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Post by FromTheBeginning on Apr 8, 2015 8:33:00 GMT -5
If DSR was operating outside the GU "circle of trust" in the misguided venture, you can be sure that III is having him retrace every step he took (advisors, agent contact, etc.) to make sure there is nothing that will come back to bite them in the butt. Also a careful evaluation of just where DSR stands academically before making any official announcements about him being back.
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Post by guru on Apr 8, 2015 8:56:52 GMT -5
This whole episode has been really strange Unusual for sure, but I credit someone who has the self-confidence and good sense to recognize when they've made a public mistake and to correct it rather than acknowledge the error. For all we know, he heard what Kevin Braswell had to say about playing overseas, saw the teams and fans descending on his hometown, looked at the mock draft boards, and decided it was worth coming back for one more year. No fault in that--maybe just a bit rash in coming to the decision so quickly. Agreed. was talking about apparent lack of communication with the staff. Could be that the coaches are just being tightlipped about it of course. But confirmation from a players mother instead of from him or staff strikes me as odd. And that initial press release was fairly definitive. Whatever - definitely happy he's back.
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Post by calhoya on Apr 8, 2015 8:58:12 GMT -5
I'm still a bit uncomfortable celebrating until the school acknowledges the news in some way. [/p] All that said, this whole situation has been concerning to me, from the fact that the staff seemed completely blindsided by the initial decision to leave, to the fact that the University seemed to close any door to his return, to the fact that he is now coming back and has acknowledged it publicly before the staff has offered any comment at all. Granted, this probably happens to other teams all the time, and I just don't notice the day-to-day drama because it doesn't affect me. But count me as someone who will breathe the ultimate sigh of relief once the University issues a release.
[/quote] What are you referring to in making this statement? I am unaware that the University Administration made any comments that could have been inferred to close the door on his return, but then I am at the opposite end of the country and may have missed something.
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Post by guru on Apr 8, 2015 8:58:41 GMT -5
Does this mean Maryland isn't going to DOMINATE THE DC BASKETBALL LANDSCAPE FOREVER AND EVER anymore? Isn't it about time to change your avatar?
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 8, 2015 8:59:31 GMT -5
If there is one thing mildly concerning about this story, it's the apparent lack of communication between DSR and the staff. This whole episode has been really strange This isn't the first time a player has declared and come back....
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Post by Deleted on Apr 8, 2015 9:00:30 GMT -5
If DSR was operating outside the GU "circle of trust" in the misguided venture, you can be sure that III is having him retrace every step he took (advisors, agent contact, etc.) to make sure there is nothing that will come back to bite them in the butt. Also a careful evaluation of just where DSR stands academically before making any official announcements about him being back. Yeah. I gotta figure they want to make sure everything's by the book. Hopefully no mistakes were made that can't be corrected. Also - I think (hope?) that if the school/staff had been part of the initial decision, it would have take place only after major deliberation with all resources best equipped to help DSR succeed at the next level. Bottom line - if the school were helping him do it, there'd be no way he'd be backing out a week later.
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Post by rockhoya on Apr 8, 2015 9:01:49 GMT -5
Tough decision for him but selfishly as a fan I'm thrilled that he's decided to come back. Now he'll have a chance to become one of the all time Hoya greats statistically as well as by leading the team to a championship. Add a college degree and a year to polish his NBA qualifications and you've got a great recipe for success. Welcome back! I'd say proving he is the best guard III had had is a huge motivating factor.
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Post by guru on Apr 8, 2015 9:02:47 GMT -5
This whole episode has been really strange This isn't the first time a player has declared and come back.... Nope it's not
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Post by seaweed on Apr 8, 2015 9:09:25 GMT -5
Lead story on guhoyas.com is about registration for III's summer camp - color me concerned. I agree that there is a lot of due diligence to do and there may be trust issues to work through, but sure would appreciate some first party indication.
been on the side of "stay in school" for a long time, not just with DSR but with others who have had a more certain path to a paycheck as well. For his sake and for selfish fanatic reasons as well I hope that DSR has re-valued the degree equation, decided to re-commit to the University and his teammates and that he takes this team all the way next year.
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Post by Big Dog on Apr 8, 2015 9:23:43 GMT -5
Lead story on guhoyas.com is about registration for III's summer camp - color me concerned. I agree that there is a lot of due diligence to do and there may be trust issues to work through, but sure would appreciate some first party indication. been on the side of "stay in school" for a long time, not just with DSR but with others who have had a more certain path to a paycheck as well. For his sake and for selfish fanatic reasons as well I hope that DSR has re-valued the degree equation, decided to re-commit to the University and his teammates and that he takes this team all the way next year. Why would they rush to make a formal announcement when they just did that a week ago and it turned out to be premature? There's no reason to confirm anything until the deadline to declare has passed--whenever that is. Throw in that information from the Gtown staff basically never, ever leaks and I'm not sure what's surprising about this.
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Post by hoyadestroya on Apr 8, 2015 9:29:34 GMT -5
Just when I decided I was ready to head back to hoyatalk to read some more doom and gloom..
Now I have to head to the Yankees board to get my fill.
