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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 13, 2015 12:55:10 GMT -5
Just to add a bit more on Wingate. He was a major, ELITE recruit signing for Georgetown. Wingate was a second team Parade All-American coming out of Dunbar Baltimore (one of the top-ranked high school teams in the nation at the time), which meant that Parade had him ranked as a Top 20 national recruit (10 players per team). Pearl Washington was on the second team with Wingate, by the way.
It's possible Kaleb turns out to be a great player, but he should arrive at Georgetown with much different expectations than Wingate, who started every game as a freshman the year after our NCAA championship loss to UNC and was second on the team in scoring with 12ppg.
The two players are not really in the same zip code on the recruiting front.
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Post by dense on Feb 13, 2015 14:03:24 GMT -5
This board when you try to say someone plays like a certain player or say he plays at times like a past player they take that to mean that he is said player. I think when B & said Wingate, he didn't mean Kaleb was Wingate. That he plays like him that's all.
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 13, 2015 14:29:19 GMT -5
If Kaleb plays like Wingate, then he would be a Top 20 recruit like Wingate. There is a reason people jump on really bad comparisons.
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Post by EtomicB on Feb 13, 2015 14:58:11 GMT -5
If Kaleb plays like Wingate, then he would be a Top 20 recruit like Wingate. There is a reason people jump on really bad comparisons. Shouldn't posters also read what was actually posted before jumping on it Ranch? Not one poster ever said he "plays" like David Wingate..
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Post by Ranch Dressing on Feb 13, 2015 16:01:00 GMT -5
Maybe my eyes deceive me, but isn't that exactly what Dense said above my post.
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Post by dense on Feb 13, 2015 16:07:10 GMT -5
If Kaleb plays like Wingate, then he would be a Top 20 recruit like Wingate. There is a reason people jump on really bad comparisons. That's not true at all. If I said Jeff Green has James Worthy aspects to his game, I'd be right and he wasn't a top 100 player.
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Post by dense on Feb 13, 2015 16:08:59 GMT -5
Maybe my eyes deceive me, but isn't that exactly what Dense said above my post. I didn't say that at all. I haven't ever seen him play. I was just giving perspective to what B&G said.
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Post by dense on Feb 13, 2015 16:15:39 GMT -5
Like I said the problem with comparing someone to a finished product and/ or legend they expect him to play exactly like him or be regarded as such. I remember when talking about Derrickson I mentioned Draymond Green Michigan St era. A poster (not calling him out at all) said I saw him in an NBA game rebound dribble up the floor and throw a half court lob pass no way Derrickson can do that. I mentioned that Draymond couldn't do that at Michigan St either. I cited what version I was making the comparsion to and still the poster pulls something that happened now to said player when I clarified completely.
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Post by Filo on Feb 13, 2015 16:37:45 GMT -5
This board when you try to say someone plays like a certain player or say he plays at times like a past player they take that to mean that he is said player. I think when B & said Wingate, he didn't mean Kaleb was Wingate. That he plays like him that's all. LOL it's one poster who is perpetuating the Wingate comparison by arguing against it and being a master of the obvious. Smh.
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Post by sleepyjackson21 on Feb 13, 2015 16:39:34 GMT -5
The funny thing is that i don't think anybody really thought that Kaleb was the caliber of Wingate. Beenaround mentioned that B&G had compared some of his game to Wingate and most of the rest of us were reminiscing about Wingate. But yes, as HoyasareHungry pointed out, this is Hoyatalk and at times we do get carried away. That's part of the charm of Hoyatalk.
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Feb 13, 2015 17:56:12 GMT -5
Ah, the youth on this board! I always take it for granted that those on this board must know about David Wingate. Oh, and I thought Kaleb walked during that coast to coast.
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 14, 2015 14:49:29 GMT -5
28 points and 8 rebounds last night. Baller!
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 14, 2015 14:52:59 GMT -5
All four newcombers will play significant minutes next year led by Govan and Johnson. Staff loving how johnson is developing.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Feb 14, 2015 15:09:46 GMT -5
led by Govan and Johnson B&G? Wow. I would have figured Marcus over Kaleb but Kaleb must really be coming along!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 15:09:51 GMT -5
Carlisle holds off Miller, wins 20th game 72-63 Seniors Akim Mitchell and Kaleb Johnson honored pregame Carlisle seniors Akim Mitchell (front) and Kaleb Johnson take to the court for the second quarter of Friday's win over Miller. The pair was honored pregame. By CARA COOPER - Bulletin Sports Writer Bulletin Sports Writer Carlisle’s senior boys basketball players stepped up their game for their final time playing at home, beating Conference foe Miller School 72-63 Friday night at Carlisle. Senior Kaleb Johnson, a Georgetown commit, scored a game-high 28 points, and grabbed 7 rebounds and 4 steals to lead the Chiefs. Fellow senior Akim Mitchell had a big night of his own, scoring 11 points and grabbing 3 steals. The Chiefs jumped out to a 7-0 lead to start the game, and finished the first quarter up 21-10. Miller tried a full-court press to begin the game, but Carlisle was able to easily pass up court out of it, leading to several break-away layups. www.martinsvillebulletin.com/article.cfm?ID=45464
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 15:11:50 GMT -5
led by Govan and Johnson B&G? Wow. I would have figured Marcus over Kaleb but Kaleb must really be coming along! Johnson has a clearer path to minutes considering what we have coming back and what we lose.. Pretty stacked Positions 3-5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2015 15:12:41 GMT -5
BOYS BASKETBALL Carlisle’s Kaleb Johnson reaches 1,000 point milestone. Carlisle School’s Kaleb Johnson, a Georgetown commit, reached the 1,00 point plateau in Saturday’s win over Trinity Episcopal School in Richmond. The senior forward was honored on Tuesday night at Carlisle School, the Chiefs’ first home game since Johnson reached the milestone. www.martinsvillebulletin.com/article.cfm?ID=45428&back=archives
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Post by hoyazeke on Feb 14, 2015 15:40:15 GMT -5
If Kaleb plays like Wingate, then he would be a Top 20 recruit like Wingate. There is a reason people jump on really bad comparisons. Ranch your statement is much too rigid. For example, most would say that Trey Burke plays like CP3. It doesn't mean that TB3 is as good as CP3. Same style, on court demeanor and even stature. I still stick to my TPrince comparison. Long and crafty. Not the best athlete but knows how to use his length to get off shots and bother shooters.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Feb 14, 2015 16:43:18 GMT -5
led by Govan and Johnson B&G? Wow. I would have figured Marcus over Kaleb but Kaleb must really be coming along! Johnson has a clearer path to minutes considering what we have coming back and what we lose.. Pretty stacked Positions 3-5 True YaBOY. I am just obsessed with Derrickson hitting 15 footers and opening up the O.
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Post by blueandgray on Feb 14, 2015 20:35:31 GMT -5
If Kaleb plays like Wingate, then he would be a Top 20 recruit like Wingate. There is a reason people jump on really bad comparisons. Ranch your statement is much too rigid. For example, most would say that Trey Burke plays like CP3. It doesn't mean that TB3 is as good as CP3. Same style, on court demeanor and even stature. I still stick to my TPrince comparison. Long and crafty. Not the best athlete but knows how to use his length to get off shots and bother shooters. People make comparisons with a kids style of play all the time without suggesting that the kid will be as good as the one being compared to. If you prefer, I could say he's got some similarities to Robert Churchwell ...although is better with the ball. Does everyone feel better now? Hoyatalk is funny...someone can say that Bracey has a bit of Iverson in him (an NBA HOF), but a comparison to wingate draws a 3 page discussion.
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