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Post by This Just In on Mar 10, 2015 8:49:27 GMT -5
1. Is there a Chapter of Sigma Alpha Epsilon represented at Georgetown University?
2. And if there is a chapter of the Fraternity at Georgetown University, how is the Fraternity viewed by Faculty and students on campus (i.e. before the video and after the video has been released) since the incident at Oklahoma University?
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Post by tashoya on Mar 10, 2015 8:51:33 GMT -5
There are no fraternities/sororities at Georgetown.
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Post by TC on Mar 10, 2015 8:55:33 GMT -5
Apparently there is a SAE chapter at Georgetown, established in 2007 : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgetown_University#Greek_lifeI was kind of surprised about that, the only fraternities I remember were the service fraternity APO and the stupid business fraternity that made people carry around paddles and stay up all night and all that nonsense.
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Post by strummer8526 on Mar 10, 2015 9:00:41 GMT -5
From the Wikipedia article: "Although Jesuit schools are not obliged to disassociate from Greek systems, many do, and Georgetown University officially recognizes and funds only one of the many Greek organizations on campus, Alpha Phi Omega, the national co-ed community service fraternity."
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 10, 2015 9:02:00 GMT -5
Social frats and sororities started popping up at Georgetown in the past 5-10 years. They aren't recognized by the school, but they are there and becoming more popular.
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Post by TC on Mar 10, 2015 9:06:24 GMT -5
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Post by This Just In on Mar 10, 2015 9:48:46 GMT -5
Some news information about the Fraternity:
In 2002, a member of the Syracuse University chapter of Sigma Alpha Epsilon wore black face out to local bars.
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Post by strummer8526 on Mar 10, 2015 9:52:59 GMT -5
Social frats and sororities started popping up at Georgetown in the past 5-10 years. They aren't recognized by the school, but they are there and becoming more popular. This makes me sad.
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 10, 2015 9:59:25 GMT -5
Social frats and sororities started popping up at Georgetown in the past 5-10 years. They aren't recognized by the school, but they are there and becoming more popular. This makes me sad. Yeah. Really not a fan. I liked that there were no real frats at Georgetown (I didn't / don't count the various frats that are for a specific purpose, like the SFS Frat, Business Frat, etc, b/c the "frat" part is incidental to what they do).
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 10, 2015 10:18:26 GMT -5
Yeah. Really not a fan. I liked that there were no real frats at Georgetown (I didn't / don't count the various frats that are for a specific purpose, like the SFS Frat, Business Frat, etc, b/c the "frat" part is incidental to what they do). Delta Phi Epsilon is a full fledged fraternity, and the only such group at Georgetown to have its own fraternity house. Its web site, unfortunately, looks very dated. www.deltaphiepsilon.net/At its peak there were 15 or 20 fraternities at Georgetown, mostly among the professional schools.
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Post by SirSaxa on Mar 10, 2015 13:09:27 GMT -5
Uh oh OU.... It's starting to hit them where it hurts: Oklahoma recruit Jean Delance said he withdrew his commitment to coach Bob Stoops after seeing a video that showed fraternity members at the school chanting racist remarks.
"Very uneducated people. I wouldn't want my son or child to go there or to anywhere like that," Delance told CBS 11 in Dallas-Fort Worth on Monday. "It was just very disturbing to me. I didn't like it."
Delance, a four-star offensive lineman who is ranked No. 272 on the ESPN Junior 300, committed to the Sooners in November and visited Norman with his mother, Altavian, last weekend.
But when they returned to their home in Mesquite, Texas, the video, in which members of Sigma Alpha Epsilon also indicated that African-Americans would never be admitted to the fraternity, prompted them to rethink the commitment.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/12454429/oklahoma-sooners-recruit-jean-delance-explains-decommitmentI wonder if others might follow his lead. I believe the appropriate term is "voting with their feet".
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Post by This Just In on Mar 10, 2015 13:25:04 GMT -5
Uh oh OU.... It's starting to hit them where it hurts: Oklahoma recruit Jean Delance said he withdrew his commitment to coach Bob Stoops after seeing a video that showed fraternity members at the school chanting racist remarks.
"Very uneducated people. I wouldn't want my son or child to go there or to anywhere like that," Delance told CBS 11 in Dallas-Fort Worth on Monday. "It was just very disturbing to me. I didn't like it."
Delance, a four-star offensive lineman who is ranked No. 272 on the ESPN Junior 300, committed to the Sooners in November and visited Norman with his mother, Altavian, last weekend.
But when they returned to their home in Mesquite, Texas, the video, in which members of Sigma Alpha Epsilon also indicated that African-Americans would never be admitted to the fraternity, prompted them to rethink the commitment.espn.go.com/college-sports/recruiting/football/story/_/id/12454429/oklahoma-sooners-recruit-jean-delance-explains-decommitmentI wonder if others might follow his lead. I believe the appropriate term is "voting with their feet". Who can blame Jean Delance... Based off the video, everyone in the Fraternity knew the words to the chant which would mean that is has been passed down by previous generations. In present day, who would want to attend a school that they knew a percentage of the student were secretly making racist statements?
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Post by TC on Mar 10, 2015 14:09:32 GMT -5
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Post by DFW HOYA on Mar 10, 2015 15:38:44 GMT -5
A strange article. Trying to tie this to his high school seems a bit specious and the tie to the Jesuits is equally specious but that's what sells papers in the UK. That having been said, is speech grounds for expulsion at a state university? More than likely he will leave on his own, but the code of conduct is vague on the matter: www.ou.edu/content/dam/studentlife/documents/AllCampusStudentCode.pdf
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Post by boxout05 on Mar 10, 2015 15:43:15 GMT -5
Social frats and sororities started popping up at Georgetown in the past 5-10 years. They aren't recognized by the school, but they are there and becoming more popular. Is that where all the students are instead of home games?
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Post by TBird41 on Mar 10, 2015 15:47:19 GMT -5
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Post by DoctorHoya on Mar 10, 2015 16:08:09 GMT -5
There are no fraternities/sororities at Georgetown. Not true. There is AEPi, SigEp and DPE
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Post by TC on Mar 12, 2015 9:58:19 GMT -5
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Post by strummer8526 on Mar 12, 2015 13:03:19 GMT -5
Does that word even have a definition anymore, or is it just a requirement now that it be included in every written or spoken communication that has anything to do with issues of race, gender, disability, sexual-orientation, etc., etc.? I've honestly never heard of "privileged racism," and while I know what you're getting at, I don't think the phrase makes sense.
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Post by RusskyHoya on Mar 12, 2015 13:27:43 GMT -5
Yeah. Really not a fan. I liked that there were no real frats at Georgetown (I didn't / don't count the various frats that are for a specific purpose, like the SFS Frat, Business Frat, etc, b/c the "frat" part is incidental to what they do). Delta Phi Epsilon is a full fledged fraternity, and the only such group at Georgetown to have its own fraternity house. Its web site, unfortunately, looks very dated. www.deltaphiepsilon.net/At its peak there were 15 or 20 fraternities at Georgetown, mostly among the professional schools. As far as I know, APO - as a co-ed, community service-focused organization - was the only Greek-lettered student group to be considered a recognized student organization with "Access to Benefits," i.e., receiving funding from the University. DPE says flat out: The "professional fraternities" like "the B-Frat" (Delta Sigma Pi/Alpha Kappa Psi) were co-ed in order to enjoy Access to Benefits. AEPi, aka "the Jew-Frat" (it is a Jewish fraternity), has not, to the best of my knowledge, enjoyed Access to Benefits.
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