SirSaxa
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Post by SirSaxa on Apr 3, 2005 13:58:18 GMT -5
he would be the first transfer since... when? a very long time that's for sure. I recall reading we had a player from West point (I believe) transfer here in the '60s. When was the last time we had a transfer from a 4 year, D1 program? -- not a JC. I can't think of any.
I am not implying it won't happen, just pointing out what an extraordinary event this would be.
But for a son of Patrick Ewing... we should take him.
And there is a very good chance he'll become a highly productive contributor starting in Fall '06.
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DFW HOYA
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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 3, 2005 14:25:24 GMT -5
The last Division I transfer was Pete George, who played in 1969-70.
Terry Fenlon (1978-80) and Johnny Jones (1988-90) both transferred from Division II schools.
A few years ago, there was a former player at Carnegie-Mellon (Div. III) that transferred to Georgetown with intentions to walk on, but he never joined the team.
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Post by Frank Black on Apr 3, 2005 17:44:56 GMT -5
DFW, you are just amazing. The most amazing man alive today now that the Pope is no longer with us.
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Post by WhatRocks on Apr 3, 2005 20:39:05 GMT -5
My memory differs concerning Jones. I think JT had recruited him and parked him at Howard for a year. Then he transferred to GU. I can't remember the reason. Perhaps all the scholarships had been given out.
What about Jerome Williams? He had enrolled at American as a 6'5" guard, but I think he never played there. Transferred to GU after a major growth spurt.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 3, 2005 20:43:59 GMT -5
My memory differs concerning Jones. I think JT had recruited him and parked him at Howard for a year. Then he transferred to GU. I can't remember the reason. Perhaps all the scholarships had been given out. Johnny Jones actually played at UDC. If someone was going to be "parked" it would have more likely been in the JC ranks because Jones had to sit out a year in 1986-87. Jones averaged 8 ppg at UDC his freshman year. When recruited by American, Jerome Williams was 6-3 (imagine that) but opted for JC. He never played at AU. |
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 4, 2005 13:24:53 GMT -5
Jerome Williams played at Montgomery College - Germantown before he transferred to Georgetown.
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Post by WhatRocks on Apr 4, 2005 16:01:05 GMT -5
I stand corrected. It was UDC rather than Howard for Jones. I said "parked" because I read while Jones was still in high school that JT was recruiting him. Then Jones wound up at UDC, played very little, and transferred after a year.
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Post by RaleighHoya on Apr 5, 2005 20:11:01 GMT -5
We have had JuCo transfers, but very few from other D-1 schools. As DFW stated, it would be the first one in a long time.
As far as JuCo's, we have had Williams, Tre Kirkpatrick, and the guy that played with Ivo (George Mitchell maybe) that come off of the top of my head.
We might lead NCAA in transfers out since 1986 though. I would be interested if anyone could dig up that stat.
I don't see the problem with accepting transfers from other D-1 schools. Duke, UNC, Wake, and State have all done it around here. UConn did it with a kid playing this year from Ga. Tech. If it can help the team, I am all for it.
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Post by gtownhoosier on Apr 5, 2005 22:14:27 GMT -5
Has anyone on this thread or board even seen PE Jr. play? Being a hard core hoosier fan, he hasn't done much of anything during his time at IU. I'll be the first to admit that Davis is much like Eshrick when it comes to coaching (although much better recruiting). But Ewing has not looked all that good. He isn't a 5 and not that athletic of a 4. We shouldn't be interested in him just out of respect for his father and what he did for Gtown......
