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Post by HometownHoya on Apr 10, 2014 13:45:12 GMT -5
Good luck to Domingo. I'm sure a year off will help him regain form and some confidence. I won't be surprised if he will be another former Hoya to do well somewhere else. I do think coming in early messed with his confidence but iirc his form in HS was pretty good, not sure how that can disappear so drastically. Either way good luck to him finishing his career.
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Post by MCIGuy on Apr 10, 2014 14:34:35 GMT -5
This was going to happen, it had to happen for both parties. Don't like to keep repeating that it was probably a mistake for III to get this kid into college a year early....but it was probably a mistake for III to get this kid into college a year early. Maybe it wouldn't have made all the difference but I think it hurt Domingo in some way at least. Plus there was the tension with his high school coach who was against the move and didn't exactly give Domingo his blessing. Let III end such experiments. Hoya Balla kept hoping Copeland would skip his last year in prep too in order to play with the Hoyas this past season and I was dead set against that. Let these guys enjoy their last year before big time athletics take over their lives.
With that said I wish Domingo the best. I'm sure a fresh start will do him good.
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Post by whatmaroon on Apr 10, 2014 14:35:26 GMT -5
Best of luck to him with the rest of his basketball career, college experience, and life.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 10, 2014 14:48:54 GMT -5
Hope he succeeds elsewhere, but I think this is best case for everyone.
He has a LOT of competition at the wing, and his shot wasn't responding here after two years.
On our end, we have other needs that aren't likely to be fulfilled by a junior SF/SG that is likely to be third at best on a depth chart and likely fourth.
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Post by prhoya on Apr 10, 2014 17:24:51 GMT -5
The writing was on the wall. IMO This is the best move for the kid. At 3 for 27 in his GU career on 3s, there's something terribly wrong with his shot and he gets the transfer year to figure out what happened to his shooting form and confidence. Did he get the proper assistance at GU? We're not at practice to know. The extra year will serve him well to gain confidence at least. He looked like a deer-caught-in-headlights every time he hit the court. That airballed FT did not help. Best of luck to Domingo!
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 10, 2014 21:24:44 GMT -5
This was going to happen, it had to happen for both parties. Don't like to keep repeating that it was probably a mistake for III to get this kid into college a year early....but it was probably a mistake for III to get this kid into college a year early. Maybe it wouldn't have made all the difference but I think it hurt Domingo in some way at least. Plus there was the tension with his high school coach who was against the move and didn't exactly give Domingo his blessing. Let III end such experiments. Hoya Balla kept hoping Copeland would skip his last year in prep too in order to play with the Hoyas this past season and I was dead set against that. Let these guys enjoy their last year before big time athletics take over their lives. With that said I wish Domingo the best. I'm sure a fresh start will do him good. We aren't a blue blood program so we need to take flyers on guys while they are still under the radar either because they are projects (like Hayes or Bolden), come out early (like Domingo and Hollis), haven't played AAU (like Otto) or have some circumstance (Moses just coming to the US). JTII and JTIII understand this. If Domingo or Hollis stayed in high school and increased their ranking and became McDonald's All American they would likely be swooped up by the blue bloods. So it's a gamble but it's a gamble that pays off when we hit the jackpot with guys like Hollis and Otto who are NBA caliber talent. This is the reality of what we have to deal with in the one and done era. There are 24 McDonald's All Americans in 2014. Of that group 15 of the 24 are going to the 5 blue blood schools. 3 of the 24 are going to the 3 Big State Basketball schools. That leaves 5 McDonalds All Americans for the remaining 173 D1 schools including Georgetown. (and the undecided Myles Turner who is likely to go to a blueblood). Blue Bloods: (15 McDonalds recruits) Duke 4 UK 4 UNC 3 Kansas 2 UCLA 2 Big State Schools/Almost Blue Bloods(3 McDonald's recruits) Arizona Indiana Ohio State Non Blue Bloods(The rest of us): (5 McDonalds recruits) SMU Stanford UNLV Maryland Undecided Seton Hall
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 10, 2014 21:29:36 GMT -5
This was going to happen, it had to happen for both parties. Don't like to keep repeating that it was probably a mistake for III to get this kid into college a year early....but it was probably a mistake for III to get this kid into college a year early. Maybe it wouldn't have made all the difference but I think it hurt Domingo in some way at least. Plus there was the tension with his high school coach who was against the move and didn't exactly give Domingo his blessing. Let III end such experiments. Hoya Balla kept hoping Copeland would skip his last year in prep too in order to play with the Hoyas this past season and I was dead set against that. Let these guys enjoy their last year before big time athletics take over their lives. With that said I wish Domingo the best. I'm sure a fresh start will do him good. We aren't a blue blood program so we need to take flyers on guys while they are still under the radar either because they are projects (like Hayes), come out early (like Domingo and Hollis), haven't played AAU (like Otto) or have some circumstance (Moses just coming to the US). JTII and JTIII understand this. If Domingo or Hollis stayed in high school and increased their ranking and became McDonald's All American they would likely be swooped up by the blue bloods. So it's a gamble but it's a gamble that pays off when we hit the jackpot with guys like Hollis and Otto who are NBA caliber talent. This is the reality of what we have to deal with in the one and done era. There are 24 McDonald's All Americans in 2014. Of that group 15 of the 24 are going to the 5 blue blood schools. 3 of the 24 are going to the 3 Big State Basketball schools. That leaves 5 McDonalds All Americans for the remaining 173 D1 schools including Georgetown. (and the undecided Myles Turner who is likely to go to a blueblood). Blue Bloods: Duke 4 UK 4 UNC 3 Kansas 2 UCLA 2 Big State Schools/Almost Blue Bloods Arizona Indiana Ohio State Non Blue Bloods: SMU Stanford UNLV Maryland Undecided Seton Hall Your math looks off on this post..
