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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Apr 8, 2015 23:08:00 GMT -5
I can respect that. However, I am just basing that on all of the comments on Peak coming out of high school where it was stated that in several games he showed off his entire arsenal of shots. There were several games where he scored 38 plus and basically carried his team on his back. Granted that's high school against lesser opponents, but still a guy does not consistently wrack up those kinds of numbers by not being able to hit the three. To be honest with you, I think a lot of it boils down to confidence. I think you will see Peak the scoring from all over the court machine that he is next year. The guy really is a natural scorer, as JT3 has pointed out. As a matter of fact, Coach has compared him to Jeff Green in that respect. Could be the one foot difference in the 3pt line between college and high school. Might take some time to adjust to it. Otto had the same problem. Went from .226 to .422 his sophomore year. Excellent point. I had forgotten about the adjustment that Porter had to make. Let's hope that Peak follows in his path. I still have very high hopes for Peak, and obviously JT3 does as well. |
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Post by hoyazeke on Apr 9, 2015 8:22:55 GMT -5
I don't think the distance is the issue. I think LJ lost confidence in his J sometime during the season. If he puts in work this offseason the confidence will come back. Trust me fellas if he is a shooter he is probably jacking Js from NBA range in pickup games.
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Post by hoyaboya on Apr 9, 2015 8:41:14 GMT -5
Getting back to Anthony Collins, he'd be a great get. Seasoned floor leader who would allow DSR to focus on shooting/scoring which we'll need from him next season, particularly given the loss of Smith and Trawick.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Apr 9, 2015 9:16:49 GMT -5
Getting back to Anthony Collins, he'd be a great get. Seasoned floor leader who would allow DSR to focus on shooting/scoring which we'll need from him next season, particularly given the loss of Smith and Trawick. I'll even go one step further--We don't need another ball-handling guard, we NEED this guy! I think right now the coaching staff should be throwing the kitchen sink at him. I' m happy to hear there's is mutual interest. |
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Post by fanofjack on Apr 9, 2015 9:30:33 GMT -5
I know the announcement that we are in his Top 3 came after DSR announced his decision to return, but I have a nagging feeling that Collins put us in his Top 3 while under the assumption that DSR was gone. Anyone know differently?
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 9, 2015 9:55:53 GMT -5
I can see why a lot of people are enthusiastic about this guy, I am just having trouble getting over the fact that he's a relatively poor shooter. I realize that he makes up for it by not shooting too much and via assists, but he was still not an overly efficient player (which includes his assists).
I definitely think there's a good role for him on the team, but I am not sure that I see him getting "big minutes," either. He would be great for depth, ball handling, and to step up in case of injuries or foul trouble, but if he and his 95 O Rating got "big minutes" at the expense of Tre Campbell's 112.6 O Rating and minutes, I think that would be a mistake. All that said, I realize that DSR and Campbell cannot both play 35 minutes a game, so I welcome a solid senior transfer. I just don't think we should go overboard about how much of an impact he will make.
He would have a huge impact in giving us depth, but I do not think he would have a huge impact otherwise. As I've said before, I would be thrilled to be wrong. My main problem with it is that it doesn't do anything to help us with outside shooting, but if nobody who is a good outside shooter is available (or likely to transfer to Georgetown), then I don't have a problem with it.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Apr 9, 2015 10:09:08 GMT -5
When is the deadline for 5th year seniors to commit?
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Post by nychoya3 on Apr 9, 2015 10:16:27 GMT -5
Does anyone know about Collins defense? Is he thought of as particularly good or bad there?
