Notre Dame Coming After US-Time for GU to step up its game

[happyhoya1979]

Notre Dame is establishing a School of Global Affairs which is coming right at our Crown Jewel, the School of Foreign Service. Notre Dame has a lot of recent momentum
with its yield rate moving to 53%, its SATs moving to 1460 (40 points below Harvard Yale Columbia), and its Mendoza Business School being ranked #1 undergrad for 5 straight years.
With their fund raising momentum (their endowment is now bigger than U Chicago and about to crack the top 10) and with a possible NCAA football playoff appearance this year, they
might be awash in endowment and NBC money beyond all but HYP.

Georgetown if it is going to keep its position as the most selective and academically prestigious Catholic college has to step up its game in a big way and soon:

1) We need to have the SFS marketed a lot more strongly. With the list of current and past SFS alumni of the past 50 years Georgetown needs to proudly proclaim
that there is and has been no better university on planet earth for putting prefixes like President, King, Senator, Governor, General and Chief of Staff, Ambassador, CIA Director , AFL-CIO President, Cardinal etc. in front of a person's name. Georgetown cannot be timid in marketing SFS any longer. It needs to point out that its faculty has included a Nobel Prize winner (Kissinger in the 70s and early 80s), A Macarthur genius winner (Winters), two Presidential Medal of Freedom winners (Albright, Karski) etc. These faces should be on page 2 of the SFS website with Clinton, Durbin, King Abdullah, Gloria Arroyo and King Felipe. There needs to be no doubt in anyone's mind that SFS is the number one international affairs school on planet earth.

2) As one of only 10 non-scholarship football schools in the Football Championship subdivision, a formal scheduling arrangement needs to be made with eight of those other non-scholarship schools, even if the other schools do not formally admit Georgetown to their league or include Georgetown in their formal standings. I am referring, of course to the Ivy League. If Notre Dame has enough imagination to get a five game deal with the ACC for its football without having any of the limitations of actually being in the ACC league, the Georgetown Board with includes a past NFL Commissioner should be able to complete a deal like this soon to save our football program, which cannot compete with scholarship schools in the Patriot league and the rest of the FCS any longer.

3) We have to win at basketball and do so now to give the new Big East bargaining power to produce television money to fund our secondary sports. We have to find it within ourselves to make a final four
run in the next couple of years. With our rep as BIG MAN U, our heritage and our new facility, this should be possible and indeed should be our goal. We have been consistently top 10 over the past six or so years, we just have to do it in March and on national TV.

4) The Law school, our other Jewel needs to be promoted as hard as the level of effort to be used for the SFS. I actually think, that this is already being done if one looks at the Law School's publications, website etc.

Notre Dame may have more money but we, if our leadership finds it within itself, has a greater heritage and more vision. We can and should stay number 1.

[aleutianhoya]

(1) OK. Let's market away. It's hard to believe that our geographic location won't always be the driving force keeping us ahead of any but the most elite institutions in this area. And as for the law school, we're doing just fine there.

(2) Whereas ND and the ACC had a lot to offer one another in football, we have zippo to offer the Ivys. Sure, we could offer to schedule a bunch of them in men's basketball in return, I suppose, but we certainly don't want to do that. We already play one or two of them in many of our other sports -- a mutually beneficial arrangement not likely to change significantly for competitive and geographic reasons. So why would they make a deal with us? Maybe if they simply stop being competitive against all of the newly funded schools traditionally on their schedule, they'll have no choice but to schedule us. But that won't require a special arrangement from their perspective, because we'd be happy to take whatever they offer. And in any event, it's not clear that they won't be as competitive as they historically have been moving forward. All the creativity in the world isn't going to get a deal done.

(3) Terrific! I'll pass this new thought along to Coach Thompson....

[TC]

Let me get this straight - we're scared of a foreign service school in the middle of Indiana? And the answer needs to be that we worry about football more?

[sleepy]

Who was that student body candidate back in the mid 70s whose platform was to declare war on Notre Dame, Annex Rossyln, and play Nebraska in football. I think he finished behind a chicken or a pet rock in the final tally. He had the right idea, perhaps ahead of his time.

[happyhoya1979]

"2) Whereas ND and the ACC had a lot to offer one another in football, we have zippo to offer the Ivys. Sure, we could offer to schedule a bunch of them in men's basketball in return, I suppose, but we certainly don't want to do that. We already play one or two of them in many of our other sports -- a mutually beneficial arrangement not likely to change significantly for competitive and geographic reasons. So why would they make a deal with us? Maybe if they simply stop being competitive against all of the newly funded schools traditionally on their schedule, they'll have no choice but to schedule us. But that won't require a special arrangement from their perspective, because we'd be happy to take whatever they offer. And in any event, it's not clear that they won't be as competitive as they historically have been moving forward. All the creativity in the world isn't going to get a deal done."

Yeah, we have nothing to offer them. Look at today for instance when the Ivy League teams are all playing non-conference. Tell me Columbia would rather be playing a competitive game with non-scholarship Georgretown,instead of being routed by six touchdowns by Fordham. Tell me Penn would rather be playing a competitive game with us than losing to Division 2 Jacksonville. Cornell must just be loving its route by Colgate and Dartmouth must really think Central Connecticut State is a fabulous opponent to spend Saturday with.

We don't want an all inclusive absorption into their League for the sake of our basketball autonomy (and probably track and soccer as well) but the scheduling logic in football is irrefutable and mutually advantageous.

[happyhoya1979]

"Let me get this straight - we're scared of a foreign service school in the middle of Indiana?"

Yes when it's one backed by a $9 billion world class operation. Purdue or Indiana or Depauw doing this wouldn't even be worthy of comment. God bless them though, their hard work and vision should be our motivation to even greater excellence.

[thebin]

Re: the Ivies scheduling Gtown in football...its inevitable rather than a long shot we have to fight for. Makes too much sense for both parties now that the non-Hoya PL schools are going to start becoming likely Losses for the Ancient 8. Not only would they rather associate with us than Central Conn State but DC is a place they have large and important alum bases in and want to be in. That reminds me....we are about to host Harvard and their DC alums who attend will be waiting in line for porta-johns with their players at half time. Never been so embarrassed for Alma Mater.

[happyhoya1979]

Am impressed that we recruited a Nobel prize winner for the McCourt School. Like it when I see us performing like the top level institution we are. Kudos to the admin.