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 10, 2014 21:33:35 GMT -5
Your math looks off on this post.. How is it off?
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Post by EtomicB on Apr 10, 2014 21:36:09 GMT -5
Your math looks off on this post.. How is it off? Looks like you updated the 48 to 24 and added in the Myles Turner blurb.. It makes sense now
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Post by dreamhoya on Apr 10, 2014 22:09:31 GMT -5
There was literally nothing the past 2 years that suggested he is a high D1 player. His shot/form was atrocious every time he put it up and didn't show a handle at all. True but I think Domingo's a good player. Not great. Wasn't in love with him out of high school but he can be a good player.
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Post by This Just In on Apr 10, 2014 23:16:50 GMT -5
At least Jerry hit shots in practice. Domingo couldn't even hit in Kenner. I remember seeing people posting on this board that Domingo was lighting it up last year in Kenner and people in the crowd asking who is that.. This stuff was posted in the Kenner League thread.. Now you are saying this... Did u post this in the Kenner League thread too??
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Post by This Just In on Apr 10, 2014 23:28:50 GMT -5
Domingo I believe can be a good shooter...he lost confidence, shot some air balls and started to get the quick hook.. When he got here was ahead of Aaron Bowen in the rotation by the end of the 2012/2013 Bowen had passed Domingo in the rotation... This year when he was inserted he struggled some...but he has some promise...
I don't believe he should have been recruited over but Reggie Cameron appears to have been recruited over Domingo anyways... Even before the new recruits come in the fall... Pretty much to my eyes Cameron and Domingo is the same skill set..so the writing was on the wall..wish him luck...
Wherever he goes hopefully the coaches can work on his game and he live up to all the recruiting hype he had on this board...
Basically he was hyped as the 2nd coming...now he is gone..
There is something wrong when the hype machine and clamors from posters for players to skip current players in the rotation does not live up to on the court results.
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Post by 71hoya on Apr 11, 2014 8:49:38 GMT -5
I just went back and read all of the Domingo posts from when he was a recruit. How can so many knowledgeable people be so wrong. His highlights are exactly that, but his stats, especially from 3 were terrific.
As per rivals back in 2011: Stephen Domingo, SF (San Francisco, 2013)- The ridiculous shooting display he put on from deep during the Top 50 camp game was just the culmination of what he'd done all weekend. Given that he's already a highly ranked four-star prospect, it's not a surprise that he was able to go off for 30 points (11-18 FG, 5-7 3PT) and six rebounds. Domingo is as pure a jump shooter as there is in the country, regardless of class, has great size and he is much more skilled creating shots off the dribble than people want to give him credit for.
What changed? He hit more 3s in the one game than he did in his career at G-Town. Of course defenses are better, but when you have a shooter like Domingo was suppose to be, you design plays to get him open. This never happened.
I think Georgetown did him wrong and I hope he goes on to have a fantastic college experience.
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Post by chep3 on Apr 11, 2014 9:09:51 GMT -5
How did we do him wrong?
