RusskyHoya
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Post by RusskyHoya on May 9, 2015 6:38:35 GMT -5
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on May 9, 2015 9:13:43 GMT -5
Good to know that issues such as gun violence, murder, poverty, unemployment, failing schools and a rampant drug trade have all been solved, leaving council time for this vital concern.
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njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on May 9, 2015 12:05:45 GMT -5
Seeing as the District Council pretty much can't go to the bathroom without asking Congress's permission to use toilet paper, I'm not sweating the potential approval of PR 21-138.
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Post by buffandblue on May 18, 2015 17:54:24 GMT -5
GW will not renew the rivalry with GU until the Hoyas agree to play on the home court of the Colonials, Smith Center. George Washington will not agree to play all games v. GU at Verizon Center, the Hoya home court. It is a shame that two DC programs that were local rivals for almost 80 years in hoops don't play each other anymore. Would be great for Washington and for the fans of both teams.
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Post by aleutianhoya on May 18, 2015 18:14:22 GMT -5
GW will not renew the rivalry with GU until the Hoyas agree to play on the home court of the Colonials, Smith Center. George Washington will not agree to play all games v. GU at Verizon Center, the Hoya home court. It is a shame that two DC programs that were local rivals for almost 80 years in hoops don't play each other anymore. Would be great for Washington and for the fans of both teams. I like that you phrase it as GW renewing the rivalry with GU and setting the preconditions rather than the other way around. Obviously, it's the other way around. It may not be fair, but that's the way the game is played. There may be no chance to schedule the game under any circumstances anyway. But if it is a possibility, there simply is no chance that GU plays GW at the Smith Center with any level of consistency. The absolute most GW could hope for is a two or three for one sort of arrangement, and I doubt GU would do even that. If GW's position is that it would play only if each side got an equal number of home games -- I can respect that -- but understand that it means that GU and GW simply won't play.
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on May 18, 2015 18:21:13 GMT -5
My U11 boys team refuses to play Barcelona unless we get the first home game before we travel to the Camp Nou. We have announced this and await the response from Barca.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 18, 2015 19:31:48 GMT -5
GW will not renew the rivalry with GU until the Hoyas agree to play on the home court of the Colonials, Smith Center. George Washington will not agree to play all games v. GU at Verizon Center, the Hoya home court. It is a shame that two DC programs that were local rivals for almost 80 years in hoops don't play each other anymore. Would be great for Washington and for the fans of both teams. As someone who's argued for this series for 15 years, that's not an convincing argument. How would it sound if this read: "AU will not renew the rivalry with GU until the Hoyas agree to play on the home court of the Eagles, Bender Arena." Even less convincing: "GU will not renew the football rivalry with Maryland until the Terrapins return the home-and-home that was last held at Byrd Stadium. In 1950. ." With six non-conference games out of 9-10 already committed for over the next 4-5 years, the best solution is at Verizon Center. Let Georgetown host it one year and GW rent it the next, deck it in buff and blue, and put the Hoyas in the visitor's locker room if they so choose. The Smith Center is not a viable solution in 2015, and neither is McDonough Gymnasium. And speaking of "we owe you one", why didn't George Mason return that game from 1985?
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on May 18, 2015 19:57:37 GMT -5
GW will not renew the rivalry with GU until the Hoyas agree to play on the home court of the Colonials, Smith Center. George Washington will not agree to play all games v. GU at Verizon Center, the Hoya home court. It is a shame that two DC programs that were local rivals for almost 80 years in hoops don't play each other anymore. Would be great for Washington and for the fans of both teams. The only people who care are the WG fans.