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Post by aleutianhoya on Apr 8, 2015 9:34:30 GMT -5
Lead story on guhoyas.com is about registration for III's summer camp - color me concerned. I agree that there is a lot of due diligence to do and there may be trust issues to work through, but sure would appreciate some first party indication. been on the side of "stay in school" for a long time, not just with DSR but with others who have had a more certain path to a paycheck as well. For his sake and for selfish fanatic reasons as well I hope that DSR has re-valued the degree equation, decided to re-commit to the University and his teammates and that he takes this team all the way next year. Why would they rush to make a formal announcement when they just did that a week ago and it turned out to be premature? There's no reason to confirm anything until the deadline to declare has passed--whenever that is. Throw in that information from the Gtown staff basically never, ever leaks and I'm not sure what's surprising about this. I agree. But I'll still feel better when there is an official announcement.
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Post by bamahoya11 on Apr 8, 2015 9:34:33 GMT -5
[/p] All that said, this whole situation has been concerning to me, from the fact that the staff seemed completely blindsided by the initial decision to leave, to the fact that the University seemed to close any door to his return, to the fact that he is now coming back and has acknowledged it publicly before the staff has offered any comment at all. Granted, this probably happens to other teams all the time, and I just don't notice the day-to-day drama because it doesn't affect me. But count me as someone who will breathe the ultimate sigh of relief once the University issues a release.
[/quote] What are you referring to in making this statement? I am unaware that the University Administration made any comments that could have been inferred to close the door on his return, but then I am at the opposite end of the country and may have missed something. [/quote] I construed the statement by the University that he was "planning to hire an agent" to close the door on his possible return. They didn't equivocate, such as that he was "exploring" the draft or the like. Of course, I get that he might well have changed his mind before hiring an agent. And maybe he told the University that so that folks wouldn't start pressuring him to return. It just seems curious to me that the statement seemed pretty final in nature and now he's back. I'm not intending to be negative; couldn't be more excited that he's back. Just will be glad once the school officially puts everything to bed.
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Post by cheer48 on Apr 8, 2015 9:36:35 GMT -5
Hello Pops.....amazing what a deflated basketball can do......thanks for your continuing inspiration to young men !
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Post by Cambridge on Apr 8, 2015 9:45:38 GMT -5
This whole episode has been really strange Unusual for sure, but I credit someone who has the self-confidence and good sense to recognize when they've made a public mistake and to correct it rather than acknowledge the error. For all we know, he heard what Kevin Braswell had to say about playing overseas, saw the teams and fans descending on his hometown, looked at the mock draft boards, and decided it was worth coming back for one more year. No fault in that--maybe just a bit rash in coming to the decision so quickly. I can also imagine at the end of a long and exhausting season (physically and emotionally) to think "that's it, I'm done" and then have a completely different perspective on it after catching your breath.
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 8, 2015 9:49:36 GMT -5
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Apr 8, 2015 10:07:54 GMT -5
DSR said he's coming back himself from the link to his Instagram posted a page or so ago. Pretty sure that's all the affirmation you need. However I do get the being wary if he's eligible for whatever reason remains.
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Post by MassHoya on Apr 8, 2015 10:36:05 GMT -5
As a fan, this is great news. For D'Vauntes, a hard call for anyone 22 years old to make. All of us have made decisions, reconsidered them and sometimes changed our minds, sometimes on things not as important to our lives as this. We should recognize this,accept it for what it is, and get ready for next year. It sounds like DSR is.
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Post by drquigley on Apr 8, 2015 10:50:05 GMT -5
Besides being happy for the team (and let's not pretend that his loss wouldn't have been huge) I'm happy for him. I had assumed he was leaving for family financial reasons. Glad to see that that was probably not the case and that he sees more value in getting his degree and possibly, if he really improves his game, a shot at an NBA contract.
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Post by kchoya on Apr 8, 2015 11:13:17 GMT -5
I'm still a bit uncomfortable celebrating until the school acknowledges the news in some way. Does anyone know if JTIII was in Indy for the Final Four (like most coaches)? If so, it's not hard to imagine there was a personal meeting with the family at some point.... I am a bit uncomfortable celebrating as well until I know that this is 100% going to happen as well; I'd also just like the confirmation from JTIII and the University that he hasn't broken any of the rules (perhaps even inadvertently), so as to place his eligibility in question going into next season. Because it does appear that he is coming back, I am happy for him--he has a legitimate chance to be an All-American next year and a top-10 star nationally in terms of upside. Of course, I'm also happy for us as fans because the team will be much, much better with him than without him. If we then swung for the fences and somehow got another guard to shore up our depth all the more we would probably be a legitimate top 10 team. We are most likely a top 15 team with him, and we have some of the highest upside in recent memory.
All that said, this whole situation has been concerning to me, from the fact that the staff seemed completely blindsided by the initial decision to leave, to the fact that the University seemed to close any door to his return, to the fact that he is now coming back and has acknowledged it publicly before the staff has offered any comment at all. Granted, this probably happens to other teams all the time, and I just don't notice the day-to-day drama because it doesn't affect me. But count me as someone who will breathe the ultimate sigh of relief once the University issues a release.
Wow, you're reading way too much into this.
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