rockhoya
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,830
|
Post by rockhoya on May 24, 2015 20:15:57 GMT -5
But I thought only Kyle Anderson was fit to play guard?
|
|
MCIGuy
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Anyone here? What am I supposed to update?
Posts: 9,419
|
Post by MCIGuy on May 24, 2015 22:54:47 GMT -5
Some of us have been thinking about White being one of the primary ballhandlers ever since watching him on TV multiple times during his senior year in high school. Maybe III see things different. If I was the coach I would have insisted that White did more of that last season because he makes such good decisions with the ball and can pass over any defender.
|
|
kchoya
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Enter your message here...
Posts: 9,934
|
Post by kchoya on May 25, 2015 0:04:52 GMT -5
Some of us have been thinking about White being one of the primary ballhandlers ever since watching him on TV multiple times during his senior year in high school. Maybe III see things different. If I was the coach I would have insisted that White did more of that last season because he makes such good decisions with the ball and can pass over any defender. What are you talking about? he did a good deal of ball handling last year.
|
|
EtomicB
Blue & Gray (over 10,000 posts)
Posts: 14,850
|
Post by EtomicB on May 25, 2015 9:34:41 GMT -5
I said it don't be surprised if Paul White plays more guard than forward minutes next year. I don't see this happening Dense.. DSR will play 30+ like always, Peak Played 25+ last season so it's a good bet he plays 30 & I'd be shocked if Tre doesn't play 20+ this coming season.. That's 80 minutes right there.. White's minutes will come from the forward position(sf & pf) but he'll be one of the top handlers/facilitators on the team.. If the recruitment of back-court players for the 2016 class stays on the course its headed then I could definitely see PW getting a lot of time in the back-court in 2016-17
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 9:56:14 GMT -5
Think the comment says more about DSR's willingness to play off ball more than anything else but he could play SF and still be the, or a primary Ball Handler/facilitator
|
|
rockhoya
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,830
|
Post by rockhoya on May 25, 2015 10:02:21 GMT -5
Think the comment says more about DSR's willingness to play off ball more than anything else but he could play SF and still be the, or a primary Ball Handler/facilitator I think the comment has to do with Paul White....DSR has played multiple roles effectively and he's the established one
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 10:51:27 GMT -5
Think the comment says more about DSR's willingness to play off ball more than anything else but he could play SF and still be the, or a primary Ball Handler/facilitator I think the comment has to do with Paul White....DSR has played multiple roles effectively and he's the established one Could be right or could be a bit of both...Doesn't really matter to me all I care about is the end result Personally I like DSR better finishing plays more than him trying to create for others or going one on one at the top of the key.
|
|
MCIGuy
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Anyone here? What am I supposed to update?
Posts: 9,419
|
Post by MCIGuy on May 25, 2015 11:30:37 GMT -5
Some of us have been thinking about White being one of the primary ballhandlers ever since watching him on TV multiple times during his senior year in high school. Maybe III see things different. If I was the coach I would have insisted that White did more of that last season because he makes such good decisions with the ball and can pass over any defender. What are you talking about? he did a good deal of ball handling last year. I disagree. White deferred to DSR and Jabril to such an extent that he almost passed the ball to them everytime they were nearby rather than bring the ball up the court himself. And when in halfcourt he rarely attempted to create off the bounce. I would have told him to take up that responsibility more to better prepare him for the future.
|
|
MCIGuy
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Anyone here? What am I supposed to update?
Posts: 9,419
|
Post by MCIGuy on May 25, 2015 11:33:49 GMT -5
I said it don't be surprised if Paul White plays more guard than forward minutes next year. I don't see this happening Dense.. DSR will play 30+ like always, Peak Played 25+ last season so it's a good bet he plays 30 & I'd be shocked if Tre doesn't play 20+ this coming season.. That's 80 minutes right there.. White's minutes will come from the forward position(sf & pf) but he'll be one of the top handlers/facilitators on the team.. If the recruitment of back-court players for the 2016 class stays on the course its headed then I could definitely see PW getting a lot of time in the back-court in 2016-17 Problem is III has more quality frontcourt players than backcourt players. So to get other people time it at least wouldn't be unreasonable to allow White to fill up a few minutes each game in the backcourt.
|
|
kchoya
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Enter your message here...
Posts: 9,934
|
Post by kchoya on May 25, 2015 12:41:16 GMT -5
What are you talking about? he did a good deal of ball handling last year. I disagree. White deferred to DSR and Jabril to such an extent that he almost passed the ball to them everytime they were nearby rather than bring the ball up the court himself. And when in halfcourt he rarely attempted to create off the bounce. I would have told him to take up that responsibility more to better prepare him for the future. I disagree. Did he defer some to a senior guard and the preseason POY? Yes. Did he bring the ball up court a lot for a frosh 6-8 forward? Yes. I don't know how you can say JT3 didn't have him handle the ball.
|
|
MCIGuy
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Anyone here? What am I supposed to update?
Posts: 9,419
|
Post by MCIGuy on May 25, 2015 13:20:37 GMT -5
Then....we agree to disagree?
|
|
rockhoya
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,830
|
Post by rockhoya on May 25, 2015 13:22:10 GMT -5
What are you talking about? he did a good deal of ball handling last year. I disagree. White deferred to DSR and Jabril to such an extent that he almost passed the ball to them everytime they were nearby rather than bring the ball up the court himself. And when in halfcourt he rarely attempted to create off the bounce. I would have told him to take up that responsibility more to better prepare him for the future. You disagree with the fact that he brought the ball up court, past half-court, more than a dozen times?
|
|
MCIGuy
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Anyone here? What am I supposed to update?