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on May 18, 2015 22:25:53 GMT -5
GW will not renew the rivalry with GU until the Hoyas agree to play on the home court of the Colonials, Smith Center. George Washington will not agree to play all games v. GU at Verizon Center, the Hoya home court. It is a shame that two DC programs that were local rivals for almost 80 years in hoops don't play each other anymore. Would be great for Washington and for the fans of both teams. The only people who care are the WG fans. All how many of them exactly? Last I checked, as poor as the Hoyas attendance can be, in comparison GW fans don't give a rip about their basketball team. Then again, why would they most years? The rivalry has been dead for a long time and, at this point, it's not a rivalry. If I remember correctly, GW ended it too. We need solid OOC scheduling especially in the early years of our reconfigured conference. Most of the time, GW doesn't fit that bill. I'm not saying it wouldn't be fun for the area if it were feasible. I just don't see the reasoning behind it. And if it is the case that GW is trying to dictate terms, that seems a bit ludicrous and silly to me. What do the Hoyas gain by playing GW? We haven't not played them out of fear. We've not played them because they're irrelevant most of the time. There are certainly better choices in the area.
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jwp91
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Post by jwp91 on May 19, 2015 8:22:16 GMT -5
I have put this on the list of things I just can't imagine worrying about.
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on May 19, 2015 9:55:23 GMT -5
Buffandblue be trippin'...
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Post by hoyalove4ever on May 19, 2015 11:20:46 GMT -5
They ain't lookin' too "buff."
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on May 22, 2015 10:53:11 GMT -5
How many other cities have this many D-1 programs all accessible by the same public transpo network?
If we're going to both (a) schedule really hard OOC opponents / tourneys (which we should continue to do) and (b) balance that with no-name cupcakes that have no notoriety, no draw for fans, and no benefit to recruiting, and serve as tune-ups for the team, why not have those cupcakes be local? At least it would generate some more ticket sales and create a little interest about college hoops; we should capitalize on the fact that DC is growing and its interest in sports is growing with it, and position ourselves as "DC's Team" to counter UMCP. Why not sell games that non-GU locals would be more inclined to attend, even of it's to hate on us ('cause let's face it, we're going to be the bad guy in lots of people's minds regardless, and if we beat their school by 30, then good).
And who the f cares about playing NJIT, Savannah State, and Texas A&M Corpus Christi? I've been a loyal season ticket holder for my entire adult life and even though I go to every game I'm in town for, I'd WAY rather see us beat Mason by 30 than some doormat from the So Con, even if only to humble brag about it when I see Mason alums around town.
I've always thought our scheduling strategy should be simple and three-fold: (1) high D-1 majors like Kansas, Duke, UNC, former Big East powers like Pitt, Cuse, etc. that will be both a test and a draw every year (you can include pre-season tourneys in this category since they accomplish the same objectives); (2) local schools (UMCP, AU, HU, etc.); and (3) Jesuit schools, especially those with a history of hoops success that need some attention (LMU, USF, etc.). I think the last couple years, III has actually done remarkably well with this, but I also think we need MORE OOC games; we schedule too few games in November and December, and a few more Ws helps on Selection Sunday.
SO, why not?
Now that we're willing to play Maryland, why not try a (non-Feinstein/BB&T based) Big5-style tournament or BigE/BigT challenge format for DC/NoVA/Balto?
