canissaxa
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Post by canissaxa on Apr 16, 2015 9:24:17 GMT -5
Pretty sure one of JTIII's strengths is scheduling. And one thing he does great is schedule the perfect teams to game the RPI--those who are going to win a ton of games in bad conferences but which don't have a chance to beat us. He also schedules the marquee non-conference games the get the good win resume built.
GW doesn't meet either criteria. Not in our interest to play them. Not cowardly to avoid something that has no benefit to us. Not that complicated.
When RPI is eventually reformed or goes away, then scheduling priorities may change and it may make sense to schedule GW.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 16, 2015 9:45:52 GMT -5
The city is not clamoring for a GU-GW game. GW would love it. Georgetown fans wouldn't care. Casual fans wouldn't care. BUM is a bitter Edited who has burned his bridges so many times with so many people I wonder why anyone talks to him anymore.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 16, 2015 9:59:49 GMT -5
I'm still waiting to resume the exhibition games at Fort Hood.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Apr 16, 2015 10:10:23 GMT -5
Yea, I don't really disagree with any of that, aleutianhoya, although I do think the potential for a fun (from our perspective, anyway) rivalry between GU and GW is definitely there, in a way that does not exist with American, Howard, or Mason. Maryland is kind of a double-edged sword. They're a big state wannabe football power with a number of highly accomplished athletics programs. Each school is, presumably, comfortable with their institutional identity and has no desire to become more like the other. There's a neatness and clarity in stark differences like that which can be great for rivalries. And, frankly, we would benefit from Maryland's profile, built-in coverage, etc. On the other hand, Maryland is not really an institution we want to benchmark ourselves against for any number of reasons, not least because we're simply not going to be able to match their level of athletics funding and prioritization. 'Cuse was one thing (and look where that got them...) - Murrlin is another thing entirely. |
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Post by AvantGuardHoya on Apr 16, 2015 10:13:03 GMT -5
I'm still waiting to resume the exhibition games at Fort Hood. Well, in that light, why can't we revive the annual St. Leo massacre? |
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Apr 16, 2015 10:14:00 GMT -5
"You see, doing something for the city is not what moves them. They don’t identify with D.C. They just don’t give a damn. And they get away with it."
Seems like an odd thing to say about DC's largest non government employer.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 16, 2015 10:37:01 GMT -5
Last two years, GU played St. Francis, Robert Morris, Townson, Radford, Lipscomb, High Point, Elon and FIU. If you want to upgrade, I'd swap out GWU, Maryland and Mason for any of these dogs. Dogs? St. Francis finished with 22 wins and missed the NCAA's in a three point loss in the NEC final. Robert Morris finished with 20 wins and a second round loss to Duke in the NCAA's. Radford finished with 19 wins and a 12-6 conference record. |
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 16, 2015 10:39:47 GMT -5
The other problem with the GW "rivalry" is that we would beat them nearly every year. Sure, they have fielded better teams the last two seasons, but before that they were in the 150-160 range for several years in a row. While we do play OOC teams like that regularly, we also beat them consistently.
To build a real rivalry you need a series of meaningful games by two competitive teams. Given that Georgetown is generally significantly better, I don't see where this would generate much interest. Sure, there might be some interest at the beginning simply because it hasn't happened in years, but would it really generate sustained interest once Georgetown cleans their clock on an annual basis.
While I realize there is plenty of Maryland hatred on here, at least they have been fielding better teams in recent years. I could see a rivalry of sorts developing there simply because both teams are pretty high quality (and from an optics perspective it's better to play a Big 10 team that A-10).
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Post by SDHoya on Apr 16, 2015 10:56:00 GMT -5
Doesn't this same "article" pop up about once a year? It is pretty funny though when I tell GW people that I went to Georgetown, and their reaction is nearly as severe as if I told a Hoya that I am a Cuse fan. GW people really believe there is a rivalry between our schools. I keep reminding them that they only thing that GW and Georgetown have in common is that everyone of us applied to Georgetown.
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Post by LCPolo18 on Apr 17, 2015 10:05:53 GMT -5
Doesn't this same "article" pop up about once a year? It is pretty funny though when I tell GW people that I went to Georgetown, and their reaction is nearly as severe as if I told a Hoya that I am a Cuse fan. GW people really believe there is a rivalry between our schools. I keep reminding them that they only thing that GW and Georgetown have in common is that everyone of us applied to Georgetown. When I saw this article I immediately thought of GW's 2006 attempt to bring back the series. www.hoyasaxa.com/sports/archives/archive0206.htm#37 |
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Apr 17, 2015 11:17:18 GMT -5
Doesn't this same "article" pop up about once a year? It is pretty funny though when I tell GW people that I went to Georgetown, and their reaction is nearly as severe as if I told a Hoya that I am a Cuse fan. GW people really believe there is a rivalry between our schools. I keep reminding them that they only thing that GW and Georgetown have in common is that everyone of us applied to Georgetown. I have to believe that there are a few GW students who were not delusional or masochistic enough to apply to Georgetown. |
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Post by McBricks on Apr 17, 2015 16:25:49 GMT -5
People - it's WG. Get it straight.