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Post by drquigley on Apr 11, 2014 9:25:24 GMT -5
I just went back and read all of the Domingo posts from when he was a recruit. How can so many knowledgeable people be so wrong. His highlights are exactly that, but his stats, especially from 3 were terrific. As per rivals back in 2011: Stephen Domingo, SF (San Francisco, 2013)- The ridiculous shooting display he put on from deep during the Top 50 camp game was just the culmination of what he'd done all weekend. Given that he's already a highly ranked four-star prospect, it's not a surprise that he was able to go off for 30 points (11-18 FG, 5-7 3PT) and six rebounds. Domingo is as pure a jump shooter as there is in the country, regardless of class, has great size and he is much more skilled creating shots off the dribble than people want to give him credit for. What changed? He hit more 3s in the one game than he did in his career at G-Town. Of course defenses are better, but when you have a shooter like Domingo was suppose to be, you design plays to get him open. This never happened. I think Georgetown did him wrong and I hope he goes on to have a fantastic college experience. We really need to understand that what a guy does at a camp is not representative of what he will do in a big time Div 1 program. Even what he can do in high school. The level of defense they face is nowhere near as high as it is here. Recruiters have to really spend time seeing how these guys do against serious competition, not the kind you see at a camp or even an AAU or Kenner game. I go to tons of high school games and can't tell you how many guys I see who look great but never reach the same level in Div 1 bball. It all about the defense they will face at our level. Taking a kid with only 3 years of high school ball is ridiculous. Sure we have to gamble sometimes but we still have to use common sense.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 11, 2014 9:33:03 GMT -5
What changed? He hit more 3s in the one game than he did in his career at G-Town. Of course defenses are better, but when you have a shooter like Domingo was suppose to be, you design plays to get him open. This never happened. I think Georgetown did him wrong and I hope he goes on to have a fantastic college experience. The problem was not that we did not "design" plays for Domingo. The problem is that he couldn't hit shots. I would add that Domingo also got a shot. At the beginning of his freshman year, JT3 gave Domingo some time, but Domingo did not do much with it. He also had a shot a few times this year and never made anything of it. Given how badly this team needed shooting options, if there was even a remote chance Domingo could have contributed, he would have been on the floor even more. Everything that we saw this season indicated he could not provide that. That said, the kid clearly had some high school talent and for his own sake, I hope he turns it around. I don't think we can have any regrets on Domingo, even if he were to develop into a very good player. With our incoming talent, there's no chance he would get playing time, and I don't think anybody in their right mind would choose Domingo over our incoming talent.
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Post by DanMcQ on Apr 11, 2014 10:12:15 GMT -5
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Post by 71hoya on Apr 11, 2014 10:52:31 GMT -5
Domingo gave up his senior year of High School to come play basketball at Georgetown and in reality he never did. That was a lot to ask. If it was his idea then Thompson should have made sure he was ready. If he was pressured to do this by Georgetown, then we as sure as hell should have made sure he was ready. Education is very important to this kid and we did give him that, which is fantastic but as far as basketball is concerned, I don't think he ever really got a chance. Did he not fit into the system? Coaches should have know this before he was brought in. This was a gamble by Georgetown and the only person who really lost was Stephen.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 11, 2014 11:30:28 GMT -5
A shooter who cannot shoot doesn't fit into any system. How can the coaches know that he would lose his shooting touch if he was lighting it up in high school? The fact is no matter how much coaches examine somebody, sometimes you cannot predict the future.
I also realize that another year of high school may have helped, but keep in mind Domingo was playing against high level talent in college practice that same year. And he did the same for a 2nd year. I realize more high school may have bolstered Domingo's confidence, but it's not like he gave up a year of high school to come to Georgetown to do nothing. Just because he didn't get much game time doesn't mean he wasn't attempting to develop in the meantime.
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Post by hoyainspirit on Apr 11, 2014 12:16:04 GMT -5
I just went back and read all of the Domingo posts from when he was a recruit. How can so many knowledgeable people be so wrong. His highlights are exactly that, but his stats, especially from 3 were terrific. As per rivals back in 2011: Stephen Domingo, SF (San Francisco, 2013)- The ridiculous shooting display he put on from deep during the Top 50 camp game was just the culmination of what he'd done all weekend. Given that he's already a highly ranked four-star prospect, it's not a surprise that he was able to go off for 30 points (11-18 FG, 5-7 3PT) and six rebounds. Domingo is as pure a jump shooter as there is in the country, regardless of class, has great size and he is much more skilled creating shots off the dribble than people want to give him credit for. What changed? He hit more 3s in the one game than he did in his career at G-Town. Of course defenses are better, but when you have a shooter like Domingo was suppose to be, you design plays to get him open. This never happened. I think Georgetown did him wrong and I hope he goes on to have a fantastic college experience. What?
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