TBird41
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 27, 2015 15:06:18 GMT -5
Why would Richard Pitino take this job? This is an enormous rebuild. Obekpa seems like to be gone and Rysheed Jordan seemed like he had checked out in January, so both of those guys are huge question marks. So you're left with nobody with more than 200 minutes experience in a season and two three-star recruits. I think there's a better chance they go 0-18 in the conference next year than that they get Richard Pitino. Slim pickings to say the least but I think you could recruit out of that hole very quickly. Pitino isn’t exactly beloved in Minnesota and it’s probably easier to recruit top talent to St Johns. Personally Danny Hurley would be my guy. I can see Pitino deciding that MN is not a great fit for him b/c he'd prefer to be on the east coast, where his recruiting ties are. He wouldn't be walking away from a powerhouse--the Gophers are graduating their top two leading scorers from a team that didn't make the NIT this year, and while they have a good recruiting class coming in, that recruiting class illustrates why Pitino might prefer to be at SJU--two of his four recruits are from NYC, and one is from Maryland. I could also see him turning down SJU if he likes what he's got in MN.
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Post by Filo on Mar 27, 2015 15:24:18 GMT -5
Slim pickings to say the least but I think you could recruit out of that hole very quickly. Pitino isn’t exactly beloved in Minnesota and it’s probably easier to recruit top talent to St Johns. Personally Danny Hurley would be my guy. I can see Pitino deciding that MN is not a great fit for him b/c he'd prefer to be on the east coast, where his recruiting ties are. He wouldn't be walking away from a powerhouse--the Gophers are graduating their top two leading scorers from a team that didn't make the NIT this year, and while they have a good recruiting class coming in, that recruiting class illustrates why Pitino might prefer to be at SJU--two of his four recruits are from NYC, and one is from Maryland. I could also see him turning down SJU if he likes what he's got in MN. Going out on a limb there TBird
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Post by boxout05 on Mar 27, 2015 15:38:31 GMT -5
At first I assumed they could do no worse than Masiello, right? That's promising. Going from Manhattan to SJU is a hell of a jump though and he'd need to recruit an entirely different level of talent...does he already have those connections or do his NCAA appearances curry any favor with the guys he'd need to recruit from the city?
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Post by richfame on Mar 27, 2015 16:29:22 GMT -5
Patrick Ewing?
Maybe chris mullin?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 27, 2015 16:49:16 GMT -5
Hopkins is dirty -- he is part of the slime at SU. I do not even know if he is still the heir apparent there. Plus, what would he bring in terms of recruiting or Xs and Os? And if he were just taking the job until Jimmy B. retired, SJU would be putting itself in a foreseeable mess in a few years. Hopkins is the lead recruiter at SU. He might want to escape Magoo's shadow. But there is the slime factor.
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Post by tashoya on Mar 27, 2015 19:05:43 GMT -5
Danny Hurley at St Johns, Bobby at Depaul and Wojo at Marquette?..Lol So many teams to hate, so little time... Here a slap, there a slap, everywhere a floor slap.
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Post by drquigley on Mar 27, 2015 20:20:06 GMT -5
Patrick Ewing? Maybe chris mullin? Johnny fans would flip if they hired Ewing. Too many bad memories. The Buffalo coach Hurley (Bob?) would be great. He did a fabulous job at Buffalo.
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Post by tashoya on Mar 27, 2015 20:51:35 GMT -5
It sounds cool to include names like Chris Mullin and Mark Jackson but I agree with those that question whether those guys are good choices considering the fact that recruiting is incredibly important. Granted, the assistant coaching staff is just as important in that regard but a guy that has proven that he can do it at the college level, IMHO, is more important for the Johnnies right now than a "name" coach that hasn't really proven that he can get it done at the college level. As much as I hated the Hurleys as players, they sure seem to make a lot of sense (I feel like I need a shower now). It also doesn't hurt that Bob Hurley is a legend at St. Anthony's right across the river.
