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Post by hoyaboya on Mar 25, 2015 11:42:53 GMT -5
DePaul's play-by-play guy this morning on the radio indicated he doesn't necessarily believe some of the "national" names that have been associated with the DePaul opening, mentioned that sometimes coaches and media put names out there to increase their profile...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 25, 2015 12:07:00 GMT -5
Despite reports to the contrary, Bobby Hurley has not reached an agreement to remain the coach of the Buffalo Bulls, a source told ESPN.com's Jeff Goodman on Wednesday.
A source had told ESPN on Tuesday that Hurley, whose team lost to West Virginia in the round of 64, was expected to interview at DePaul this weekend for the job vacated by Oliver Purnell, who was 54-105 in five seasons.” From Espn
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Mar 25, 2015 12:16:52 GMT -5
Sounds like a leverage play to me. Would love to be wrong.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Mar 25, 2015 20:35:58 GMT -5
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Post by tashoya on Mar 25, 2015 20:51:03 GMT -5
I agree with you. And I'm very surprised they're extending him if it turns out to be true. I get that St. John's isn't the destination for a coach or for players that it used to be but, if there were such a stat for college basketball coaches, I don't think Lavin would fare very in the WARP category.
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Post by GIGAFAN99 on Mar 25, 2015 21:25:27 GMT -5
A lot of lamenting Lavin on this board. I don't love him but with the vacated seasons...
20-win years
1992-2010: 3
2010-2015: 3
Tough times post-Lou for St. Johns. This isn't a Purnell situation. Even if Lavin is all recruiting and no coaching, well, that's better than recent history. I can see how he gets extended.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Mar 26, 2015 0:09:41 GMT -5
A lot of lamenting Lavin on this board. I don't love him but with the vacated seasons... 20-win years 1992-2010: 3 2010-2015: 3 Tough times post-Lou for St. Johns. This isn't a Purnell situation. Even if Lavin is all recruiting and no coaching, well, that's better than recent history. I can see how he gets extended. The problem is that Lavin hasn't even recruited that well in recent years. Maybe he'll turn it around.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Mar 26, 2015 6:51:08 GMT -5
A lot of lamenting Lavin on this board. I don't love him but with the vacated seasons... 20-win years 1992-2010: 3 2010-2015: 3 Tough times post-Lou for St. Johns. This isn't a Purnell situation. Even if Lavin is all recruiting and no coaching, well, that's better than recent history. I can see how he gets extended. I hear you Giga, but isn't that called settling? The guy is a lousy game coach and a lot of the recruits he gets can't stay on the floor. He can't run the johnnies at the level needed to return them to prominence.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Mar 26, 2015 8:15:19 GMT -5
If SJU had candidates lined up who it felt could make them a powerhouse, I think Lavin would be back on ESPN. Those coaches do not want to be a SJU. It is not an easy job; Lavin is a competent, if not great, coach; and things could be a LOT worse.
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Post by NCHoya on Mar 26, 2015 8:36:36 GMT -5
If Jamie Dixon is being mentioned at all for the Depaul job, how is he not being considered by St Johns? Dixon has already pulled NYC metro players over to pitt and he hates the ACC. I actually do not think it would be that hard to find a coach better than Lavin.
But since all that no longer matters with this extension, hopefully with the contract stability, Lavin can pop a few strong recruits now. Next season looks ugly on paper. Rysheed Jordan is talented, but he is not the most dependable kid and Obekpa got suspended for doing something dumb/selfish at the absolute worst possible time - talk about letting down your senior teammates. No good reasons for optimism right now.
As for Depaul, just hire anyone willing to put in the work. I do not see this being a big name coach, Drew would be a homerun in my opinion because he is a well known name and he would work his ass off to be successful at a bigger job.
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Post by chep3 on Mar 26, 2015 9:16:49 GMT -5
Lavin is a mediocre coach at best. He's obviously never been a great game planner. Recruiting wise, his first two classes were great, getting Pointer, Harrison, Harkless, Phil Greene, Amir Garrett, Sampson, and Obekpa. Since that the only players of note he's recruited are Jordan and Brandon Sampson. If his first two years of recruiting was a flash in the pan, then I don't see what he brings to the table there.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Mar 26, 2015 10:05:00 GMT -5
If SJU had candidates lined up who it felt could make them a powerhouse, I think Lavin would be back on ESPN. Those coaches do not want to be a SJU. It is not an easy job; Lavin is a competent, if not great, coach; and things could be a LOT worse. I wouldn't assume that SJU is operating with a singularity of purpose.
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Post by Big Dog on Mar 26, 2015 10:09:37 GMT -5
If DePaul gets Hurley, that is exactly the kind of guy they need. Can't think of a better hire--young, hungry coach but who also brings some buzz because of his name.
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Post by wrestlemania on Mar 27, 2015 8:48:02 GMT -5
If SJU had candidates lined up who it felt could make them a powerhouse, I think Lavin would be back on ESPN. Those coaches do not want to be a SJU. It is not an easy job; Lavin is a competent, if not great, coach; and things could be a LOT worse. I wouldn't assume that SJU is operating with a singularity of purpose. That's consistent with what I've heard -- higher-ups are divided on what to do, and money is a big issue. The lack of leadership from the top probably means they were hoping he'd leave and make the issue go away. Situation isn't doing the program any favors.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Mar 27, 2015 11:13:11 GMT -5
I wouldn't assume that SJU is operating with a singularity of purpose. That's consistent with what I've heard -- higher-ups are divided on what to do, and money is a big issue. The lack of leadership from the top probably means they were hoping he'd leave and make the issue go away. Situation isn't doing the program any favors. Apparently Chris Mullin has been spending a lot more time around the program in the past year, after being not around for a long time.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 27, 2015 12:08:06 GMT -5
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 27, 2015 12:56:17 GMT -5
Word on johnnyjungle.com is that Lavin is out and Mullin is in. Probably just as reliable as all of the others rumors to date. I don't think anybody really knows what is going to happen at St. John's, and that includes Lavin, athletic director Chris Monasch, and the new university president. The perceived dysfunctionality in Jamaica, Queens is very troubling insofar as it affects the perception of the Big East Conference in New York City.
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Post by SDHoya on Mar 27, 2015 13:06:50 GMT -5
Other than the fact that he is Chris Mullin, what would be the purpose of that hire? Does he have any coaching experience?
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Mar 27, 2015 13:13:57 GMT -5
If DePaul gets Hurley, that is exactly the kind of guy they need. Can't think of a better hire--young, hungry coach but who also brings some buzz because of his name. Just think of all those DePaul players slapping the floor and flopping.
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Post by matersammich on Mar 27, 2015 13:16:23 GMT -5
If DePaul gets Hurley, that is exactly the kind of guy they need. Can't think of a better hire--young, hungry coach but who also brings some buzz because of his name. Just think of all those DePaul players slapping the floor and flopping. Imagine the games between Marquette and DePaul....
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