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Post by Elvado on Oct 24, 2014 10:09:48 GMT -5
This is far worse than lack of institutional control. This is active institutional fraud.
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Post by quickplay on Oct 24, 2014 11:23:10 GMT -5
Exactly. This isn't a lack of institutional control, it's a fundamental lack of institutional ethics.
Edit: I didn't see your post Elvado, but you said it better. It's corruption.
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Post by njhoya78 on Oct 24, 2014 12:14:24 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 24, 2014 19:51:05 GMT -5
If the NCAA blows this off but continues to suspend individual players for penny-ante bull, it might as well just be disbanded. I have to think this is the worst misconduct I can recall anywhere, except for the murder of that kid at SMU.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 24, 2014 21:56:24 GMT -5
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Post by Elvado on Oct 24, 2014 22:37:21 GMT -5
I think he meant Baylor. Hard to tell those Texas lawbreakers apart you know...
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Post by njhoya78 on Oct 25, 2014 12:58:02 GMT -5
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Post by DanMcQ on Oct 25, 2014 18:13:34 GMT -5
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Post by hoyainspirit on Oct 26, 2014 9:09:24 GMT -5
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Post by SSHoya on Oct 27, 2014 16:39:37 GMT -5
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Post by SFHoya99 on Oct 27, 2014 18:24:48 GMT -5
I'm glad to see shocking and disturbing were used in the full quote... because troubling frankly seems way too light.
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Post by njhoya78 on Oct 27, 2014 18:56:21 GMT -5
Until the NCAA actually takes some action that doesn't leave me wondering why they even bother to pretend that there are rules and regulations to be followed, I'm not buying Emmert's act.
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 27, 2014 18:59:09 GMT -5
Where was Dave Bliss the coach? Was that Baylor? Maybe I am confusing the Texas schools.
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Post by njhoya78 on Oct 27, 2014 19:07:25 GMT -5
Bliss was at Baylor.
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Post by tashoya on Oct 27, 2014 19:24:36 GMT -5
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Post by DFW HOYA on Oct 27, 2014 21:19:34 GMT -5
Also at SMU as well. Surprised the Dave Bliss story hasn't become a book or a off-cable TV movie. An all-Ivy league guard at Cornell, a protege of Bob Knight at Army and Indiana, he gets hired by Oklahoma and then leaves for a big offer at SMU (Georgetown trivia: it was John Thompson that OU offered the then-unheard-of sum of $200K per year to replace Bliss. That amount was twice the average salary of an NBA player at the time. After Thompson turned it down, they hired Billy Tubbs.) Bliss took the Mustangs to a #2 ranking in 1985 and left following SMU's football nadir. It's been suggested the basketball program had player payments as well but the NCAA investigators never paid much attention to it. He went on to New Mexico, had the Lobos at 28-5 in 1996, then left for Baylor, where his life and career plummeted.
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Post by flyoverhoya on Oct 28, 2014 13:39:17 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Oct 28, 2014 20:19:10 GMT -5
Also at SMU as well. Surprised the Dave Bliss story hasn't become a book or a off-cable TV movie. An all-Ivy league guard at Cornell, a protege of Bob Knight at Army and Indiana, he gets hired by Oklahoma and then leaves for a big offer at SMU (Georgetown trivia: it was John Thompson that OU offered the then-unheard-of sum of $200K per year to replace Bliss. That amount was twice the average salary of an NBA player at the time. After Thompson turned it down, they hired Billy Tubbs.) Bliss took the Mustangs to a #2 ranking in 1985 and left following SMU's football nadir. It's been suggested the basketball program had player payments as well but the NCAA investigators never paid much attention to it. He went on to New Mexico, had the Lobos at 28-5 in 1996, then left for Baylor, where his life and career plummeted. So Bliss was coach at SMU. That just shows that I'm not totally out to lunch. Just old and rapidly losing neurons. Anyway, my apologies to SMU.
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Post by BubbleVisionBiff on Oct 30, 2014 15:08:19 GMT -5
Apparently, the lack of education extends to those covering UNC sports as well.
Actual tweet-
CarolinaBlue.com @carolinablue247 13m13 minutes ago Ho did former UNC players fair in the NBA last night?http://northcarolina.247sports.com/Board/141/Contents/Stats-for-Tar-Heels-in-the-NBA-32478564#M32478892 … We'll update this throughout the NBA season
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Post by njhoya78 on Oct 30, 2014 15:51:00 GMT -5
Actually, the way that this tweet reads, it implies some interesting off-the-court activities for the former Tar Heels.
I notice that the tweet also did not refer to the players as UNC graduates. . .does this reflect anything encompassed within the investigation?
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