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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2015 14:58:09 GMT -5
I agree for the most part but Otto was the best player on the floor for the Hoyas on average those last 5-6 games of that season. He was in double figures in almost all of his last 10 games and the ones he didn't he had big rebounding numbers.. Paul's starting for sure, too smart, too skilled, too poised, too much like his HC in demeanor and approach.. I think Simsanity has something to say about that claim.... He would have a strong argument maybe 1A 1B? Otto over his last 7 frosh season avg'd 14.1ppg 7.1 reb www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/otto-porter-1/gamelog/2012/
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Post by prhoya on Jul 30, 2015 16:24:25 GMT -5
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Post by hoyabinx on Aug 2, 2015 10:20:12 GMT -5
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Aug 2, 2015 10:37:51 GMT -5
Please say it is so! That would be awesome!
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Post by hoya95 on Aug 2, 2015 16:40:15 GMT -5
Well, this news is less good... Casual Hoya casualhoya · 8m8 minutes ago D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera spotted walking with crutches on campus. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday.
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Post by dense on Aug 2, 2015 20:23:06 GMT -5
Well, this news is less good... Casual Hoya casualhoya · 8m8 minutes ago D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera spotted walking with crutches on campus. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday. might just be a rolled ankle. Any case I'd rather have this now then later. The Italy trip with him would be nice but maybe this experience playing without him will help Peak and Ike get the confidence to hunt their offense more.
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Post by michaelgrahmstylie on Aug 2, 2015 21:53:50 GMT -5
Well, this news is less good... Casual Hoya casualhoya · 8m8 minutes ago D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera spotted walking with crutches on campus. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday. might just be a rolled ankle. Any case I'd rather have this now then later. The Italy trip with him would be nice but maybe this experience playing without him will help Peak and Ike get the confidence to hunt their offense more. Couldn't agree more. I do believe if it was something very serious there would have been an announcement by now.
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Post by tashoya on Aug 2, 2015 22:35:15 GMT -5
might just be a rolled ankle. Any case I'd rather have this now then later. The Italy trip with him would be nice but maybe this experience playing without him will help Peak and Ike get the confidence to hunt their offense more. Couldn't agree more. I do believe if it was something very serious there would have been an announcement by now. An announcement? In the offseason? From Georgetown? You might literally be the only poster that would expect that. Hopefully it's just a sprain or something similarly minor. I'm excited to see DSR play and lead in his final season as a Hoya and I would hate for him to miss out on any of his senior year experience.
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Post by kchoya on Aug 2, 2015 23:41:49 GMT -5
might just be a rolled ankle. Any case I'd rather have this now then later. The Italy trip with him would be nice but maybe this experience playing without him will help Peak and Ike get the confidence to hunt their offense more. Couldn't agree more. I do believe if it was something very serious there would have been an announcement by now. I have to agree with tashoya. Why would you think there would be an announcement?
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Post by gutuna on Aug 3, 2015 0:13:45 GMT -5
Couldn't agree more. I do believe if it was something very serious there would have been an announcement by now. I have to agree with tashoya. Why would you think there would be an announcement? DSR's leg could have been amputated and JTIII would be closely guarding the secret ahead of the first tip.
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Post by vv83 on Aug 3, 2015 6:43:06 GMT -5
DSR only played in a couple of kenner games this summer, one game around July 11 and another around july 26 - and he left both of those games with some kind of foot pain/injury. So it seems that this may be something that has been a nagging problem for the past 3+ weeks
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Post by Deleted on Aug 19, 2015 11:58:38 GMT -5
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Post by RBHoya on Aug 19, 2015 15:12:25 GMT -5
Not sure if it's been discussed already, and I'm cognizant of potentially reading too much into a couple good performances against weak European teams, but is it possible that this kid breaks into the starting lineup for us? I'm in the camp that Tre/DSR/LJ/Cope/Govan is probably our most talented lineup, but that we're probably better off bringing Tre off the bench, otherwise we have no reserve ballhanders. Thus I've thus tended to think that DSR/LJ/Paul/Ike/Govan made the most sense. But is it crazy to think that Derrickson may be even with or ahead of White already? I think a Copeland/Derrickson/Govan front court might fit together really nicely. In fact a DSR/Peak/Copeland/Derrickson/Govan lineup has a sort of NBA feel to it, with each player having NBA measurables for their position and each player being a threat to score on every possession. Having 2 talented and experienced guys like Campbell and White off the bench would be very valuable too. Combine that with whomever emerges from the Agau/Campbell/Cameron mix, a potential energy guy in Kaleb and hopefully an improved Hayes as a situational backup center, and this team really does look like it could be pretty deep. I know we go through that same "Wow we're going to be so deep this year, JTIII is going to HAVE TO play AT LEAST a 10 man rotation!" kind of thought process every off season, and this year like every other he'll likely stick to his best 8-9 guys except when circumstances demand it. But it's starting to look like we may have 7 guys who are legitimately Big East starter caliber, and another 5 who are good enough to be BE role players, the best of whom will round out our rotation. In other words, I think this actually IS one of the deepest teams III has had, and hopefully we can make the most of that.
