Filo
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Post by hoyaloya on Jan 13, 2015 19:58:40 GMT -5
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Post by pertinax on Mar 16, 2015 19:53:06 GMT -5
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Post by kchoya on Mar 16, 2015 20:44:21 GMT -5
Only you (and one other) would be posting this during this week. You're a trolling nincompoop.
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Post by quickplay on Mar 16, 2015 21:41:35 GMT -5
Pertinax, I love the contrast between you justifying the homicide of Eric Gardner and your concern for the not-yet-born.
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Post by kchoya on Mar 16, 2015 23:23:37 GMT -5
Pertinax, I love the contrast between you justifying the homicide of Eric Gardner and your concern for the not-yet-born. Eric Gardner? Damn, yet another homicide!?!
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quickplay
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Post by quickplay on Mar 17, 2015 16:05:26 GMT -5
I blame my medications
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TC
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Post by TC on Sept 16, 2017 9:06:34 GMT -5
This seems like as good a thread as any to put this :
Catholic University cancelled a talk with James Martin. Problems with allowing speakers at colleges isn't just on the left.
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Sept 16, 2017 12:41:52 GMT -5
What is the actual reason? Has Fr. Martin been espousing views against Catholic teachings?
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Sept 16, 2017 14:07:07 GMT -5
Fr. Martin is an excellent writer and speaker. I really like him. Building a Bridge covers the topic of Catholic outreach to the LGBT community.
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TC
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Post by TC on Sept 16, 2017 14:21:40 GMT -5
What is the actual reason? Has Fr. Martin been espousing views against Catholic teachings?
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Post by Nevada Hoya on Sept 16, 2017 14:29:51 GMT -5
(Washington, D.C.) — Yesterday, Theological College, the seminary under the auspices of The Catholic University of America, announced a decision made independently of the University to rescind an invitation to Fr. James Martin, S.J., editor-at- large of America and consultor to the Vatican Secretariat for Communications to speak at their Alumni Days celebration. This decision does not reflect the University’s policy on inviting speakers to campus, nor does it reflect the specific counsel received from the University and leadership. Last year, the University welcomed Fr. Martin to speak to students about friendship with Jesus. We regret the implication that Catholic University supported yesterday’s decision.
“The campaigns by various groups to paint Fr. Martin’s talk as controversial reflect the same pressure being applied by the left for universities to withdraw speaker invitations,” said John Garvey, President of The Catholic University of America. “Universities and their related entities should be places for the free, civil exchange of ideas. Our culture is increasingly hostile to this idea. It is problematic that individuals and groups within our Church demonstrate this same inability to make distinctions and to exercise charity.”
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Sept 16, 2017 19:15:23 GMT -5
The idea that a Catholic university should even consider letting a Jesuit who preaches that homosexual unions are okay turns my stomach. This is contrary to Catholic teaching. Period. And the idea that "free, civil exchange of ideas" overcomes the fact he is preaching schism is ludicrous. Would they consider allowing David Duke to speak in the "free, civil exchange of ideas"?
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Post by tashoya on Sept 16, 2017 19:25:47 GMT -5
The idea that a Catholic university should even consider letting a Jesuit who preaches that homosexual unions are okay turns my stomach. This is contrary to Catholic teaching. Period. And the idea that "free, civil exchange of ideas" overcomes the fact he is preaching schism is ludicrous. Would they consider allowing David Duke to speak in the "free, civil exchange of ideas"? The fact that you'd equate those two lines of thought is far more ludicrous and turns my stomach.
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Post by aristides on Sept 16, 2017 21:29:36 GMT -5
Kudos to the CUA for making it clear that they weren't involved in rescinding Fr. Martin's invitation. He sounds like the kind of priest the Catholic Church needs more of. I hope he gets invited back to campus repeatedly.
I see first-hand the church do so much work for the vulnerable and oppressed, so what I find stomach-turning is when they participate in the oppression of the LGBTQ community. Hopefully though, the younger generation will keep applying pressure and we'll see some changes.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Sept 16, 2017 21:48:15 GMT -5
The idea that a Catholic university should even consider letting a Jesuit who preaches that homosexual unions are okay turns my stomach. This is contrary to Catholic teaching. Period. And the idea that "free, civil exchange of ideas" overcomes the fact he is preaching schism is ludicrous. Would they consider allowing David Duke to speak in the "free, civil exchange of ideas"? Well, he doesn't preach this. The seminary fell victim to political correctness by a blog whose readers make references to post-Vatican II "fake" priests. Rev. Martin asks questions for the purposes of engendering dialogue. Strike one. Rev. Martin appears on the TV shows of liberal Catholics like Stephen Colbert and Mika Brzezinski. Strike two. Oh, and he's a Jesuit. Batter out.
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TC
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Post by TC on Sept 16, 2017 21:49:12 GMT -5
The idea that a Catholic university should even consider letting a Jesuit who preaches that homosexual unions are okay turns my stomach. This is contrary to Catholic teaching. Period. And the idea that "free, civil exchange of ideas" overcomes the fact he is preaching schism is ludicrous. Would they consider allowing David Duke to speak in the "free, civil exchange of ideas"? I think it'd be great if Martin went as far to argue that the church should offer the sacrament of marriage to everyone. Unfortunately he doesn't. He just wants the church to reach out to gays and lesbians and talk to them, but apparently that is such a radical idea to you that you compare him to David Duke.
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Post by SSHoya on Sept 17, 2017 5:06:11 GMT -5
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TC
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Post by TC on Sept 18, 2017 7:54:19 GMT -5
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Sept 18, 2017 18:40:03 GMT -5
Catholic University stated it wanted the free, civil exchange of ideas. I challenged them by asking would they invite David Duke for a free, civil exchange of ideas. My guess is they would not invite him. Suppose I asked would they invite any speaker espousing sex between an adult and a child? Again, my guess is they would not invite him/her. So, Catholic University's welcoming of a free, civil exchange of ideas is limited to whatever censor they choose.
Secondly, Fr. Martin is giving lawyerly replies, choosing his words carefully to deceive, intentionally or not. He has referred to a friend of his in a same-sex marriage and states "That is a loving act, and that is a form of love that I don't understand but I have to reverence". But the Catholic Church says that homosexual acts are intrinsically disordered. So Father Martin says we should reverence acts the Church says are intrinsically disordered. Fr. Martin then says he is not supporting same-sex marriage nor trying to change the Church's teachings. Huh?
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