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Post by Deleted on Mar 22, 2015 12:44:16 GMT -5
I noticed that Brandon Taylor of Utah is listed as 5'10", 167 lbs. He seems to be able to contribute. We are always fixated on height, but talent trumps everything! Exactly right Bigs.. I’m more excited about the prospects of having a player that can get in the lane and cause havoc than worried about his 5’10 frame causing him trouble on D.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 23, 2015 16:04:26 GMT -5
Getting into the lane is nice and causing havoc, and nice height are nice to have, but our prospects need to have good/reliable jumpers for our offense to run properly. That should be the #1 skill for a Hoya prospect. Haven't we learned that lesson?
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Post by EtomicB on Mar 23, 2015 16:31:54 GMT -5
Getting into the lane is nice and causing havoc, and nice height are nice to have, but our prospects need to have good/reliable jumpers for our offense to run properly. That should be the #1 skill for a Hoya prospect. Haven't we learned that lesson? I agree 100% with this PR.. Brandon Taylor from Utah is a career 42% 3pt shooter.. The kid is 177 for 422 in his 3 years, very impressive..
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Mar 23, 2015 16:53:43 GMT -5
This is an excellent point. I got so sick of seeing LJ, Bowen, and others stare down wide open 3s, only to opt out and pass back to the top of the key with 6 seconds left on the shot clock.
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Post by gutuna on Mar 23, 2015 18:52:49 GMT -5
Getting into the lane is nice and causing havoc, and nice height are nice to have, but our prospects need to have good/reliable jumpers for our offense to run properly. That should be the #1 skill for a Hoya prospect. Haven't we learned that lesson? That is why Jonathan Wallace was such an effective guard for Georgetown. Speed be damned.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 20:06:33 GMT -5
Getting into the lane is nice and causing havoc, and nice height are nice to have, but our prospects need to have good/reliable jumpers for our offense to run properly. That should be the #1 skill for a Hoya prospect. Haven't we learned that lesson? Do you think Kris Dunn would have been effective here or say a Semaj Christion?
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Post by bkhoya on Mar 23, 2015 20:35:00 GMT -5
I don't think this coaching staff values guards like Dunn or Christon. They don't value dribble penetration for the dish or kickout because they don't have any plays that resemble that nor players that do that. DSR only penetrates to finish, never to draw and dish and from what I've seen of Campbell he isn't that type of player either. This program needs to value the PG position more or they'll never get the great ones.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2015 20:59:08 GMT -5
I don't think this coaching staff values guards like Dunn or Christon. They don't value dribble penetration for the dish or kickout because they don't have any plays that resemble that nor players that do that. DSR only penetrates to finish, never to draw and dish and from what I've seen of Campbell he isn't that type of player either. This program needs to value the PG position more or they'll never get the great ones. Bracey is that type of guy BK, that’s why personally he’s high on my wish list… Players like that make the game easier for everyone else, they also help get you going when your offense get’s bogged down.
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Post by prhoya on Mar 23, 2015 23:19:33 GMT -5
Getting into the lane is nice and causing havoc, and nice height are nice to have, but our prospects need to have good/reliable jumpers for our offense to run properly. That should be the #1 skill for a Hoya prospect. Haven't we learned that lesson? Do you think Kris Dunn would have been effective here or say a Semaj Christion? Yes, both are/were scorers from inside and outside who could hurt the other team in many different ways. No one left them open daring them to shoot.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 0:04:41 GMT -5
Do you think Kris Dunn would have been effective here or say a Semaj Christion? Yes, both are/were scorers from inside and outside who could hurt the other team in many different ways. No one left them open daring them to shoot. But they're not really jump shooters.. That’s not really their strength per se. With or without a reliable jumper I still think those kids would be effective. I'm not saying Bracey is either of those guys, just asking the question...
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Post by prhoya on Mar 24, 2015 0:43:31 GMT -5
Yes, both are/were scorers from inside and outside who could hurt the other team in many different ways. No one left them open daring them to shoot. But they're not really jump shooters.. That’s not really their strength per se. With or without a reliable jumper I still think those kids would be effective. I'm not saying Bracey is either of those guys, just asking the question... Again, can they be left alone or can the defender back off to let them shoot open jumpers? No. They are good. Without a reliable jumper in our offense what you get is a defender packing the lane which makes it harder to drive and cut. My original post was directed at what makes our offense run properly. To be at its best, our players need jumpers to create space for cutters and drivers.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 24, 2015 2:01:43 GMT -5
But they're not really jump shooters.. That’s not really their strength per se. With or without a reliable jumper I still think those kids would be effective. I'm not saying Bracey is either of those guys, just asking the question... Again, can they be left alone or can the defender back off to let them shoot open jumpers? No. They are good. Without a reliable jumper in our offense what you get is a defender packing the lane which makes it harder to drive and cut. My original post was directed at what makes our offense run properly. To be at its best, our players need jumpers to create space for cutters and drivers. I understand what you’re saying but remember both those guys became good shooters in college. One of the knocks on Semaj when we were recruiting him was he couldn’t shoot. Dunn had that same reputation as well in High School. I guess it also comes down to what you consider reliable.. Chris Wright was around 32 33% his last 3 years. If Bracey can do that he would be very effective.
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Post by rockhoya on Mar 24, 2015 8:52:20 GMT -5
Do you think Kris Dunn would have been effective here or say a Semaj Christion? Yes, both are/were scorers from inside and outside who could hurt the other team in many different ways. No one left them open daring them to shoot. No one, you say? I guess I watched a different game the first time we played them this year.....
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Post by prhoya on Mar 24, 2015 9:23:16 GMT -5
Lol!! That wasn't by design.
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Post by hoyazeke on Mar 24, 2015 10:14:31 GMT -5
My question is can Da Da shoot or is he a kid that doesn't shoot much from the perimeter? Does he have horrible form?
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Post by rockhoya on Mar 24, 2015 19:33:38 GMT -5
Lol!! That wasn't by design. Re watch overtime. Darin Dunn to shoot is the reason we lost. It was LJ iirc, just went under a screen and did not attempt to shortest the attempt at all even when he noticed Dunn was gonna launch it
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Post by prhoya on Mar 25, 2015 1:01:53 GMT -5
That was another missed assignment as many others during the season. When I say daring to shoot, your reference should be what the other team would do to Bowen, or Josh, Hops & Nate outside of 3 ft.
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Post by rockhoya on Mar 25, 2015 10:19:34 GMT -5
That was another missed assignment as many others during the season. When I say daring to shoot, your reference should be what the other team would do to Bowen, or Josh, Hops & Nate outside of 3 ft. That wasn't a missed assignment, it was a conscious decision to not respect his jumper and we payed for it. I'm positive LJ would say the same exact thing. Not to mention fighting through a screen has nothing to do with missed assignments and all about effort. Think what you may but the original point was that their jumpers may potentially clog up the lane, and that's been shown to be true in their games......maybe not on every possession but it doesn't have to happen on every possession to make it true. People don't even sag off AB in every single situation.
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Post by beenaround on Mar 25, 2015 10:25:17 GMT -5
I would love a penetrating, dishing pg, who can make things happen outside the set offense. It is much easier to learn to shoot then to gain the ability to create. John Wall, Chris Paul, Westbrook etc etc.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Mar 25, 2015 11:32:32 GMT -5
Without changing the offensive system, this team is better served by taller guards who can shoot from 3 (as well as defend the perimeter).
If JT3 is willing to revamp his entire offensive philosophy, then Bracey could work. If not, then he is unlikely to be successful running the offense at Georgetown.
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