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Post by blueandgray on Feb 21, 2016 16:13:59 GMT -5
I believe we could have had him if we wanted him.
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Post by Hoyas4Ever on Feb 21, 2016 16:37:29 GMT -5
I believe we could have had him if we wanted him. I agree! Everything I read about the situation and Bracey's actions really make you think the staff cooled on him and if they wanted him, they could have gotten him. I actually think he hurt his chances of being a Hoya as well. If he would have done what Tyler Foster did and commit early instead of announcing a commitment date 9 for months out allowing the staff to consider other options.
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Post by BeantownHoya on Dec 14, 2016 12:09:17 GMT -5
Not to pile on in light of the Copeland situation but...
Probably fair to say if we wanted Bracey we could have absolutely had him and yes he did no favors delaying his announcement. So strictly taking this from the future of the program stand point...
He is AVG 26 mins a game at LA Tech, just had his 4th game in a row of exactly 8 assists. 56 assists to 14 TO's. No he is not playing the "Kentucky's" of the world but they have played South Carolina, California, Nebraska, etc - he has already moved into the starting line-up after 10 games. 8pts per game, 2.5 rebounds, good FT shooter, not a good 3pt shooter.
I know there is not an exact correlation to him not being here and Mulmore being here but I also don't think it's a stretch to say they thought when it came down to it that Mulmore was the better answer.
So if you guys tell me, would you rather have 4 years of Bracey or 2 years of Mulmore? (to be clear this has nothing against Mulmore per say, I root for the kid just like all of us, it just screams another poor evaluation).
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2016 12:23:40 GMT -5
8ppg 8assts.... He must have went on a turnover spree because it was 40 assts to 4 to's on the season last time I checked. 10-1 asst to turnover ratio. Good kid, love his game and wish him the best. I'd rather have Tremont Waters Bean! Knocks on wood...
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Post by EtomicB on Dec 14, 2016 12:24:05 GMT -5
Not to pile on in light of the Copeland situation but... Probably fair to say if we wanted Bracey we could have absolutely had him and yes he did no favors delaying his announcement. So strictly taking this from the future of the program stand point... He is AVG 26 mins a game at LA Tech, just had his 4th game in a row of exactly 8 assists. 56 assists to 14 TO's. No he is not playing the "Kentucky's" of the world but they have played South Carolina, California, Nebraska, etc - he has already moved into the starting line-up after 10 games. 8pts per game, 2.5 rebounds, good FT shooter, not a good 3pt shooter. I know there is not an exact correlation to him not being here and Mulmore being here but I also don't think it's a stretch to say they thought when it came down to it that Mulmore was the better answer. So if you guys tell me, would you rather have 4 years of Bracey or 2 years of Mulmore? (to be clear this has nothing against Mulmore per say, I root for the kid just like all of us, it just screams another poor evaluation). I'd take the 4 years of Bracey and I didn't think he was a fit for JT3.. Folks will say that having Bracey may have stopped Waters from coming though.. I'm not so sure..
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Post by eastcoastteddy58 on Dec 14, 2016 18:34:48 GMT -5
Not to pile on in light of the Copeland situation but... Probably fair to say if we wanted Bracey we could have absolutely had him and yes he did no favors delaying his announcement. So strictly taking this from the future of the program stand point... He is AVG 26 mins a game at LA Tech, just had his 4th game in a row of exactly 8 assists. 56 assists to 14 TO's. No he is not playing the "Kentucky's" of the world but they have played South Carolina, California, Nebraska, etc - he has already moved into the starting line-up after 10 games. 8pts per game, 2.5 rebounds, good FT shooter, not a good 3pt shooter. I know there is not an exact correlation to him not being here and Mulmore being here but I also don't think it's a stretch to say they thought when it came down to it that Mulmore was the better answer. So if you guys tell me, would you rather have 4 years of Bracey or 2 years of Mulmore? (to be clear this has nothing against Mulmore per say, I root for the kid just like all of us, it just screams another poor evaluation). IMO, I hope to see another Pryor next year. Between Jagan, Waters, Campbell, and Mulmore we have the PG position covered. We need another SG/SF type because I don't see Peak returning and that's a big lost in point production with both Pryor and Peak moving on.
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Post by zxhoya on Dec 14, 2016 22:29:32 GMT -5
I'm happy for the young man, I always liked him but if you had told me it's between Bracey and Waters I'd have said give me Waters. I'll be rooting for Bracey throughout his career, wish him the best.
