SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 9, 2014 20:29:48 GMT -5
If the students can't bother to come out to this game well then I'm completely giving up on them I hate when people phrase it like this. I too am disappointed with the overall student turnout thus far, but there are some of us diehards who will be at every game cheering on our Hoyas regardless. Let's not disparage the entire student body when there is at least a certain amount of dedicated fans. Good point hoyasaxa18. During JT3's time at GU, there have been some very effective student groups who managed to energize the larger student body and build enormous support for the team. Emphasizing the Gray Tees came from that. You sound like a serious fan. Perhaps some of those recent alumni who were integral to those efforts might lend a hand with advice and ideas so an enthusiastic current student like HS18 and his diehard pals might lead the way for the current students? Good luck. And keep coming to the games. Hoya Basketball is very special - much bigger than simply the games on the court. And it's a great way to build and maintain GU friendships for decades.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Dec 9, 2014 21:27:01 GMT -5
I know I was spoiled by attending Georgetown getting to witness a sweet 16 as a freshman, final 4 as a sophomore and 2 BE regular season titles, and a Big East Tournament Title, but the overwhelming lack of fan support since my time on the hilltop certainly is disappointing. I get to an extent that times have been much leaner since I left the hill top, but still, games are fun for me. Not sure why kids wouldn't want to see live basketball in person and drink beer. Seems crazy to me that we have to practically beg kids to show up.
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Post by tashoya on Dec 9, 2014 21:39:20 GMT -5
I know I was spoiled by attending Georgetown getting to witness a sweet 16 as a freshman, final 4 as a sophomore and 2 BE regular season titles, and a Big East Tournament Title, but the overwhelming lack of fan support since my time on the hilltop certainly is disappointing. I get to an extent that times have been much leaner since I left the hill top, but still, games are fun for me. Not sure why kids wouldn't want to see live basketball in person and drink beer. Seems crazy to me that we have to practically beg kids to show up. I had to go to Landover with no student seating and it was still a great time. Not to mention, it's a great way to start off a night out. I get that it's finals time but come on. You're smart kids. Budget your time! And go scream and cheer for your classmates and have a couple of adult sodas. At a minimum, it's a great way to blow out the stress during this time of year. If you're remotely interested in basketball believe me, after you graduate, you'll regret not taking the opportunity to go when you had it.
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Post by tashoya on Dec 9, 2014 21:41:45 GMT -5
Opened as a 1 pt. favorite. That seems a bit unexpected.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 9, 2014 22:10:39 GMT -5
Pomeroy has us as a one point favorite, too. That pegs Kansas as a three point favorite on a neutral court and roughly around 7 at Phog. Might be a few points off, but Vegas college basketball lines are pretty consistent with most computer models. I suspect they start with a similar model to Pomeroy and adjust from there. But even an early season college basketball game probably doesn't get much scrutiny.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Dec 9, 2014 22:17:27 GMT -5
From a kansas newspaper preview talking about Hopkins: " hoop-math.com nugget: While the majority of his shots come at the rim (87.9%), Hopkins only makes 37.9% of those easy looks." Ouch. I'm a bigger fan on Hopkins than most, but that's an ugly stat. Really great article with a hoop-math.com nugget for each starter: www2.kusports.com/weblogs/smithology/2014/dec/9/getting-to-know-the-hoyas/Although apparently White is even worse at the rim than Hopkins: "hoop-math.com nugget: KU might prefer that he try to attack in the paint because he only makes 28.6% of his shots at the rim. Don’t leave him open inside the arc, though — he has made 12 of 18 two-point jumpers."
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Post by SirSaxa on Dec 9, 2014 22:22:08 GMT -5
Dang I am looking forward to this KU game. IT is NOT going to be easy. Hoyas need to bring their "A" game, especially boards, and Threes. Freshmen need to come up big to help DSR and Josh.
Great opportunity to GU, but we've got our work cut out.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 9, 2014 22:41:04 GMT -5
That 28.6% is almost certainly 2 of 7.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 9, 2014 22:45:27 GMT -5
From a kansas newspaper preview talking about Hopkins: " hoop-math.com nugget: While the majority of his shots come at the rim (87.9%), Hopkins only makes 37.9% of those easy looks." Ouch. I'm a bigger fan on Hopkins than most, but that's an ugly stat. Really great article with a hoop-math.com nugget for each starter: www2.kusports.com/weblogs/smithology/2014/dec/9/getting-to-know-the-hoyas/Although apparently White is even worse at the rim than Hopkins: "hoop-math.com nugget: KU might prefer that he try to attack in the paint because he only makes 28.6% of his shots at the rim. Don’t leave him open inside the arc, though — he has made 12 of 18 two-point jumpers." While that dude is an eternal geek for his ridiculous blog header, he's a saint for introducing me to this: Hoop Math
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Post by SFHoya99 on Dec 9, 2014 22:48:48 GMT -5
Interesting -- our % of possessions in transition is the at 22% for both this year and last year. But we've prevented transition opportunities much better this year.