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Post by dense on Aug 19, 2015 16:32:11 GMT -5
Not sure if it's been discussed already, and I'm cognizant of potentially reading too much into a couple good performances against weak European teams, but is it possible that this kid breaks into the starting lineup for us? I'm in the camp that Tre/DSR/LJ/Cope/Govan is probably our most talented lineup, but that we're probably better off bringing Tre off the bench, otherwise we have no reserve ballhanders. Thus I've thus tended to think that DSR/LJ/Paul/Ike/Govan made the most sense. But is it crazy to think that Derrickson may be even with or ahead of White already? I think a Copeland/Derrickson/Govan front court might fit together really nicely. In fact a DSR/Peak/Copeland/Derrickson/Govan lineup has a sort of NBA feel to it, with each player having NBA measurables for their position and each player being a threat to score on every possession. Having 2 talented and experienced guys like Campbell and White off the bench would be very valuable too. Combine that with whomever emerges from the Agau/Campbell/Cameron mix, a potential energy guy in Kaleb and hopefully an improved Hayes as a situational backup center, and this team really does look like it could be pretty deep. I know we go through that same "Wow we're going to be so deep this year, JTIII is going to HAVE TO play AT LEAST a 10 man rotation!" kind of thought process every off season, and this year like every other he'll likely stick to his best 8-9 guys except when circumstances demand it. But it's starting to look like we may have 7 guys who are legitimately Big East starter caliber, and another 5 who are good enough to be BE role players, the best of whom will round out our rotation. In other words, I think this actually IS one of the deepest teams III has had, and hopefully we can make the most of that. I think last year was the first time he actually played a 9 man rotation all year.
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Post by dense on Aug 19, 2015 16:35:17 GMT -5
My big thing is actually seeing Copeland play the 3 most of the season. He likes to float to the perimeter when not being aggressive so I hope his jumper is more consistent this year. Also Mourning in the vids looks like he is getting big as hell up top.... Very solid strength work
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Post by prhoya on Aug 19, 2015 16:51:06 GMT -5
RB and dense, I'm curious to know how many minutes per game you think does a player need to be considered part of the rotation.
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Post by dense on Aug 19, 2015 18:46:08 GMT -5
RB and dense, I'm curious to know how many minutes per game you think does a player need to be considered part of the rotation. To me it's that you get in every game. Even if it's 5 mins. You have a set role that you will be used. Last year Hopkins, White, Campbell and Bowen pretty much played every game.
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Post by DownTownJoeyBrown on Aug 19, 2015 19:27:13 GMT -5
Not sure if it's been discussed already, and I'm cognizant of potentially reading too much into a couple good performances against weak European teams, but is it possible that this kid breaks into the starting lineup for us? I'm in the camp that Tre/DSR/LJ/Cope/Govan is probably our most talented lineup, but that we're probably better off bringing Tre off the bench, otherwise we have no reserve ballhanders. Thus I've thus tended to think that DSR/LJ/Paul/Ike/Govan made the most sense. But is it crazy to think that Derrickson may be even with or ahead of White already? I think a Copeland/Derrickson/Govan front court might fit together really nicely. In fact a DSR/Peak/Copeland/Derrickson/Govan lineup has a sort of NBA feel to it, with each player having NBA measurables for their position and each player being a threat to score on every possession. Having 2 talented and experienced guys like Campbell and White off the bench would be very valuable too. Combine that with whomever emerges from the Agau/Campbell/Cameron mix, a potential energy guy in Kaleb and hopefully an improved Hayes as a situational backup center, and this team really does look like it could be pretty deep. I know we go through that same "Wow we're going to be so deep this year, JTIII is going to HAVE TO play AT LEAST a 10 man rotation!" kind of thought process every off season, and this year like every other he'll likely stick to his best 8-9 guys except when circumstances demand it. But it's starting to look like we may have 7 guys who are legitimately Big East starter caliber, and another 5 who are good enough to be BE role players, the best of whom will round out our rotation. In other words, I think this actually IS one of the deepest teams III has had, and hopefully we can make the most of that. I think last year was the first time he actually played a 9 man rotation all year. I thought the exact same thing earlier today around always believing we have a deep team in August. This time I feel like its the real deal though. This IS the deepest team JTIII has had by far and I am not sure how he doesnt go 10 deep. Hopefully he learned something from Hayes' performance in the tourney last year about using his bench.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Aug 19, 2015 21:37:52 GMT -5
I was thinking the same thing as well today. With absolutely no stretching, DSR, Peak, Copeland, White, Govan, Campbell and Derrickson will be in the rotation because they are simply too good, not because there is no better alternative.
That's only seven guys, but thats seven all but 100% locks. And that means if none of the rest are truly ready, we would still be good.
But the rest should add something. Hayes, Agau, Cameron, Mourning and Kaleb Johnson all have shown enough flashes to believe they may be to be a plus. I'm skeptical of a few of those, but I doubt zero out of five end up able to positively contribute.
Its hard to see us below nine players who actively positively contribute, even if these folks don't get a ton of minutes.
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Post by professorhoya on Aug 19, 2015 21:58:46 GMT -5
I was thinking the same thing as well today. With absolutely no stretching, DSR, Peak, Copeland, White, Govan, Campbell and Derrickson will be in the rotation because they are simply too good, not because there is no better alternative. That's only seven guys, but thats seven all but 100% locks. And that means if none of the rest are truly ready, we would still be good. But the rest should add something. Hayes, Agau, Cameron, Mourning and Kaleb Johnson all have shown enough flashes to believe they may be to be a plus. I'm skeptical of a few of those, but I doubt. zero of five end up able to positively contribute. Its hard to see us below nine, even if these folks dont get a ton of minutes. Akoy will play a lot once he's eligible. Too good. He was a 4 star 87 ranking similar to Derrickson's ranking and has two years of D1 practice experience. 15-23 minutes per game I think.
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