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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 18, 2015 12:18:05 GMT -5
Three years is pretty ridiculous. Having said that it seems to me that a timetable like that absolutely kills recruiting for them. They've already got their '15-'16 class set, right? So that's year one. Year two is '16-'17 and that is when the scholarship limits come in I believe. So not only do you have fewer scholarships to hand out and fewer recruiters to scrounge for players but now you've got potential recruits knowing that at best they will have to deal with a new head coach after their sophomore season. And yeah you can say that they will stick with the same kind of playing style but there are zero guarantees with a new coach in place. Why would any recruit with options elsewhere want to sign on for that? And year three in '17-'18? Its all about the coach and his "farewell tour" plus you know you've got a new coach next year. High level recruits would be crazy to sign on for that. There is speculation on their boards that this is a tactic to get the NCAA to reduce the duration of the scholarship limitation to 2 years, so as not to punish the new coach because of Boeheim's sins. Not usually the NCAA style, but who knows?
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 18, 2015 13:43:02 GMT -5
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 18, 2015 13:44:56 GMT -5
Three years is pretty ridiculous. Having said that it seems to me that a timetable like that absolutely kills recruiting for them. They've already got their '15-'16 class set, right? So that's year one. Year two is '16-'17 and that is when the scholarship limits come in I believe. So not only do you have fewer scholarships to hand out and fewer recruiters to scrounge for players but now you've got potential recruits knowing that at best they will have to deal with a new head coach after their sophomore season. And yeah you can say that they will stick with the same kind of playing style but there are zero guarantees with a new coach in place. Why would any recruit with options elsewhere want to sign on for that? And year three in '17-'18? Its all about the coach and his "farewell tour" plus you know you've got a new coach next year. High level recruits would be crazy to sign on for that. There is speculation on their boards that this is a tactic to get the NCAA to reduce the duration of the scholarship limitation to 2 years, so as not to punish the new coach because of Boeheim's sins. Not usually the NCAA style, but who knows? I'd have more belief that this is feasible, had Boeheim's "retirement" announcement been made before the NCAA penalties came down. I don't think this will change the NCAA's decision, especially since other programs have had scholarship reduction penalties which impacted new coaches at other institutions, and it didn't matter to the NCAA then.
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Post by Just Cos on Mar 18, 2015 14:01:11 GMT -5
Why couldn't this all wait until April 7th? Ridiculous.
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Post by NoCleverName on Mar 18, 2015 14:32:15 GMT -5
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Mar 18, 2015 15:17:58 GMT -5
There is speculation on their boards that this is a tactic to get the NCAA to reduce the duration of the scholarship limitation to 2 years, so as not to punish the new coach because of Boeheim's sins. Not usually the NCAA style, but who knows? I'd have more belief that this is feasible, had Boeheim's "retirement" announcement been made before the NCAA penalties came down. I don't think this will change the NCAA's decision, especially since other programs have had scholarship reduction penalties which impacted new coaches at other institutions, and it didn't matter to the NCAA then. I don't think it WILL have an impact - but I don't put it past those clowns to think it could.
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Post by hoyaLS05 on Mar 18, 2015 16:58:12 GMT -5
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 18, 2015 17:01:32 GMT -5
Wow. If Thamel is piling on, the end of the world as we know it is now at hand.
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Post by Elvado on Mar 18, 2015 17:13:30 GMT -5
What course is never skipped at Syracuse? Cockroach 101 which Thamel clearly passed with flying colors. How did this escape Mr. Investigative Journalist all these years?
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Post by njhoya78 on Mar 18, 2015 17:18:00 GMT -5
If you want a real laugh, the syracusefan.com board is lividly angered by Thamel's article. They seem to have forgotten all of the years of unvarnished support for SU that Thamel gave them before this article.
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Post by DanMcQ on Mar 18, 2015 17:31:01 GMT -5
Wow. If Thamel is piling on, the end of the world as we know it is now at hand. Perhaps he has come to the revelation that all this tarnishes the value of HIS diploma.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2015 19:25:48 GMT -5
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 18, 2015 19:49:13 GMT -5
Someone probably ghost wrote it for him while he was in the bathroom crying.
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Post by hoyarooter on Mar 18, 2015 19:50:09 GMT -5
Boeheim to hold a press conference at 10 a.m. tomorrow - just in time to upstage the first day of the tourney. Typically classless SU move. Gee I wonder if the NCAA will remember this as SU tries to negotiate reduced sanctions in connection with its appeal?? What's the over-under in minutes as to how long it will take for Boeheim to get snarky with a reporter and refuse to answer a question? Minutes???
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Post by tashoya on Mar 18, 2015 20:20:24 GMT -5
Yes but where does he rank all time in NCAA penalties for one program?
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Post by RusskyHoya on Mar 18, 2015 22:01:13 GMT -5
Someone probably ghost wrote it for him while he was in the bathroom crying. Joe Nocera, presumably.
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Post by LizziebethHoya on Mar 18, 2015 23:30:04 GMT -5
Wow; I'm simply speechless.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2015 7:43:03 GMT -5
What course is never skipped at Syracuse? Cockroach 101 which Thamel clearly passed with flying colors. How did this escape Mr. Investigative Journalist all these years? Exactly. He's spent years in and around that cesspool, praising Jimmy B and his merry band of idiots left and right. NOW he realizes what a turdbowl it was the entire time? Funny how that happened.
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Post by SSHoya on Mar 19, 2015 9:04:50 GMT -5
Boeheim coming out swinging at his press conference. Arguing that he is being held strictly liable as head coach w/o chance to rebut. Trying to have it both ways. Claims he accepts responsibility but wasn't his fault and disagrees with the NCAA's findings.
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Post by gutuna on Mar 19, 2015 9:25:10 GMT -5
Claims he accepts responsbility but wasn't his fault. I do not think that word means what you think it means.
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