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tgo
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Post by tgo on May 22, 2015 12:04:33 GMT -5
How many other cities have this many D-1 programs all accessible by the same public transpo network? If we're going to both (a) schedule really hard OOC opponents / tourneys (which we should continue to do) and (b) balance that with no-name cupcakes that have no notoriety, no draw for fans, and no benefit to recruiting, and serve as tune-ups for the team, why not have those cupcakes be local? At least it would generate some more ticket sales and create a little interest about college hoops; we should capitalize on the fact that DC is growing and its interest in sports is growing with it, and position ourselves as "DC's Team" to counter UMCP. Why not sell games that non-GU locals would be more inclined to attend, even of it's to hate on us ('cause let's face it, we're going to be the bad guy in lots of people's minds regardless, and if we beat their school by 30, then good). And who the f cares about playing NJIT, Savannah State, and Texas A&M Corpus Christi? I've been a loyal season ticket holder for my entire adult life and even though I go to every game I'm in town for, I'd WAY rather see us beat Mason by 30 than some doormat from the So Con, even if only to humble brag about it when I see Mason alums around town. I've always thought our scheduling strategy should be simple and three-fold: (1) high D-1 majors like Kansas, Duke, UNC, former Big East powers like Pitt, Cuse, etc. that will be both a test and a draw every year (you can include pre-season tourneys in this category since they accomplish the same objectives); (2) local schools (UMCP, AU, HU, etc.); and (3) Jesuit schools, especially those with a history of hoops success that need some attention (LMU, USF, etc.). I think the last couple years, III has actually done remarkably well with this, but I also think we need MORE OOC games; we schedule too few games in November and December, and a few more Ws helps on Selection Sunday. SO, why not? Now that we're willing to play Maryland, why not try a (non-Feinstein/BB&T based) Big5-style tournament or BigE/BigT challenge format for DC/NoVA/Balto? You forgot the most overlooked part of the perfect schedule plan. Methodically scheduling teams that we have a losing record against until that score is settled. For instance, we need to schedule a 4 year deal with Army, 3 games against the Greyhounds of Assumption, 4 trips to battle with Carnegie Mellon (defending Geneva Coaches vs Cancer Tournament Champions) etc. If you go to www.hoyabasketball.com/opponents.htm you will see that we have enough losing records to right to keep our schedule full for a while (we are 19-37 vs Navy, can we play them twice a year?).
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Post by Coast2CoastHoya on May 22, 2015 13:22:47 GMT -5
How many other cities have this many D-1 programs all accessible by the same public transpo network? If we're going to both (a) schedule really hard OOC opponents / tourneys (which we should continue to do) and (b) balance that with no-name cupcakes that have no notoriety, no draw for fans, and no benefit to recruiting, and serve as tune-ups for the team, why not have those cupcakes be local? At least it would generate some more ticket sales and create a little interest about college hoops; we should capitalize on the fact that DC is growing and its interest in sports is growing with it, and position ourselves as "DC's Team" to counter UMCP. Why not sell games that non-GU locals would be more inclined to attend, even of it's to hate on us ('cause let's face it, we're going to be the bad guy in lots of people's minds regardless, and if we beat their school by 30, then good). And who the f cares about playing NJIT, Savannah State, and Texas A&M Corpus Christi? I've been a loyal season ticket holder for my entire adult life and even though I go to every game I'm in town for, I'd WAY rather see us beat Mason by 30 than some doormat from the So Con, even if only to humble brag about it when I see Mason alums around town. I've always thought our scheduling strategy should be simple and three-fold: (1) high D-1 majors like Kansas, Duke, UNC, former Big East powers like Pitt, Cuse, etc. that will be both a test and a draw every year (you can include pre-season tourneys in this category since they accomplish the same objectives); (2) local schools (UMCP, AU, HU, etc.); and (3) Jesuit schools, especially those with a history of hoops success that need some attention (LMU, USF, etc.). I think the last couple years, III has actually done remarkably well with this, but I also think we need MORE OOC games; we schedule too few games in November and December, and a few more Ws helps on Selection Sunday. SO, why not? Now that we're willing to play Maryland, why not try a (non-Feinstein/BB&T based) Big5-style tournament or BigE/BigT challenge format for DC/NoVA/Balto? You forgot the most overlooked part of the perfect schedule plan. Methodically scheduling teams that we have a losing record against until that score is settled. For instance, we need to schedule a 4 year deal with Army, 3 games against the Greyhounds of Assumption, 4 trips to battle with Carnegie Mellon (defending Geneva Coaches vs Cancer Tournament Champions) etc. If you go to www.hoyabasketball.com/opponents.htm you will see that we have enough losing records to right to keep our schedule full for a while (we are 19-37 vs Navy, can we play them twice a year?). Dude, absolutely.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on May 22, 2015 17:06:23 GMT -5
Uh, oh, I was there for Catholic's only win against us. That game was noted for our fans' response to the Catholic's fans cheer "what the heck's a Hoya". Of course, our response was "what the heck's a Catholic!"
