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Post by hoyaloya on Mar 6, 2015 20:54:01 GMT -5
I subscribed to the Lenten devotionals in the hope I would find Georgetown advancing RC rather than PC.
But last week, this appeared: “His call took me to the streets of D.C., then the streets of Ferguson, Missouri, demanding justice. As I participated in march after march…” [Emphasis added]
The text, attributed to a GU graduate “Congressional Staffer”, goes on to proclaim “the manifestation of our love for one another” … “to promote the common good and the welfare of all peoples.”
A 6’4” 295 pound man on THC, minutes after robbing a store and assaulting a clerk [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2z5-H8NSGA], strode down the middle of a street, refused to go the sidewalk and charged a police officer. The evidence - eyewitnesses and forensics, including autopsy results - established this and even Holder’s DOJ finally had to agree. No mention of these facts appears in the text of the “devotional.”
The marches, boasted about in the “devotional”, sparked looting and burning of businesses - so much for “love” and “the common good and welfare.”
Georgetown once again has chosen to promulgate PC propaganda in place of truth -
a disgraceful corruption of the Lenten devotions.
Richard M. Coleman
C ’57; GL ‘61
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Post by strummer8526 on Mar 6, 2015 23:02:19 GMT -5
A lot to wasted energy here. How about we just let the teams play their respective games, and let the Big East Tournament begin. |
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Post by kchoya on Mar 7, 2015 11:55:49 GMT -5
What's RC?
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Post by Filo on Mar 7, 2015 14:47:32 GMT -5
Richard Coleman, of course. He wants Georgetown, and everyone else for that matter, to adhere to his world view. |
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Mar 9, 2015 18:10:16 GMT -5
I generally like those Lenten devotionals.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 30, 2015 14:06:48 GMT -5
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Post by hoyaloya on Jun 3, 2015 10:38:21 GMT -5
Last month, Georgetown again gave a platform to President Obama. The news articles did not indicate whether Georgetown covered up Jesus’ symbol for this event. The president used the opportunity to decry Fox News. [Wouldst he had the same fixation about Islamic terrorism targeting Christians.] The president implied that Fox reported atypical fraudulent welfare recipients. He disingenuously claimed “I don’t know where they find them.” In fact, the most telling presentation of welfare frauds was not shown on Fox News but on the Bill Maher show in a video produced by Nancy Pelosi’s daughter and broadcast in the 1212 election year. Strange the president seemed not aware of it. www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/03/17/real_time_interviews_shameless_welfare_recipients.htmlRichard M. Coleman C ’57; GL ‘61 |
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 3, 2015 10:53:16 GMT -5
Last month, Georgetown again gave a platform to President Obama. The news articles did not indicate whether Georgetown covered up Jesus’ symbol for this event. The president used the opportunity to decry Fox News. [Wouldst he had the same fixation about Islamic terrorism targeting Christians.] The President was a panel guest of the National Association of Evangelicals and the Initiative on Catholic Social Thought and Public Life who co-hosted the meeting at Gaston Hall. A follow-up speech was given by Sen.Tim Scott (R-South Carolina). Additional participants included the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, World Vision, the Salvation Army, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, and Catholic Charities.  |
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Post by strummer8526 on Jun 3, 2015 12:32:51 GMT -5
Last month, Georgetown again gave a platform to President Obama. The news articles did not indicate whether Georgetown covered up Jesus’ symbol for this event. The president used the opportunity to decry Fox News. [Wouldst he had the same fixation about Islamic terrorism targeting Christians.] The President was a panel guest of the National Association of Evangelicals and the Initiative on Catholic Social Thought and Public Life who co-hosted the meeting at Gaston Hall. A follow-up speech was given by Sen.Tim Scott (R-South Carolina). Additional participants included the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, World Vision, the Salvation Army, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, and Catholic Charities. That's all well and good, but was Sean Hannity invited? |
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Post by aleutianhoya on Jun 3, 2015 13:04:16 GMT -5
