DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 12, 2014 13:40:37 GMT -5
As seen on Vimeo.
A lot of talent on that team. So how would they have fared today?
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Post by puppydog100 on Jul 13, 2014 7:30:46 GMT -5
If your question is, how would the 1997 team have fared in the current scholarship Patriot League, I think a win or two, at best.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jul 14, 2014 7:55:41 GMT -5
If your question is, how would the 1997 team have fared in the current scholarship Patriot League, I think a win or two, at best. That team had a lot of depth and while one can argue the strength of schedule, it holds up fairly well in comparison to today's team. Bill Ward and J.J. Mont were as good a 1-2 rotation at QB as Georgetown has ever had. Steve Iorio and Joe Todisco were smaller than today's PL backs but still very productive, and the defense was ranked #1 in I-AA that season primarily on the strength of the run defense. The 1997 team featured one of the "what-if" stories of the last 20 years, kicker Peter Carbonara. He had 27 PAT's and 10 FG for a GU freshman record, but bounces out of school and ends up at New Hampshire. After sitting out the 1998 season, he is named the starter and goes for 34 PAT's and 7-9 FG's for the Wildcats, then is kicked off the team that spring for the generic "violation of team policy". Much like QB Alondzo Turner and RB Keion Wade, none of whom made it to their sophomore seasons, it would have been interesting to see him develop over a full four year career. A fair point of comparison is in the schedule. Six of the eight teams Georgetown beat that year no longer play football, and its two losses that regular season were to PL teams (Holy Cross, 25-21, Fordham, 42-0). But if you're suggesting the 1997 team would be a 1-2 win team today, I'm thinking you're not setting the bar for the 2014 team much higher.
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Post by puppydog100 on Jul 14, 2014 16:10:15 GMT -5
DFW HOYA, I don't think the 2014 Hoya's will win any Patriot League games, we have fallen to far behind to be competitive.
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Post by hoyahopeful on Jul 17, 2014 11:14:04 GMT -5
Obviously I don't have the roster from that year. I would be interested in the size of the linemen (both sides of the ball). In my opinion, during the most recent years of non-scholarship play in the PL, the biggest difference was the relative size on the line. I think the Hoyas were still fielding MAC type of linemen (235 lbs to 250 lbs, with high "motors")but they were facing 280 to 290 lb linemen on the other side. Size isn't the only factor, of course. The Hoyas of 2003 to 2007 had a couple of amazing, DE's ("Buzz and Ono"), but they were the exceptions that proved the rule. When you are matching up a very good 235 lb. lineman vs. a very good 280 lb lineman, those 40+ lbs. really matter. Buzz and Ono were much more than "very good".
That's the key reason I doubt that the 1997 team would have done very well in the current PL and maybe even the PL of 2007. I saw a lot of very talented DB's and LB's get overwhelmed by the size differential on the line. And I saw a lot of solid RB's and QB's get pounded for the same reason. Obviously the Hoyas made some excellent plays during those years - they had talent. But eventually in almost every game the size issue on the line of scrimmage would tilt the field against them.
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Post by indianhoop on Jul 17, 2014 22:47:05 GMT -5
No offense but those MAAC football teams were really D1-AA (now FCS) in name only. The Holy Cross football teams of that era (roughly mid 90s-mid 00s) were the weakest teams in HC football history and they still beat the Hoyas in 1997. Not bragging, just saying that even in our darkest of days that GTown team couldn't beat Holy Cross.
I really hope GTown can get their football schollie situation straightened out somewhat....my fear is, if they don't, they will join those schools that have dropped football that GTown played in 1997.
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