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Post by kchoya on May 22, 2015 23:16:31 GMT -5
How many other cities have this many D-1 programs all accessible by the same public transpo network? If we're going to both (a) schedule really hard OOC opponents / tourneys (which we should continue to do) and (b) balance that with no-name cupcakes that have no notoriety, no draw for fans, and no benefit to recruiting, and serve as tune-ups for the team, why not have those cupcakes be local? At least it would generate some more ticket sales and create a little interest about college hoops; we should capitalize on the fact that DC is growing and its interest in sports is growing with it, and position ourselves as "DC's Team" to counter UMCP. Why not sell games that non-GU locals would be more inclined to attend, even of it's to hate on us ('cause let's face it, we're going to be the bad guy in lots of people's minds regardless, and if we beat their school by 30, then good). And who the f cares about playing NJIT, Savannah State, and Texas A&M Corpus Christi? I've been a loyal season ticket holder for my entire adult life and even though I go to every game I'm in town for, I'd WAY rather see us beat Mason by 30 than some doormat from the So Con, even if only to humble brag about it when I see Mason alums around town. I've always thought our scheduling strategy should be simple and three-fold: (1) high D-1 majors like Kansas, Duke, UNC, former Big East powers like Pitt, Cuse, etc. that will be both a test and a draw every year (you can include pre-season tourneys in this category since they accomplish the same objectives); (2) local schools (UMCP, AU, HU, etc.); and (3) Jesuit schools, especially those with a history of hoops success that need some attention (LMU, USF, etc.). I think the last couple years, III has actually done remarkably well with this, but I also think we need MORE OOC games; we schedule too few games in November and December, and a few more Ws helps on Selection Sunday. SO, why not? Now that we're willing to play Maryland, why not try a (non-Feinstein/BB&T based) Big5-style tournament or BigE/BigT challenge format for DC/NoVA/Balto? who the F cares about playing WG or Mason? Not many GU fans.
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Post by kghoya on May 23, 2015 1:53:32 GMT -5
How many other cities have this many D-1 programs all accessible by the same public transpo network? If we're going to both (a) schedule really hard OOC opponents / tourneys (which we should continue to do) and (b) balance that with no-name cupcakes that have no notoriety, no draw for fans, and no benefit to recruiting, and serve as tune-ups for the team, why not have those cupcakes be local? At least it would generate some more ticket sales and create a little interest about college hoops; we should capitalize on the fact that DC is growing and its interest in sports is growing with it, and position ourselves as "DC's Team" to counter UMCP. Why not sell games that non-GU locals would be more inclined to attend, even of it's to hate on us ('cause let's face it, we're going to be the bad guy in lots of people's minds regardless, and if we beat their school by 30, then good). And who the f cares about playing NJIT, Savannah State, and Texas A&M Corpus Christi? I've been a loyal season ticket holder for my entire adult life and even though I go to every game I'm in town for, I'd WAY rather see us beat Mason by 30 than some doormat from the So Con, even if only to humble brag about it when I see Mason alums around town. I've always thought our scheduling strategy should be simple and three-fold: (1) high D-1 majors like Kansas, Duke, UNC, former Big East powers like Pitt, Cuse, etc. that will be both a test and a draw every year (you can include pre-season tourneys in this category since they accomplish the same objectives); (2) local schools (UMCP, AU, HU, etc.); and (3) Jesuit schools, especially those with a history of hoops success that need some attention (LMU, USF, etc.). I think the last couple years, III has actually done remarkably well with this, but I also think we need MORE OOC games; we schedule too few games in November and December, and a few more Ws helps on Selection Sunday. SO, why not? Now that we're willing to play Maryland, why not try a (non-Feinstein/BB&T based) Big5-style tournament or BigE/BigT challenge format for DC/NoVA/Balto? who the F cares about playing WG or Mason? Not many GU fans. Bigger issue is that there aren't many GU fans. But yes, playing mason or GW is not a problem
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2015 11:48:31 GMT -5
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SFHoya99
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Post by SFHoya99 on Jun 4, 2015 12:25:49 GMT -5
Why would we bring down our SOS?
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