Who would have guessed we were getting back better on D rather than running more this year? Anyone?
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Post by prhoya on Dec 9, 2014 23:08:52 GMT -5
From a kansas newspaper preview talking about Hopkins: " hoop-math.com nugget: While the majority of his shots come at the rim (87.9%), Hopkins only makes 37.9% of those easy looks." Ouch. I'm a bigger fan on Hopkins than most, but that's an ugly stat. We just need him to have a Zoubek-like spell from March thru early April '15. . It could happen when you shoot close to the rim.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Dec 9, 2014 23:13:42 GMT -5
While that dude is an eternal geek for his ridiculous blog header, he's a saint for introducing me to this: Hoop MathNice. Thanks!
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Post by tashoya on Dec 9, 2014 23:38:59 GMT -5
Interesting -- our % of possessions in transition is the at 22% for both this year and last year. But we've prevented transition opportunities much better this year. Who would have guessed we were getting back better on D rather than running more this year? Anyone? If you separate the two, I think we'd all probably agree that we're getting back better. The run out stat is a little surprising but it is a small sample size. I don't expect it'll be the same at the end of the season but it will be interesting to see. I know little but, in watching the games, it seems as though it's been a concerted effort to work on the half court offense after the first 2 or 3 games. We've looked less aggressive even though we were having success early on with it. That could be a function of better opponents as well but I don't think this squad needs to worry as much about running with running teams. I think they can. Or, at the least, they will be able to. But they do need work on sets against teams that will grind. They're a bit sloppy still at times but the team has a lot of younger guys getting important minutes (which I love) and that's to be expected. The past 2 games especially, I've seen guys fighting over screens and I love seeing that. I also love that LJ is really picking up his defensive effort too. That might be why he's not done as much offensively (coupled with a possible focus on half court offense) but, in the end, that's going to pay dividends. As JT3 has alluded to, this team has a capacity for growth and a higher possible ceiling than his teams of the past few years. It could end well or it could end poorly but it'll be fun as hell to watch. Get em Hoyas!
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Post by HometownHoya on Dec 10, 2014 0:16:25 GMT -5
Interesting -- our % of possessions in transition is the at 22% for both this year and last year. But we've prevented transition opportunities much better this year. Who would have guessed we were getting back better on D rather than running more this year? Anyone? I thought we all had agreed that our offensive rebounding was awful because we are a NBA type transition D team .
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Post by GUJook97 on Dec 10, 2014 7:27:36 GMT -5
The Healy clock hands have gone missing. If that turns out to be good game day mojo, well...
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Dec 10, 2014 7:32:44 GMT -5
Game day boys and girls. This is a big one Hoya Saxa!
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Post by aleutianhoya on Dec 10, 2014 8:36:21 GMT -5
Interesting -- our % of possessions in transition is the at 22% for both this year and last year. But we've prevented transition opportunities much better this year. Who would have guessed we were getting back better on D rather than running more this year? Anyone? It is interesting. What I'd be interested in seeing is whether we have shot earlier in the shot clock, generally, even in half court sets (which that site's numbers don't show). That would include secondary break type opportunities or quick exploitation of mismatches. It certainly seemed, at least against sub-elite opponents, that we were doing that, but I don't know if the numbers back me up generally or whether we are doing it against good teams.
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Post by HoyaSinceBirth on Dec 10, 2014 9:05:04 GMT -5
Interesting -- our % of possessions in transition is the at 22% for both this year and last year. But we've prevented transition opportunities much better this year. Who would have guessed we were getting back better on D rather than running more this year? Anyone? It is interesting. What I'd be interested in seeing is whether we have shot earlier in the shot clock, generally, even in half court sets (which that site's numbers don't show). That would include secondary break type opportunities or quick exploitation of mismatches. It certainly seemed, at least against sub-elite opponents, that we were doing that, but I don't know if the numbers back me up generally or whether we are doing it against good teams. Well our avg time on offense is down to 17.1 from 18.3 last year, but that could be because we're turning it over at a higher rate this year than we did last year.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Dec 10, 2014 9:20:06 GMT -5
Interesting -- our % of possessions in transition is the at 22% for both this year and last year. But we've prevented transition opportunities much better this year. Who would have guessed we were getting back better on D rather than running more this year? Anyone? We are doing a much better job offensive rebounding this year. I think that helps a lot too.
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Post by williambraskyiii on Dec 10, 2014 9:57:27 GMT -5
Fastest way to make this a laugher is if Josh gets into early foul trouble for post moves. That will really come down to how the refs want to call the game. If we need to roll with Hopkins at 5 for extended minutes early, I think we could face some trouble. Alexander will get heavy minutes tonight with the other kid suspended. I actually feel pretty good with Hopkins d'ing him up because he can match his physicality and athleticism. Need DSR to be on tonight.
Also can't underestimate how much a strong crowd would help. Hope the locals come out in force tonight, in addition to the students.
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