Posts: 9,419
|
Post by MCIGuy on May 25, 2015 15:01:41 GMT -5
I disagree. White deferred to DSR and Jabril to such an extent that he almost passed the ball to them everytime they were nearby rather than bring the ball up the court himself. And when in halfcourt he rarely attempted to create off the bounce. I would have told him to take up that responsibility more to better prepare him for the future. You disagree with the fact that he brought the ball up court, past half-court, more than a dozen times? Maybe I'm missing something. What is the dozen times you are referring to? Are you being sarcastic or were you really keeping count? And if the latter do you think that was nearly enough times to satisfy your curiosity of seeing the ball in his hands?
|
|
rockhoya
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,830
|
Post by rockhoya on May 25, 2015 17:43:53 GMT -5
You disagree with the fact that he brought the ball up court, past half-court, more than a dozen times? Maybe I'm missing something. What is the dozen times you are referring to? Are you being sarcastic or were you really keeping count? And if the latter do you think that was nearly enough times to satisfy your curiosity of seeing the ball in his hands? Yeah, you are missing something. It was at least a dozen times, I'm just being conservative, it was well over that and, yes, that's, objectively, a lot for a 6'9 freshman to be handling the ball in the open court......I'm not saying it satisfies any curiosity just that III has shown that he trusts Paul's handle enough to give him that type of responsibility, which is nothing to scoff at
|
|
MCIGuy
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Anyone here? What am I supposed to update?
Posts: 9,419
|
Post by MCIGuy on May 25, 2015 22:13:34 GMT -5
Okay. Of course some young players in a similar position get to do that dozen times scenario (conservatively speaking) in one freaking game. While I didn't expect Paul to take on that much responsibility on a regular basis, my point is that particular skill of his could have been utilized much more, especially early on in the season when people were worried that DSR's subpar numbers were the result of having to do so much of the ballhandling responsibilities. And during BE games when teams were actively pressuring DSR and Jabril using Paul, along with LJ, to purposely take on some of that load would have been ideal IMO.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:15:59 GMT -5
sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-the-dagger/a-post-draft-declaration-look-at-next-season-s-top-20-teams-132044458.html15. Georgetown Key losses: G Jabril Trawick, C Joshua Smith, F Mikael Hopkins, F Aaron Bowen Key returners: F Isaac Copeland, F L.J. Peak, G Tre Campbell, F Paul White, G D’Vauntes Smith-Rivera Notable newcomers: F Marcus Derrickson, C Jessie Govan, G Kaleb Johnson Outlook: Expectations for Georgetown seesawed right along with D'Vauntes Smith-Rivera as the all-Big East guard initially announced he was declaring for the draft only to change his mind a few days later. That was probably a wise choice considering he's projected as a second-round pick at best and he has the chance to lead the Hoyas to a memorable season next winter. As a junior, Smith-Rivera tallied team highs of 16.3 points and 3.2 assists per game, leading Georgetown to a 22-win season and a victory over Eastern Washington in the opening round of the NCAA tournament. He'll be the centerpiece of a team that has several rising sophomores who could be ready to take a big jump. Promising forward Isaac Copeland is the most obvious breakout candidate, but fellow forwards Paul White and L.J. Peak and point guard Tre Campbell should all be better with a year under their belt. The Hoyas are also adding another strong recruiting class anchored by four-star center Jessie Govan, who could see immediate playing time as John Thompson III seeks a replacement for Joshua Smith. Ultimately, the range of possible outcomes for Georgetown is wide next season because so much depends on the development of their sophomore class, but the return of Smith-Rivera at least gives the Hoyas a senior leader. If Copeland enjoys a breakout season and Campbell, White and Peak make strides too, a Big East title is not out of the question.
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on May 25, 2015 22:41:06 GMT -5
|
|
kchoya
Platinum Hoya (over 5000 posts)
Enter your message here...
Posts: 9,934
|
Post by kchoya on May 25, 2015 23:06:39 GMT -5
Then....we agree to disagree? Yes. I just remember thinking on multiple occasions how smooth he looked bringing the ball up the court, and thinking what a luxury it is to have him be able to do that. Maybe the disagreement is over what a "primary ball handler" is.
|
|
rockhoya
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,830
|
Post by rockhoya on May 26, 2015 6:52:40 GMT -5
Then....we agree to disagree? Yes. I just remember thinking on multiple occasions how smooth he looked bringing the ball up the court, and thinking what a luxury it is to have him be able to do that. Maybe the disagreement is over what a "primary ball handler" is. Yup, it's because it was a luxury. Having a 6'9" frosh regularly bring the ball up court (mostly during OOC) is something very few teams can do....
|
|
Jack
Diamond Hoya (over 2500 posts)
Posts: 3,411
|
Post by Jack on May 26, 2015 7:35:41 GMT -5
Whether or not he actually brought the ball over the time line, White certainly did create a fair amount of offense against Xavier in the BET and then again against EWU in the NCAA. I hope and expect to see more of that next year.
|
|