daveg023
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 15, 2015 20:24:18 GMT -5
Anyone watching this? Just a brief segment in the beginning on Georgetown and the 1989 Regional Final with Duke ('Zo vs Laettner). Also compares the national perceptions of the two programs as the "black team" and the "white team"...
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daveg023
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Post by daveg023 on Mar 15, 2015 20:45:45 GMT -5
I'm too young to remember this game but know we were the #1 seed in the region. Given Duke was the #2, was this considered a 50-50 game? Or was this an upset at the time?
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Mar 15, 2015 21:13:32 GMT -5
Anyone watching this? Just a brief segment in the beginning on Georgetown and the 1989 Regional Final with Duke ('Zo vs Laettner). Also compares the national perceptions of the two programs as the "black team" and the "white team"... I saw the advert for the show but I can only assume this is a 4 hour program and I just can't commit that sort of time. Laetnner was easy to hate for exceedingly apparent reasons.
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Post by DallasHoya on Mar 15, 2015 21:19:32 GMT -5
I remember it as a 50/50 game. Hoyas almost lost to Princeton at the buzzer, and had too close for comfort games against Notre Dame and NC State. Most of the country was rooting for Duke and against us, and there a questionable traveling in the NC State game in our favor that everyone complained about. As bummed out as I was after that game, Alonzo was just a freshman, Bryant and Tillman would be seniors, and we had a top-ranked recruiting class coming in on paper (which never materialized). We didn't realize it at the time, but it turned out to be a changing of the guard in the college bball.
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Mar 15, 2015 23:05:22 GMT -5
I remember Jaren having a very off night. Couldn't buy a bucket. We were down pretty big early in the second half before making a nice late run. Got it close but couldn't get over the hump. Great team, very sad result.
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Post by Thomas on Mar 16, 2015 7:17:57 GMT -5
Laettner mentioned that everyone saying how much better a freshman Alonzo Mourning was than him really motivated him to play well in that game.
The film touched on a lot of unknown and unexpected aspects of Laettner's basketball career including his all-white suburban private high school team getting into a brawl with an all-black team during a game after Laettner elbowed a player. His bullying/motivating of Bobby Hurley and Grant Hill, Laettner mentioned that he would see how angry B.Hurley got if you messed with him, and it caused him to mess with him all the time. He'd also slap Grant Hill on the back of his head all the time. They even talked about the gay rumors about him and Brian Davis. I didn't think they would go there, but they did. They showed clips of a game at LSU during his SR year in which the LSU fans were chanting gay slurs at him. Laettner was actually taunting the crowd back, Coach K called him over and told him to stop because "You're Gonna Get Us Killed"!! They also touched on his NBA career briefly and had Sydney Lowe(his coach during his first few years in the NBA) talking about how difficult a person he was. S.Lowe actually called Coach K during C.Laettner's rookie year to get advice on how to deal with him.
The best part of the film to me was this quote from former Duke guard Brian Davis about the Fab Five, "They Talk All This Uncle Tom SH@#, And I'm Like I'm More Hood, Street Than Any Mutha F@#KA On That Team"!!
tashoya, the film is an hour and a half long.
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 16, 2015 20:45:14 GMT -5
I remember it as a 50/50 game. Hoyas almost lost to Princeton at the buzzer, and had too close for comfort games against Notre Dame and NC State. Most of the country was rooting for Duke and against us, and there a questionable traveling in the NC State game in our favor that everyone complained about. As bummed out as I was after that game, Alonzo was just a freshman, Bryant and Tillman would be seniors, and we had a top-ranked recruiting class coming in on paper (which never materialized). We didn't realize it at the time, but it turned out to be a changing of the guard in the college bball. As I recall, we were the 1 seed because we had absolutely crushed it in the BET that year. It appeared that we were peaking at the right time, but as it turned out, the BET was our peak. I don't believe we played as well in any of the NCAA tournament games as we played in each BET game that year. So I think the game was clearly a toss-up, at best.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 17, 2015 6:14:31 GMT -5
And within that one game, there was one moment. Phil Henderson crammed right in Zo's face. The game, and our run at the top under Pops was over.
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Post by TC on Mar 17, 2015 7:23:45 GMT -5
This was a very strange 30 for 30 - the whole "5 prongs of the hatred of Christian Laettner" was really weird and abstract, I wasn't really sure how Rob Lowe fit into the whole thing, and the choice of interview subjects (Coach K's wife, Ken Jeong from the Hangover, Georgetown Professor Michael Eric Dyson, brand consultants) was all over the map. They spent less time on the ones I thought mattered (Rod Sellers, Bobby Hurley, Aminu Timberlake, Jim Calhoun) and they could have really used Pitino.
I didn't think it was one of the better ones - the series works better when it breaks things down historically or focuses on relating sports to social issues. I thought they did a decent job of hitting on all the points you'd want them to though.
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Post by rambis on Mar 17, 2015 8:04:17 GMT -5
I painfully remember the Henderson dunk. That might have been the best team we've had since the championship team. Alonzo was a freshman and had a 6 blocks-per-game average through a stretch of that season. We had Smitty, Jaren Jackson, Dwayne Bryant, and Mark Tillmon for scoring. Smitty won BE player of the year and was also tournament MVP. We were favored by many to win the title after winning the BET by an average margin of more than twenty points per game. But I don't remember the game ever being about Laettner v. Mourning. That's seems a bit revisionist. We were expected to roll to the Final Four and Duke's win was one of the biggest regional final upsets featuring a 1 v. 2 seed matchup.
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