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Post by nychoya3 on Apr 5, 2005 22:48:40 GMT -5
A) We should be interested in him out of respect for his father and what he did. It's a great story - Ewing and Thompson Jr. at Georgetown again - and he can play. He definitely is no 5, but he is MORE than athletic enough to play the 4. home.insightbb.com/~kyhoosier/wsb/html/view.cgi-showresources.html-TopRes-etecnifibre-27s-20Highlight-20Videos.htmlGo down to the bottom and download the 10 best dunks for the year (btw, I wish GUHoyas would do this). Pat figures in 4 of those dunks, but I particularly recommend number 3 and number 1. He catches an alley oop somewhere around 4 feet over the rim and just crushes it. The kid has crazy athleticism - the question is skills. At worst, he's a big time energy player and the rebounder that we desperately lacked this year. At best, he will develop in his off year, work on his jumper, and come back as a monster. I would be all for taking him even if he wasn't Pat Ewing, but he is and it's awesome. I kind of poked around the Indiana boards, and I think you're in the minority on Ewing. Most were sorry to see him go and think he can be a big time player - and WOW do they hate Mike Davis. |
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Post by jerseyhoya34 on Apr 5, 2005 23:08:40 GMT -5
I kind of poked around the Indiana boards, and I think you're in the minority on Ewing. Most were sorry to see him go and think he can be a big time player - and WOW do they hate Mike Davis. I did the same and got the same impression. If anyone thinks HoyaTalk was insufferable in early March 2004, reed Peegs. |
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 6, 2005 1:59:56 GMT -5
We shouldn't be interested in him just out of respect for his father and what he did for Gtown...... I think we should. And I think we should be interested in anyone with that kind of athleticism. Jr. has something -- athleticism -- that this team sorely lacks. I love our players, but there's really no absolutely freakish athletes out there. I'd consider Jeff and Brandon athletic, but not freaks, and maybe Tyler. DJ is kind of a halflete. |
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 6, 2005 8:36:54 GMT -5
"As far as JuCo's, we have had Williams, Tre Kirkpatrick, and the guy that played with Ivo (George Mitchell maybe)"
That was George Butler.
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Post by HoyaAtHeart on Apr 6, 2005 10:37:13 GMT -5
Has anyone on this thread or board even seen PE Jr. play? Being a hard core hoosier fan, he hasn't done much of anything during his time at IU. I'll be the first to admit that Davis is much like Eshrick when it comes to coaching (although much better recruiting). But Ewing has not looked all that good. He isn't a 5 and not that athletic of a 4. We shouldn't be interested in him just out of respect for his father and what he did for Gtown...... I seen before he got to Indiana...and with that said, he made a mistake by going there in the first place. They arent a team that fits his style at all. He thrives in a running more uptempo system. They tried to have him out there as the guy who is supposed to be the garbage utility big man and thats not his game. He's not a power forward, nor is he a small forward. He's a tweener, he has the quickness to play on the perimeter and he athletically has the ability to play bigger than what he is. Im dumbfounded as to how you figure he isnt "that athletic of a 4", did he not win BOTH dunk contests at Indiana? Wasnt he on Sportscenter top 10 at times as well? He definitely has the potential to be a big time player and its a shame to see the label he acquired at Indiana. Im sure he wishes he could do it all over again. |
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Post by DuddingtonHoya on Apr 6, 2005 14:02:39 GMT -5
I'll chime in here as well.
The thing to remember is that he's not a big man. At all. Does not resemble his dad's style of play... you won't see him hanging around the basket. He may get a few blocks, but in the same way DJ or Brandon gets them. He's more of a shooter and high energy guy.
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Post by bowmansbruzers on Apr 6, 2005 14:15:57 GMT -5
Right now we are all scrambling about needing another big, but I think we are ok for now for next year. If we get Jr. we get that energy that we needed which we really only got from Crawford and Reed this year. Adding Ewing, we can put him at the 3/4 along with BB and Jeff- that could be the most athletic 3-4-5 in the bigeast.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 6, 2005 14:16:58 GMT -5
I'll chime in here as well. The thing to remember is that he's not a big man. At all. Does not resemble his dad's style of play... you won't see him hanging around the basket. He may get a few blocks, but in the same way DJ or Brandon gets them. He's more of a shooter and high energy guy. Given our offense, I like Ewing as a fit if he can improve his perimeter skills. But his ability to play the perimeter yet still offensive rebound like a beast -- that's a player we haven't seen in a long time. |
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Post by nychoya3 on Apr 6, 2005 14:33:36 GMT -5
Right now we are all scrambling about needing another big, but I think we are ok for now for next year. If we get Jr. we get that energy that we needed which we really only got from Crawford and Reed this year. Adding Ewing, we can put him at the 3/4 along with BB and Jeff- that could be the most athletic 3-4-5 in the bigeast. Ewing wouldn't be eligible next year, so Bowman will be gone. So figure on Ewing, Spann, and Green being the most athletic frontcourt in the BE.  |
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Post by bowmansbruzers on Apr 6, 2005 16:41:58 GMT -5
Sorry I forgot about that just but just put in Egerson for BB or Spann and we still got a great 3-4-5 punch in 2 years.
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Post by RDF on Apr 8, 2005 17:02:34 GMT -5
Saw a rumor on Indiana site that said PE Jr is visiting GU this weekend. If so that's great news and hope the visit goes well and keep your eyes open to see if he's visiting.
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