill?
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 15, 2015 21:28:15 GMT -5
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Post by daymondmyles on Apr 15, 2015 21:34:02 GMT -5
I don't know. It's one thing to second guess Pitino on not using a big like Agau well. It's another thing to think he doesn't know a good guard when he sees one.
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IDenj
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Post by IDenj on Apr 15, 2015 21:39:36 GMT -5
Any relation to Johnny Gill?
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Post by wnyhoya on Apr 15, 2015 21:40:32 GMT -5
His high school highlights are very impressive. Very athletic with game. Anyone know why he couldn't see the court at Louisville?
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Post by 757hoyafan on Apr 15, 2015 21:45:40 GMT -5
Any relation to Johnny Gill? My, My, My.... He is related to Turner Gill?
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 15, 2015 22:04:52 GMT -5
Any relation to Johnny Gill? My, My, My.... He is related to Turner Gill? Gus Gil?
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Apr 15, 2015 22:48:53 GMT -5
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hoyaboya
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 15, 2015 22:52:26 GMT -5
Not a fan of being Louisville castoff U. Agau was enough of a reach, I'd pass on Gill.
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 15, 2015 22:54:30 GMT -5
In my humble opinion, this kid would thrive at Georgetown. We all know he hasn't scratched the surface of his potential. With a year where he is embraced and encouraged by the staff and the team, chances are very good that he will return to form. The kid has all the tools and athleticism to be a big time player in our system and I wouldn't be surprised to see this kid get to the league once he's done at Georgetown. Think about what we did with Hollis. As a freshman, Hollis was not considered a deadly three point shooter, had below average athleticism, below average ball handling skills, and had difficulty creating his own shot. Fast forward to now, NBA starter. Look at Jabril. Similar athleticism, although I'd argue that Anton is a more fluid athlete. Anton is better with the ball, is a natural scorer, and even though he struggled from beyond the arc, still had a better shot than jabril at the same stage. We all know how jabril developed and improved from one year to the next....I'd argue that Anton would be at least as good and likely better than jabril when he's done at Georgetown. Like I said, we get this kid, he'd start immediately, he'll make plays for the Hoyas and my money says he ends up in the league. Moreover, I understand he's a good kid with a good head on his shoulders.
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 15, 2015 22:58:05 GMT -5
In my humble opinion, this kid would thrive at Georgetown. We all know he hasn't scratched the surface of his potential. With a year where he is embraced and encouraged by the staff and the team, chances are very good that he will return to form. The kid has all the tools and athleticism to be a big time player in our system and I'd wouldn't be surprised to see this kid get to the league once he's done at Georgetown. Think about what we did with Hollis. As a freshman, Hollis was not considered a deadly three point shooter, had below average athleticism, below average ball handling skills, and had difficulty creating his own shot. Fast forward to now, NBA starter. Look at Jabril. Similar athleticism, although I'd argue that Anton is a more fluid athlete. Anton is better with the ball, is a natural scorer, and even though he struggled from beyond the arc, still had a better shot that jabril at the same stage. We all know what jabril developed into....I'd bet Anton would be at least as good and likely better that jabril when he's done at Georgetown. Like I said, we get this kid, he ends up in the league. Love the enthusiasm Blueandgray and very much appreciate your opinions and what you bring to this board. But if Pitino thought this kid had a chance to be good, he'd still be at Louisville. At this point, Pitino would clearly rather take transfers from Cleveland State and Drexel than try to further develop Gill. That's all I need to know. If we are willing to become known as the place that's going to take Louisville's castoffs, then I think a lot of us need to lower our expectations of the program.
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Apr 15, 2015 23:04:02 GMT -5
I hear you hoyaboya.....but not everyone thrives under Pitino. Pitino will recruit over players and some kids may not do well in that kind of environment. I know Agau didn't and I know how he is playing now. I also know that this kid was an absolute stud in high school, has elite athleticism, and would provide punch from the wing that Hoya teams always need. If you can get this guy, take him!!
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 15, 2015 23:19:07 GMT -5
His numbers were pretty awful his first two seasons but he didn't play much. I don't like seeing the FT% under 40% but he didn't play much. I guess it would depend on how much he can develop using his natural talents.