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Post by skyhoya on Mar 28, 2015 9:49:17 GMT -5
maybe Georgetown should hire St Johns AD?
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 28, 2015 10:32:22 GMT -5
maybe Georgetown should hire St Johns AD? Reports in NYC are that Chris Monasch, the St. John's AD, wanted to give Steve Lavin a multi-year extension, and that the university president did not want to do so, which ultimately led to Lavin's departure. If Monasch truly wanted to keep Lavin as head coach, would you want him running your athletic department?
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Post by prhoya on Mar 28, 2015 10:40:35 GMT -5
maybe Georgetown should hire St Johns AD? Reports in NYC are that Chris Monasch, the St. John's AD, wanted to give Steve Lavin a multi-year extension, and that the university president did not want to do so, which ultimately led to Lavin's departure. If Monasch truly wanted to keep Lavin as head coach, would you want him running your athletic department? You're giving a lot of credit to rumors.
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njhoya78
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 28, 2015 11:33:13 GMT -5
Metta World Peace (nee Ron Artest) has tweeted that he is interested in the head coaching job at St. John's. That would be very interesting.
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Post by SirSaxa on Mar 28, 2015 11:50:47 GMT -5
As much as I hated the Hurleys as players, they sure seem to make a lot of sense (I feel like I need a shower now). It also doesn't hurt that Bob Hurley is a legend at St. Anthony's right across the river. The Hurleys are part of NY Metro area Hoops royalty. Both have proven themselves as players and coaches and each one would benefit from the family ties to HS basketball in the area. Full disclosure, I don't hate Bobby Hurley. He was a solid college player and decent pro. Maybe the #1 thing he has going for him? He never liked his college teammate Christian either!
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Post by Hoyaholic on Mar 28, 2015 13:01:17 GMT -5
Lavin's coaching skill set has been much maligned ever since he took over at UCLA, but I still would have preferred that he stay at St. Johns. St. Johns is not anyone's dream job - I worry that the downside risk of changing here outweighs any possible upside. I am fine with St. Johns being a middle of the pack BE team, and occasional tourney team, and with Lavin they would have been no worse than that for the foreseeable future.
On the other hand, who knows what type of coach you can attract to Queens, and how long he will stay there if he has any degree of success.
[Also, if Lavin leaving was a likely outcome, how did the university wait to do it until after Howland was off the table? That would have been a tremendous fit. Damn.]
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Post by matersammich on Mar 28, 2015 13:32:32 GMT -5
Metta World Peace (nee Ron Artest) has tweeted that he is interested in the head coaching job at St. John's. That would be very interesting. It would be entertaining, that's for sure.
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Post by hoyabinx on Mar 28, 2015 13:52:21 GMT -5
If I'm St. John's, I take a flyer and call Rick Pitino's agent. Pitino has accomplished everything at Louisville, hated the move to the ACC, and is a New York guy. About 1% chance he'd be interested, but if he were.......
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 28, 2015 14:44:52 GMT -5
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Post by CTHoya08 on Mar 28, 2015 15:13:55 GMT -5
If I'm St. John's, I take a flyer and call Rick Pitino's agent. Pitino has accomplished everything at Louisville, hated the move to the ACC, and is a New York guy. About 1% chance he'd be interested, but if he were....... Can't hurt, right? I think having one Hurley at DePaul and one at St. John's would, at the very least, get some newspaper puff pieces about them/the conference, which would be nice from a visibility perspective.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 28, 2015 18:43:50 GMT -5
Barnes out at Texas. Any chance he's a fit?
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Post by tashoya on Mar 28, 2015 18:49:54 GMT -5
The Johnnies should hire HoyaTalk as head coach. Some of us are great at TO calling, player rotation suggestions, player development and I saw a post today indicating that just saying "recruit better" leads to better recruiting. Some people here say that a lot so that should mean that recruiting would be a strength too. What's not to love? I'm looking forward to the thread entitled "At what point does HoyaTalk's seat get warm?"
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