Last month, Georgetown again gave a platform to President Obama. The news articles did not indicate whether Georgetown covered up Jesus’ symbol for this event. The president used the opportunity to decry Fox News. [Wouldst he had the same fixation about Islamic terrorism targeting Christians.] The president implied that Fox reported atypical fraudulent welfare recipients. He disingenuously claimed “I don’t know where they find them.” In fact, the most telling presentation of welfare frauds was not shown on Fox News but on the Bill Maher show in a video produced by Nancy Pelosi’s daughter and broadcast in the 1212 election year. Strange the president seemed not aware of it. www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/03/17/real_time_interviews_shameless_welfare_recipients.htmlRichard M. Coleman C ’57; GL ‘61 I really don't know what your point is. That Georgetown shouldn't invite the duly elected President of the United States to speak on its campus? OK, Quixote, even if you think that would be appropriate, virtually everyone else in the free world (which the man in question leads) disagrees. We believe in the free exchange of ideas in these parts. Of course, you're free to disagree with his ideas (as you do here), but to suggest the University shouldn't invite him to speak is silly. That the President isn't attempting to target Islamic terrorism against Christians? Hasn't he ordered drone strike after drone strike against these monsters? And, in any event, is this really the place (a symposium and discussion on social justice and welfare) for discussion of that? Your snide comment is so devoid of the context of the event as to be even more mean-spirited than usual. That the President isn't aware of fraudulent welfare recipients? You can't seriously believe that. |
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Post by TC on Jun 3, 2015 13:15:15 GMT -5
Last month, Georgetown again gave a platform to President Obama. The news articles did not indicate whether Georgetown covered up Jesus’ symbol for this event. The president used the opportunity to decry Fox News. [Wouldst he had the same fixation about Islamic terrorism targeting Christians.] The President was a panel guest of the National Association of Evangelicals and the Initiative on Catholic Social Thought and Public Life who co-hosted the meeting at Gaston Hall. A follow-up speech was given by Sen.Tim Scott (R-South Carolina). Additional participants included the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops, World Vision, the Salvation Army, the Southern Christian Leadership Conference, and Catholic Charities. So you're saying he didn't cover up all Christian symbols and that he didn't perform satanic rituals on stage? |
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Post by DanMcQ on Jun 3, 2015 16:08:46 GMT -5
Last month, Georgetown again gave a platform to President Obama. The news articles did not indicate whether Georgetown covered up Jesus’ symbol for this event. The president used the opportunity to decry Fox News. [Wouldst he had the same fixation about Islamic terrorism targeting Christians.] The president implied that Fox reported atypical fraudulent welfare recipients. He disingenuously claimed “I don’t know where they find them.” In fact, the most telling presentation of welfare frauds was not shown on Fox News but on the Bill Maher show in a video produced by Nancy Pelosi’s daughter and broadcast in the 1212 election year. Strange the president seemed not aware of it. www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/03/17/real_time_interviews_shameless_welfare_recipients.htmlRichard M. Coleman C ’57; GL ‘61 What does this have to do with Lenten Devotionals? |
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Post by strummer8526 on Jun 3, 2015 23:20:43 GMT -5
Last month, Georgetown again gave a platform to President Obama. The news articles did not indicate whether Georgetown covered up Jesus’ symbol for this event. The president used the opportunity to decry Fox News. [Wouldst he had the same fixation about Islamic terrorism targeting Christians.] The president implied that Fox reported atypical fraudulent welfare recipients. He disingenuously claimed “I don’t know where they find them.” In fact, the most telling presentation of welfare frauds was not shown on Fox News but on the Bill Maher show in a video produced by Nancy Pelosi’s daughter and broadcast in the 1212 election year. Strange the president seemed not aware of it. www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2012/03/17/real_time_interviews_shameless_welfare_recipients.htmlRichard M. Coleman C ’57; GL ‘61 What does this have to do with Lenten Devotionals? You're always moderating this message board. Wouldst you have the same fixation about Islamic terrorism targeting Christians. Or whatever. I don't even know what we're talking about anymore. |
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Post by hoyaloya on Aug 11, 2015 0:26:10 GMT -5
Aug 10, 2015
Dan McQ and DFW – just checked the site over the weekend. Thank you your thoughtful comments on the merits.
Dan MQ, perhaps I should have started another thread. But better yet, I should have called the thread “Abuse of Georgetown Platforms” because that was the gist of my message. GU’s Lenten Devotionals were abused to disseminate a particularly destructive lie. Georgetown has a bully pulpit. When someone uses it to promulgate a lie, Georgetown has an obligation to correct the lie.
DFW, I take your point that a lot of people were invited to the GU conference. I have no problem with someone articulating erroneous views at Georgetown. But again, if someone uses a GU platform to promulgate a lie, Georgetown has an obligation to correct it.
President Obama’s implication that welfare fraud was a fiction concocted by Fox News was a lie. The Pelosi tape evidenced it and, while that tape predictably was not publicized by the mass media, it was not a product of Fox.
Jack DeGioia knows how to use our pulpit. Remember his extravagant praise for a privileged woman who demanded that taxpayers fund her contraceptives. Would it not have been a more appropriate topic for the University to address the difficult question of how government protects those who need the safety net without turning entitlements into disincentives for personal responsibility?