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Apr 15, 2015 23:24:53 GMT -5
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Post by kchoya on Apr 15, 2015 23:43:19 GMT -5
In my humble opinion, this kid would thrive at Georgetown. We all know he hasn't scratched the surface of his potential. With a year where he is embraced and encouraged by the staff and the team, chances are very good that he will return to form. The kid has all the tools and athleticism to be a big time player in our system and I'd wouldn't be surprised to see this kid get to the league once he's done at Georgetown. Think about what we did with Hollis. As a freshman, Hollis was not considered a deadly three point shooter, had below average athleticism, below average ball handling skills, and had difficulty creating his own shot. Fast forward to now, NBA starter. Look at Jabril. Similar athleticism, although I'd argue that Anton is a more fluid athlete. Anton is better with the ball, is a natural scorer, and even though he struggled from beyond the arc, still had a better shot that jabril at the same stage. We all know what jabril developed into....I'd bet Anton would be at least as good and likely better that jabril when he's done at Georgetown. Like I said, we get this kid, he ends up in the league. Love the enthusiasm Blueandgray and very much appreciate your opinions and what you bring to this board. But if Pitino thought this kid had a chance to be good, he'd still be at Louisville. At this point, Pitino would clearly rather take transfers from Cleveland State and Drexel than try to further develop Gill. That's all I need to know. If we are willing to become known as the place that's going to take Louisville's sloppy seconds, then I think a lot of us need to lower our expectations of the program. I agree. Players that leave Calipari, Coach K and Bill Self never do well elsewhere.
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Apr 16, 2015 6:19:54 GMT -5
Love the enthusiasm Blueandgray and very much appreciate your opinions and what you bring to this board. But if Pitino thought this kid had a chance to be good, he'd still be at Louisville. At this point, Pitino would clearly rather take transfers from Cleveland State and Drexel than try to further develop Gill. That's all I need to know. If we are willing to become known as the place that's going to take Louisville's sloppy seconds, then I think a lot of us need to lower our expectations of the program. I agree. Players that leave Calipari, Coach K and Bill Self never do well elsewhere. Yeah, you're right. Just ask: Kyle Wiltjer, espn.go.com/mens-college-basketball/story/_/id/12420133/kyle-wiltjer-transforms-game-transition-kentucky-wildcats-gonzaga-bulldogs or Michael Gbinije, www.syracuse.com/orangebasketball/index.ssf/2015/02/duke_coach_mike_krzyzewski_on_mike_gbinije_im_glad_he_turned_out_to_be_the_playe.html. And, no doubt, Kansas transfers Conner Frankamp (wasn't there board chatter about him before he chose Witchita State?) and Craig Victor (LSU) can't wait to sit on the bench next season at their respective new schools. Guess we'll see if they really learn to sit still, huh? Were you just funnin', kc?
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Post by jld on Apr 16, 2015 6:24:05 GMT -5
I do not believe that the fact that he did not "make it" at Louisville is determinative. That school plays in a cutthroat, "winning is everything" environment. Pitino is a great coach as far as results go, but his style may not be for everyone. He is clearly willing to recruit over players and has a "my way or the highway" mentality. While that style works for him, it may not work with every kid.
I do not think that the fan base there allows for patient development of players. In addition, given the absurd number of transfers in general in recent times, I do not think that a transfer has the red flag or stigma that it once had.
Gill looks like a kid who was very talented coming out of HS and just may benefit from a change of scenery and a year off to get his game together. We can use a ready to go replacement for DSR in 2016 -- Williams-Goss and Kenny Williams have a lot of suitors now, and I think that getting a top guard for 2016 like Fultz will be very difficult. So, if the staff wants him, I would go with their judgment.
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Post by DoctorHoya on Apr 16, 2015 6:48:06 GMT -5
Love the enthusiasm Blueandgray and very much appreciate your opinions and what you bring to this board. But if Pitino thought this kid had a chance to be good, he'd still be at Louisville. At this point, Pitino would clearly rather take transfers from Cleveland State and Drexel than try to further develop Gill. That's all I need to know. If we are willing to become known as the place that's going to take Louisville's sloppy seconds, then I think a lot of us need to lower our expectations of the program. I agree. Players that leave Calipari, Coach K and Bill Self never do well elsewhere. Kyle Wiltjer seemed to thrive outside of the Kentucky system this year...
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