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Post by drquigley on Apr 17, 2015 20:37:21 GMT -5
I think the only legitimate complaint is GU not participating in the BET preseason tourney. A GU-MD-GW-(Mason/Howard/AU/Towson/etc) 2 game tourney would be great. But not if it kept us from early OOC matches with Kansas/Florida/Duke/etc. I remember when we played AU and GW twice each year. Fun games. Usually very competitive. But that train left the station 35 years ago. When GW becomes a legit top 25 program then they can complain about us dodging them.
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Post by tashoya on Apr 17, 2015 20:50:44 GMT -5
I think the only legitimate complaint is GU not participating in the BET preseason tourney. A GU-MD-GW-(Mason/Howard/AU/Towson/etc) 2 game tourney would be great. But not if it kept us from early OOC matches with Kansas/Florida/Duke/etc. I remember when we played AU and GW twice each year. Fun games. Usually very competitive. But that train left the station 35 years ago. When GW becomes a legit top 25 program then they can complain about us dodging them. I don't disagree necessarily but, fwiw, it's not GW complaining. It's Mark Plotkin. He used Feinstein because he needed quotes from some schmuck that would support his own narrative. There is very little in the way of verifiable facts in that article. It's an opinion piece based on nothing but Plotkin's own personal agenda. GW students don't much care for their basketball team. If you think Georgetown students are apathetic, check out GW's game attendance numbers. Non story that only a handful of people care about. Plotkin and Feinstein are, apparently, squarely in that handful. |
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Post by hoyajinx on Apr 17, 2015 21:04:43 GMT -5
I think the only legitimate complaint is GU not participating in the BET preseason tourney. A GU-MD-GW-(Mason/Howard/AU/Towson/etc) 2 game tourney would be great. But not if it kept us from early OOC matches with Kansas/Florida/Duke/etc. I remember when we played AU and GW twice each year. Fun games. Usually very competitive. But that train left the station 35 years ago. When GW becomes a legit top 25 program then they can complain about us dodging them. I don't disagree necessarily but, fwiw, it's not GW complaining. It's Mark Plotkin. He used Feinstein because he needed quotes from some schmuck that would support his own narrative. There is very little in the way of verifiable facts in that article. It's an opinion piece based on nothing but Plotkin's own personal agenda. GW students don't much care for their basketball team. If you think Georgetown students are apathetic, check out GW's game attendance numbers. Non story that only a handful of people care about. Plotkin and Feinstein are, apparently, squarely in that handful. I went to Georgetown from '97-'01 and never missed a home game, even when we were abysmal. I got my master's from GW. In my two years there, it never even crossed my mind to see GW play (but I had Georgetown season tickets both years). I don't recall anyone even talking about the basketball team at GW or going to a game. Not even as a change of pace. |
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Post by tashoya on Apr 17, 2015 21:18:58 GMT -5
I don't disagree necessarily but, fwiw, it's not GW complaining. It's Mark Plotkin. He used Feinstein because he needed quotes from some schmuck that would support his own narrative. There is very little in the way of verifiable facts in that article. It's an opinion piece based on nothing but Plotkin's own personal agenda. GW students don't much care for their basketball team. If you think Georgetown students are apathetic, check out GW's game attendance numbers. Non story that only a handful of people care about. Plotkin and Feinstein are, apparently, squarely in that handful. I went to Georgetown from '97-'01 and never missed a home game, even when we were abysmal. I got my master's from GW. In my two years there, it never even crossed my mind to see GW play (but I had Georgetown season tickets both years). I don't recall anyone even talking about the basketball team at GW or going to a game. Not even as a change of pace. Tip of the cap to you for being there for your Hoyas! I won't hold the GW thing against you as your loyalty never wavered  |
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Post by Elvado on Apr 18, 2015 8:53:47 GMT -5
This whole discussion sounds like my local beer league team bitching that the Yankees are ducking us.
Nonsense on every level. GW is inferior on every level. We have no reason to play them. Case closed.
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Post by tashoya on Apr 18, 2015 18:20:47 GMT -5
This whole discussion sounds like my local beer league team bitching that the Yankees are ducking us. Nonsense on every level. GW is inferior on every level. We have no reason to play them. Case closed. Your beer league could probably take the Yankees this year. They probably are ducking you guys. |
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Post by Big Dog on Apr 20, 2015 12:44:58 GMT -5
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Post by kchoya on Apr 20, 2015 13:07:35 GMT -5
If I didn't start this thread, then you wouldn't have the opportunity to post that link.  |
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