And BO did not stop at the welfare end. He suggested people who had wealth were simply lucky. Walter Williams commented:
President Obama has often said the wealthiest Americans must make sacrifices to better the lives of poor people. At Georgetown University's May 12 poverty summit, Obama said, "If we can't ask from society's lottery winners to just make that modest investment, then really this conversation is for show."
Let's look at this "lottery winner" nonsense. A lottery is defined by Oxford Dictionaries as "a process or thing whose success or outcome is governed by chance." The question before us is whether wealth is something that is obtained by chance. Did Bill Gates acquire his wealth by luck or chance? Or did he produce something that benefited his fellow man, causing people to voluntarily reach in their pockets to pay?
Georgetown has been the beneficiary of the generosity of wealthy alumni. Two prominent examples are the McDonough Business School and the Robert and Bernice Wagner Alumni House. Bob McDonough and Bob Wagner did not “luck into” wealth. It was the product of their intelligence and hard work. Justice demanded that BO’s slur be repudiated. If Jack DeGioia did so, I missed it; I would be grateful to get the particulars.
I doubt Walter Williams knew of Bob McDonough and Bob Wagner but the conclusion to his column was on point:
Most instructive for us is that Obama's remarks were made at a university. Not a single professor has said anything about his suggestion that people accumulate great wealth by winning life's lottery. That is just more evidence about the level of corruption among today's academics.
The people running Georgetown have chosen to forsake its traditional values to embrace the popularity of the politically correct. I pray for Georgetown.
Richard M. Coleman
C ’57; GL ‘61
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Post by quickplay on Aug 11, 2015 9:38:38 GMT -5
Whew, good thing you're here to set the record straight! Because there's nothing more Christ-like than coming to the fawning defense of the wealthy!
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Post by kchoya on Aug 11, 2015 14:50:42 GMT -5
Aug 10, 2015 Dan McQ and DFW – just checked the site over the weekend. Thank you your thoughtful comments on the merits. Dan MQ, perhaps I should have started another thread. But better yet, I should have called the thread “Abuse of Georgetown Platforms” because that was the gist of my message. GU’s Lenten Devotionals were abused to disseminate a particularly destructive lie. Georgetown has a bully pulpit. When someone uses it to promulgate a lie, Georgetown has an obligation to correct the lie. DFW, I take your point that a lot of people were invited to the GU conference. I have no problem with someone articulating erroneous views at Georgetown. But again, if someone uses a GU platform to promulgate a lie, Georgetown has an obligation to correct it. President Obama’s implication that welfare fraud was a fiction concocted by Fox News was a lie. The Pelosi tape evidenced it and, while that tape predictably was not publicized by the mass media, it was not a product of Fox. Jack DeGioia knows how to use our pulpit. Remember his extravagant praise for a privileged woman who demanded that taxpayers fund her contraceptives. Would it not have been a more appropriate topic for the University to address the difficult question of how government protects those who need the safety net without turning entitlements into disincentives for personal responsibility? And BO did not stop at the welfare end. He suggested people who had wealth were simply lucky. Walter Williams commented: President Obama has often said the wealthiest Americans must make sacrifices to better the lives of poor people. At Georgetown University's May 12 poverty summit, Obama said, "If we can't ask from society's lottery winners to just make that modest investment, then really this conversation is for show." Let's look at this "lottery winner" nonsense. A lottery is defined by Oxford Dictionaries as "a process or thing whose success or outcome is governed by chance." The question before us is whether wealth is something that is obtained by chance. Did Bill Gates acquire his wealth by luck or chance? Or did he produce something that benefited his fellow man, causing people to voluntarily reach in their pockets to pay?
Georgetown has been the beneficiary of the generosity of wealthy alumni. Two prominent examples are the McDonough Business School and the Robert and Bernice Wagner Alumni House. Bob McDonough and Bob Wagner did not “luck into” wealth. It was the product of their intelligence and hard work. Justice demanded that BO’s slur be repudiated. If Jack DeGioia did so, I missed it; I would be grateful to get the particulars. I doubt Walter Williams knew of Bob McDonough and Bob Wagner but the conclusion to his column was on point: Most instructive for us is that Obama's remarks were made at a university. Not a single professor has said anything about his suggestion that people accumulate great wealth by winning life's lottery. That is just more evidence about the level of corruption among today's academics.The people running Georgetown have chosen to forsake its traditional values to embrace the popularity of the politically correct. I pray for Georgetown. Richard M. Coleman C ’57; GL ‘61 You forgot to include your mailing address in your letter (above). Also, some might say GU's biggest gift-giver lucked in to his recent increase in wealth. Finally, when did Justice Winslow demand that BO’s slur be repudiated? I missed it; I would be grateful to get the particulars. |
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