SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Jan 28, 2015 11:53:37 GMT -5
Last night was a TEAM loss. Everyone stunk. OK, that's past. Team went 6-3 through first half of the BE Schedule. Now lets focus on going forward.
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njhoya78
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Brilly
Jan 28, 2015 12:29:04 GMT -5
Post by njhoya78 on Jan 28, 2015 12:29:04 GMT -5
SirSaxa is right. This was a team effort, in every way; every player on that court last night is deserving of criticism. Let's see how they react to this loss.
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 28, 2015 13:01:00 GMT -5
And I'm looking at 9-0 for the second half.
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Brilly
Jan 28, 2015 16:09:49 GMT -5
Post by michaeldm9 on Jan 28, 2015 16:09:49 GMT -5
NOO!!!! He's not Russel Wilson. Because you are having a bad game, doesn't mean you have to have a bad game. Calm down and turn it around. That's what champions do. This comparison is so far-fetched I'm having trouble grasping what you're trying to say. Russell Wilson still had a dumpster fire of a game in that game. The mere fact that he made one ridiculously easy throw to win the game hardly implies he "turned it around." Marshawn Lynch and some colossal mistakes by the Packers are why they won that game. That throw in OT was there because the Packers were trying to stop Lynch who had completely dominated them during the meltdown/comeback. They packed the box to try and stop him and left no safety over the top to help in coverage. Kearse beat Williams off the line to the inside and without any safety help, was wide open down the middle. Wilson made a throw that Geno Smith could have made. He was still remarkably bad in that game. They won despite his performance, not because of it. Wrong!!!. Russel Wilson was 9 of 10 in his last 10 passes. Russel led a drive in the 4th quarter to take the lead. Yes he was a dumpster fire. But he turned it around. The throw he made in overtime was a perfect throw with little room for error. Geno Smith is at home watching because he can make so many great throws. That's where Trawik will be if he don't start playing better. Everyone who has played competitive sports has had bad games. To be a champion you have to figure out how salvage that game and turn it around. Not just keeping do the same thing over and over again.
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Brilly
Jan 28, 2015 21:13:10 GMT -5
Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Jan 28, 2015 21:13:10 GMT -5
This comparison is so far-fetched I'm having trouble grasping what you're trying to say. Russell Wilson still had a dumpster fire of a game in that game. The mere fact that he made one ridiculously easy throw to win the game hardly implies he "turned it around." Marshawn Lynch and some colossal mistakes by the Packers are why they won that game. That throw in OT was there because the Packers were trying to stop Lynch who had completely dominated them during the meltdown/comeback. They packed the box to try and stop him and left no safety over the top to help in coverage. Kearse beat Williams off the line to the inside and without any safety help, was wide open down the middle. Wilson made a throw that Geno Smith could have made. He was still remarkably bad in that game. They won despite his performance, not because of it. Wrong!!!. Russel Wilson was 9 of 10 in his last 10 passes. Russel led a drive in the 4th quarter to take the lead. Yes he was a dumpster fire. But he turned it around. The throw he made in overtime was a perfect throw with little room for error. Geno Smith is at home watching because he can make so many great throws. That's where Trawik will be if he don't start playing better. Everyone who has played competitive sports has had bad games. To be a champion you have to figure out how salvage that game and turn it around. Not just keeping do the same thing over and over again. and yeah brilly is not at the level of russell wilson... if you translate him into college bball level, that's someone like shabazz napier , a proven winner and leader that carries the team to get wins especially at the time when they need them the most. trawick has been playing at the level of a role player on a good team during the 3.5 yrs here (if you want to argue that he played well last season after his breaking his jaw against a mediocre competitionn, then that's 3 yrs). kinda disappointing because i don't think he even reached the level of jessie sapp's sophomore season when there is only a half of season left.
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Jan 29, 2015 7:35:36 GMT -5
Wow, cosmo, we look at Jabril totally differently. I see nothing disappointing about Jabril's career.
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blueandgray
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Post by blueandgray on Jan 29, 2015 9:06:58 GMT -5
In my mind, jabril has met or exceeded expectations. Was he even a top 100 recruit?
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NCHoya
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Post by NCHoya on Jan 29, 2015 9:27:31 GMT -5
Where did all of these high expectations of Jabril come from? He is playing the role of senior role player, glue guy like he is supposed to be. He was never a huge recruit who had expectations of being a star, the kid has played to his recruiting report - hard nosed, tough attitude, physical, and at times out of control. Since he broke his jaw last year, I have been more than happy with him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 29, 2015 10:35:25 GMT -5
In my mind, jabril has met or exceeded expectations. Was he even a top 100 recruit? He had an Rsci of 125 and basically played PF on his HS team… I mean… idk.. Think he’s had a nice progression and has been nails on D from day one...
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Brilly
Jan 29, 2015 13:08:01 GMT -5
Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Jan 29, 2015 13:08:01 GMT -5
I don't think it's going to happen at this point, but would love to see him add a pull up to the arsenal. Everyone knows if he drives he puts his head down and goes. Defenders can wait and draw a charge or force him off line, resulting in a walk. If he could pull up from 8 feet every once in awhile, you'd have to get up on him more, and it would make it easier for him to get by the first guy (since he does take a little time to gather himself). I woud certainly think he has the strength to elevate over a lot of defenders and get a shot off.