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Post by hoyazeke on Apr 9, 2015 10:24:08 GMT -5
I can see why a lot of people are enthusiastic about this guy, I am just having trouble getting over the fact that he's a relatively poor shooter. I realize that he makes up for it by not shooting too much and via assists, but he was still not an overly efficient player (which includes his assists). I definitely think there's a good role for him on the team, but I am not sure that I see him getting "big minutes," either. He would be great for depth, ball handling, and to step up in case of injuries or foul trouble, but if he and his 95 O Rating got "big minutes" at the expense of Tre Campbell's 112.6 O Rating and minutes, I think that would be a mistake. All that said, I realize that DSR and Campbell cannot both play 35 minutes a game, so I welcome a solid senior transfer. I just don't think we should go overboard about how much of an impact he will make. He would have a huge impact in giving us depth, but I do not think he would have a huge impact otherwise. As I've said before, I would be thrilled to be wrong. My main problem with it is that it doesn't do anything to help us with outside shooting, but if nobody who is a good outside shooter is available (or likely to transfer to Georgetown), then I don't have a problem with it. Saxa2003 you have to take in consideration that he was on some really bad USF teams. I expect his % to all increase whether he is a Hoya or a Bear. |
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Post by Talos on Apr 9, 2015 10:41:36 GMT -5
I can see why a lot of people are enthusiastic about this guy, I am just having trouble getting over the fact that he's a relatively poor shooter. I realize that he makes up for it by not shooting too much and via assists, but he was still not an overly efficient player (which includes his assists). I definitely think there's a good role for him on the team, but I am not sure that I see him getting "big minutes," either. He would be great for depth, ball handling, and to step up in case of injuries or foul trouble, but if he and his 95 O Rating got "big minutes" at the expense of Tre Campbell's 112.6 O Rating and minutes, I think that would be a mistake. All that said, I realize that DSR and Campbell cannot both play 35 minutes a game, so I welcome a solid senior transfer. I just don't think we should go overboard about how much of an impact he will make. He would have a huge impact in giving us depth, but I do not think he would have a huge impact otherwise. As I've said before, I would be thrilled to be wrong. My main problem with it is that it doesn't do anything to help us with outside shooting, but if nobody who is a good outside shooter is available (or likely to transfer to Georgetown), then I don't have a problem with it. I definitely understand your concerns. However, any guy coming in as the 4th guard on the roster isn't going to be a perfect player. If he was a great outside shooter in addition to being quick, athletic, great handle, great penetrator, then he would have every program in the country after him. I'd love to have another shooter on the roster too. However, I also think someone with a dynamic handle, who can drive and dish, is just as important. We don't have that type of player right now, barring improvement from those already on the roster. I'll be extremely happy if we land Collins. And since it's only for one year, I'm not worried about him taking that much development time from Campbell. Nothing wrong with actually having depth and competition at the guard position! |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 9, 2015 11:29:11 GMT -5
You have the opportunity to add one of the top assist guys in the NCAA and guys are talking about his shooting? Man please….
The shot clock is moving to 30 seconds, the game is getting faster and you need players that can create when things break down. Teams packed it in on us this year to stop Josh, Josh is gone. Unless teams think they need to load up in the post to stop Govan more than likely they will play us straight up. Against zone if your struggling you can always go with Tre and Dsr.
We don’t have a 350 pound monster to dump it down to every time down the floor so we will need to play faster to create some easy buckets. This kid is one of the best available at that and would be a great addition. That being said he’s from Htown so Baylor looks like the Frontrunner
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Post by BeantownHoya on Apr 9, 2015 11:33:14 GMT -5
You have the opportunity to add one of the top assist guys in the NCAA and guys are talking about his shooting? Man please…. The shot clock is moving to 30 seconds, the game is getting faster and you need players that can create when things break down. Teams packed it in on us this year to stop Josh, Josh is gone. Unless teams think they need to load up in the post to stop Govan more than likely they will play us straight up. Against zone if your struggling you can always go with Tre and Dsr. We don’t have a 350 pound monster to dump it down to every time down the floor so we will need to play faster to create some easy buckets. This kid is one of the best available at that and would be a great addition. That being said he’s from Htown so Baylor looks like the Frontrunner ...and Baylor is losing Cherry so they have a ton of minutes available and a great supporting cast for next year. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 9, 2015 11:57:33 GMT -5
When is the deadline for 5th year seniors to commit? Fall enrollment? Not sure there is any real deadline. |
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Apr 9, 2015 12:05:31 GMT -5
Thanks, SF. Was just wondering if we should expect Collins to commit somewhere imminently. Sounds like it could drag on a bit.
I think grabbing Collins is a no-brainer for next year to add depth. My hope is that Tre would see the bulk of the minutes and Collins play a reserve/change of pace role role.
Count me in the camp, however, of being very leery about the Collins/Bracey PGs. As much as they can explode with quickness and get to the rack, more often than not, these types of PGs tend to turn it over a lot and struggle to get shots off on the perimeter and in the lane. Plus, they can be a huge liability guarding the 3-point line.
It takes a very special talent to become a productive college PG if you are sub-5'10"
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Post by Cambridge on Apr 9, 2015 12:15:39 GMT -5
Does anyone know about Collins defense? Is he thought of as particularly good or bad there? A write up from a USF blogger posted on CasualHoya suggests he is a very good defender. |
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Post by daymondmyles on Apr 9, 2015 12:28:34 GMT -5
Chris Wright was a bad shooter too.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Apr 9, 2015 12:50:05 GMT -5
Chris was a much, much, much better shooter than Collins is.
Having said that, Gtown should still take Collins. Elite ballhandling, passing and quickness, and very good defender
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Post by daymondmyles on Apr 9, 2015 13:03:34 GMT -5
Was he? By percentages, they were pretty even. Chris WAS a good shooter allegedly in high school but that rep seemed to based on volume because he was a pretty terrible shooter here.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Apr 9, 2015 13:17:06 GMT -5
Wright was around 6 feet tall. It was much harder for him to get his shot off cleanly in college, compared to high school.
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Post by daytonahoya31 on Apr 9, 2015 13:18:27 GMT -5
Was he? By percentages, they were pretty even. Chris WAS a good shooter allegedly in high school but that rep seemed to based on volume because he was a pretty terrible shooter here. Chris was a threat from 3-point range, defenses respected that. That would be a change from Collins. |
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