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Post by bostonfan on Dec 15, 2016 9:54:51 GMT -5
Not to pile on in light of the Copeland situation but... Probably fair to say if we wanted Bracey we could have absolutely had him and yes he did no favors delaying his announcement. So strictly taking this from the future of the program stand point... He is AVG 26 mins a game at LA Tech, just had his 4th game in a row of exactly 8 assists. 56 assists to 14 TO's. No he is not playing the "Kentucky's" of the world but they have played South Carolina, California, Nebraska, etc - he has already moved into the starting line-up after 10 games. 8pts per game, 2.5 rebounds, good FT shooter, not a good 3pt shooter. I know there is not an exact correlation to him not being here and Mulmore being here but I also don't think it's a stretch to say they thought when it came down to it that Mulmore was the better answer. So if you guys tell me, would you rather have 4 years of Bracey or 2 years of Mulmore? (to be clear this has nothing against Mulmore per say, I root for the kid just like all of us, it just screams another poor evaluation). IMO, I hope to see another Pryor next year. Between Jagan, Waters, Campbell, and Mulmore we have the PG position covered. We need another SG/SF type because I don't see Peak returning and that's a big lost in point production with both Pryor and Peak moving on. I agree they need to adding another scoring 2 guard. I am not sure I would classify Jagan or Tre as real point guards, I think of them as more combo guards. Hopefully Jagan continues to grow and improve his shooting and Tre continues his improved play but I don't see either of them as being a real 'go to" scoring option like LJ or Pryor. They need to either recruit a player who comes into college ready to be a scorer ( not an easy thing for most high school players) or they find another 5th year player like Pryor. I think next years team could be good, but they will need to find some scoring if they lose both Pryor and Peak
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Post by Cambridge on Dec 15, 2016 11:15:04 GMT -5
IMO, I hope to see another Pryor next year. Between Jagan, Waters, Campbell, and Mulmore we have the PG position covered. We need another SG/SF type because I don't see Peak returning and that's a big lost in point production with both Pryor and Peak moving on. I agree they need to adding another scoring 2 guard. I am not sure I would classify Jagan or Tre as real point guards, I think of them as more combo guards. Hopefully Jagan continues to grow and improve his shooting and Tre continues his improved play but I don't see either of them as being a real 'go to" scoring option like LJ or Pryor. They need to either recruit a player who comes into college ready to be a scorer ( not an easy thing for most high school players) or they find another 5th year player like Pryor. I think next years team could be good, but they will need to find some scoring if they lose both Pryor and Peak Regardless of how the season turns out, one has to believe that Pryor's role in the offense and the larger media exposure he receives in BE play will be a big selling point to similar grad transfers in the future. In that sense alone it will be very valuable.
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Post by hoyalove4ever on Dec 19, 2016 13:11:05 GMT -5
Good luck to Bracey...but I see why they took Mulmore. He is still raw but even against SUCKs in the Dome his athletic ability was a factor. If he can hit a few shots, he is going to make a real impact this year and next.
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Post by centercourt400s on Dec 19, 2016 16:45:30 GMT -5
or they find another 5th year player like Pryor. Getting another valuable grad transfer would be great but be aware that the chances of finding another one like Pryor are pretty slim. He's currently 40th in the country in scoring average at 20.5 ppg. I'd love to see how he compares to other grad transfers or heck even other transfers period. He's got to be one of the very best.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 26, 2017 12:19:12 GMT -5
I believe we could have had him if we wanted him. I could've gotten Bracey. smfh!!! I was told he couldn't shoot and then I went crazy!!! That was BS!!!
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 26, 2017 12:19:51 GMT -5
Here you go this is who we missed this season. Trust me on this one.
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 26, 2017 12:21:01 GMT -5
Bracey and Chris Jenkins wanted so badly to be a Hoya!!! FACT!!!
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Jan 26, 2017 12:23:14 GMT -5
I'm happy for the young man, I always liked him but if you had told me it's between Bracey and Waters I'd have said give me Waters. I'll be rooting for Bracey throughout his career, wish him the best. Give me both, but I'd take either one. Their games are identical and thinking as well. I like Bracey though because I know he's very toughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh and a great leader!!!
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Post by beenaround on Jan 26, 2017 12:27:31 GMT -5
I would take 4 years of Bracey over 2 years of Mullamore. Honestly, Bracey is a better pg.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 12:28:53 GMT -5
Averaging about 10 and 6.... Watched him the other night go for 21 and 8. Not surprised at all...
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jan 26, 2017 12:58:04 GMT -5
I would take 4 years of Bracey over 2 years of Mullamore. Honestly, Bracey is a better pg. Isn't the better question Bracey or Moseley? With the recruitment of Waters thrown into the mix?
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Post by dense on Jan 26, 2017 13:02:51 GMT -5
Averaging about 10 and 6.... Watched him the other night go for 21 and 8. Not surprised at all... Me either. Don't get why they passed unless they though they were getting someone else. Moseley is probably always gonna be a great combo guard not a real point.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2017 13:16:34 GMT -5
Averaging about 10 and 6.... Watched him the other night go for 21 and 8. Not surprised at all... Me either. Don't get why they passed unless they though they were getting someone else. Moseley is probably always gonna be a great combo guard not a real point. Timing... It's similar to the Waters/Beatty recruitments this year. Beatty wants in but staff wants to wait on Waters etc. In DB's case it was Seventh and Crawford. Not sure if Mosely mattered. He very well could have, just not sure about it.
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