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justsaying
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Brilly
Jan 29, 2015 22:13:11 GMT -5
Post by justsaying on Jan 29, 2015 22:13:11 GMT -5
As we saw in the last ugly game in the first half he was the only player attempting to attack the lane; when we have other team members following suit then it become difficult to wait just for Brill because of the attacks coming from different& other angles. Tre and Cope need to consistently add to the attack to keep the multi prong attack going like other previous games. Even though Brill was not in sync the last game I'd rather see losing the ball attacking than losing the ball on the perimeter with non-attacks which limits our times getting to the foul line. I'm sure Xavier was appreciative that we were not pressing the attack & allowing them to play Josh one man up then made it easier to close with a second man when the pass was in the air to Josh. Brill even tried to post the smaller guards a couple of times; which was smart strategy give the circumstances at the time; but as a team we were unable to complete that pass or other plays.
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Brilly
Jan 29, 2015 23:28:38 GMT -5
Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Jan 29, 2015 23:28:38 GMT -5
Wow, cosmo, we look at Jabril totally differently. I see nothing disappointing about Jabril's career. i am lookin at u wannamaker
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Brilly
Feb 1, 2015 14:59:07 GMT -5
Post by hoyalove4ever on Feb 1, 2015 14:59:07 GMT -5
He looked pretty good yesterday.
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Brilly
Feb 1, 2015 15:59:07 GMT -5
Post by HometownHoya on Feb 1, 2015 15:59:07 GMT -5
5/8 FG, 3/5 3PT, 15 points, 4 reb, 1 assist, 3 TO
Much better scoring, his shooting has improved. Still had some TOs but I agree, he looked pretty good. I wonder if he'll have a hot sharpshooter game sometime this year, I doubt we'll get as many open deep shots in the future though.
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Post by aristides on Feb 27, 2015 21:10:49 GMT -5
I think the Hoyas are far and away a better team than they were in the starting half of the season. Key to this change would certainly be the emergence of Isaac Copeland, but another player has changed his game dramatically since the start of the season as well, if more quietly. Jabril Trawick.
Over his first eight games, Jabril attempted 36 FG's, an average of 4.5 FGA/game. Over that same span, he attempted only 7 three's which averages out to less than one 3 point attempt per game. I think the low point of that stretch, and of the season, for Jabril was the Kansas game. He played tentatively, ended up only shooting the ball twice, and appeared to pass up a number of open opportunities. Quite simply, he didn't want to take big shots.
If you compare those numbers at the start of the season with his last six games, there is a major difference. Over 6 games, Jabril has attempted 49 FG's, an average of 8.16 FGA/game. He has almost doubled his field goal attempts since from the start of the season. And as for 3's, Jabril shot 21 3PA, an average of 3.5/game. He does not seem to be passing up open shots anymore. Yet in spite of this more aggressive shooting, he is still leading the team with a sterling .455 percentage from behind the 3 point line.
There are a number of variables beyond just the FGA, such as the many differences between the non-conference season and conference play, but the numbers are at the least indicative that his playing has improved dramatically.
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Post by tashoya on Feb 27, 2015 21:22:06 GMT -5
I think the Hoyas are far and away a better team than they were in the starting half of the season. Key to this change would certainly be the emergence of Isaac Copeland, but another player has changed his game dramatically since the start of the season as well, if more quietly. Jabril Trawick. Over his first eight games, Jabril attempted 36 FG's, an average of 4.5 FGA/game. Over that same span, he attempted only 7 three's which averages out to less than one 3 point attempt per game. I think the low point of that stretch, and of the season, for Jabril was the Kansas game. He played tentatively, ended up only shooting the ball twice, and appeared to pass up a number of open opportunities. Quite simply, he didn't want to take big shots. If you compare those numbers at the start of the season with his last six games, there is a major difference. Over 6 games, Jabril has attempted 49 FG's, an average of 8.16 FGA/game. He has almost doubled his field goal attempts since from the start of the season. And as for 3's, Jabril shot 21 3PA, an average of 3.5/game. He does not seem to be passing up open shots anymore. Yet in spite of this more aggressive shooting, he is still leading the team with a sterling .455 percentage from behind the 3 point line. There are a number of variables beyond just the FGA, such as the many differences between the non-conference season and conference play, but the numbers are at the least indicative that his playing has improved dramatically. He's been really efficient on the open looks he's taken. He still doesn't always look like he wants that shot but he's knocking them down at a great clip. Aside from all of the basketball stuff, how is Jabril a senior already? Where did the time go? I remember following his recruiting thread and seeing someone link a prom pic and being excited to see him suit up for the Hoyas. I can't believe he's a second semester senior already and I'm not looking forward to not seeing him in the blue and gray. This is just before the time of year where things can go haywire on the board so I just wanted to take a minute to appreciate the role Jabril has played on this team. He still gets labeled with the "tough guy" moniker and that's true enough. But he's a much more complete player now than he was as a freshman. I've really liked watching him grow as a player and I hope for the sake of all Hoyas, but mostly for Jabril and the other seniors, that the season ends on a high note. He's another guy that I'm really going to miss watching play but also one that I'll always be glad is a Hoya for life. Hoya Saxa!
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drquigley
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Brilly
Feb 27, 2015 23:31:42 GMT -5
Post by drquigley on Feb 27, 2015 23:31:42 GMT -5
i heard that while recovering from the broken jaw he spent hours working on his jump shot. It shows. He is statistically the best 3 point shooter on the team. This was a guy who 2 years ago would never shoot a 3 and when he did you held your breath. He deserves a lot of credit. Will be missed.
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