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Post by GUJook97 on Jun 4, 2014 15:09:57 GMT -5
I agree, but if we were going to play Indiana twice in 3 years, I wish we could have just done a home and home.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 4, 2014 15:47:07 GMT -5
Playing an OOC at MSG every year would be a great way to keep the Big East/NYC imprint in the public eye during the regular season. If a combined 18 home games between St. John's and the Hall aren't keeping up the imprint, I'm not sure a game two days after Christmas and scheduled against ESPN's Pinstripe Bowl will garner any more or less buzz.
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Post by seaweed on Jun 4, 2014 15:55:37 GMT -5
Oh no, not the pinstripe bowl...
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Post by TBird41 on Jun 4, 2014 16:04:31 GMT -5
Playing an OOC at MSG every year would be a great way to keep the Big East/NYC imprint in the public eye during the regular season. If a combined 18 home games between St. John's and the Hall aren't keeping up the imprint, I'm not sure a game two days after Christmas and scheduled against ESPN's Pinstripe Bowl will garner any more or less buzz. I'm sure that games against New York City's College Team Seton Hall should be enough to keep the BE in the NYC public's eye. Nothing like a game in Newark to catch the attention of the movers and shakers in the Big Apple!
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Post by DoctorHoya on Jun 4, 2014 18:12:50 GMT -5
If a combined 18 home games between St. John's and the Hall aren't keeping up the imprint, I'm not sure a game two days after Christmas and scheduled against ESPN's Pinstripe Bowl will garner any more or less buzz. I'm sure that games against New York City's College Team Seton Hall should be enough to keep the BE in the NYC public's eye. Nothing like a game in Newark to catch the attention of the movers and shakers in the Big Apple! St. John's?
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 4, 2014 19:16:02 GMT -5
Playing an OOC at MSG every year would be a great way to keep the Big East/NYC imprint in the public eye during the regular season. If a combined 18 home games between St. John's and the Hall aren't keeping up the imprint, I'm not sure a game two days after Christmas and scheduled against ESPN's Pinstripe Bowl will garner any more or less buzz. NYC area teams playing at MSG do not make nearly the impression that GU, Nova etc. do playing there.
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Post by FLHoya on Jun 4, 2014 20:34:38 GMT -5
If a combined 18 home games between St. John's and the Hall aren't keeping up the imprint, I'm not sure a game two days after Christmas and scheduled against ESPN's Pinstripe Bowl will garner any more or less buzz. NYC area teams playing at MSG do not make nearly the impression that GU, Nova etc. do playing there. We really need...uhhhhhh, somebody, I'm not sure...to be good again for the sake of the New Big East.
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Post by SirSaxa on Jun 4, 2014 21:29:18 GMT -5
We really need...uhhhhhh, somebody, I'm not sure...to be good again for the sake of the New Big East. Totally agree FL... and, I hereby nominate.... Seven time BET Champion and 10 time Be Conference Champion... yoooouuurrrrr Geeeeooooorgetown HOOYYYYYAAAASSS!!
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Post by tashoya on Jun 4, 2014 21:44:48 GMT -5
If a combined 18 home games between St. John's and the Hall aren't keeping up the imprint, I'm not sure a game two days after Christmas and scheduled against ESPN's Pinstripe Bowl will garner any more or less buzz. NYC area teams playing at MSG do not make nearly the impression that GU, Nova etc. do playing there. Frazier, The Johnnies have been drawing better the past 2+ years. No one wants to see Seton Hall play. But that's not new.
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Post by justsaying on Jun 5, 2014 8:36:08 GMT -5
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Post by vamosalaplaya on Jun 5, 2014 11:12:56 GMT -5
IU has a large NY fanbase and it's a basketball school not a football school - all the alums remember their days at Assembly Hall and they come out full force; after not playing in NY for two decades, they seem to be coming to NY once a year as they are attracting more and more undergrads from the area. They had a huge crowd at both the GU game two years ago - what a great atmosphere and game that was - and they were almost as loud as the UConn faithful during an early season match up last November against the Huskies.
All is to say it should be a great environment. Way better than the Syracuse Pinstripe Bowl, with it's freezing weather and overpriced seats and crappy sightlines.
Of course it isn't a home game for the Hoyas. That's a bummer.
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Post by FrazierFanatic on Jun 5, 2014 11:22:41 GMT -5
NYC area teams playing at MSG do not make nearly the impression that GU, Nova etc. do playing there. Frazier, The Johnnies have been drawing better the past 2+ years. No one wants to see Seton Hall play. But that's not new. My point was that St. John's has played at the Garden for decades, so their games there do not stand out at all. Georgetown or Villanova at the Garden is a Big East thing.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jun 5, 2014 12:32:48 GMT -5
Of course it isn't a home game for the Hoyas. That's a bummer. Given the timing of this game, I actually think New York might be a better venue. If this game was held in DC, two days after Christmas, I think there would probably be very few Hoyas fans in attendance. There would be no students there, and even while being at home, it wouldn't have a real home game feel. Thus, given the circumstances, I think the game will probably get better attendance at MSG than it would at the Verizon Center, so I have no real problem with it. Depending on how the Big 10 / Big East thing shakes out, we could very well start the season with a Big 10 opponent at home, which would be nice consolation. Arguably, our OOC schedule could be better and more exciting than our Big East schedule, with another Big 10 opponent to start the season, Kansas, potentially three high quality games in Atlantis, and now Indiana. That's potentially 6 very high quality games. As of now, only one is home, which stinks for season ticket holders, but it's great for the team and NCAA chances/seeding if we can win some of these games. If we can win 4 of those 6 (feasible, in my opinion), and go 10-8 in the Big East, I think we'd be an easy tournament team. I think we can do better than this, too, depending on how things shake out.
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Post by DFW HOYA on Jun 5, 2014 13:05:56 GMT -5
Of course it isn't a home game for the Hoyas. That's a bummer. Given the timing of this game, I actually think New York might be a better venue. If this game was held in DC, two days after Christmas, I think there would probably be very few Hoyas fans in attendance. There would be no students there, and even while being at home, it wouldn't have a real home game feel. Thus, given the circumstances, I think the game will probably get better attendance at MSG than it would at the Verizon Center, so I have no real problem with it. The last four non-conference games in NYC: Indiana: 10,071 UCLA: 10,478 Texas: No attendance listed Michigan State: 12,561 I understand the staff wants to play in NYC, but as previously discussed, there are other options. The game would draw just as well at the United Center in Chicago.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2014 13:18:17 GMT -5
Given the timing of this game, I actually think New York might be a better venue. If this game was held in DC, two days after Christmas, I think there would probably be very few Hoyas fans in attendance. There would be no students there, and even while being at home, it wouldn't have a real home game feel. Thus, given the circumstances, I think the game will probably get better attendance at MSG than it would at the Verizon Center, so I have no real problem with it. NYC turnout has been less than remarkable for recent Georgetown games. The last four non-conference games in NYC: Indiana: 10,071 UCLA: 10,478 Texas: No attendance listed Michigan State: 12,561 Don't lump that meat locker out in Brooklyn with MSG.
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Post by TBird41 on Jun 5, 2014 13:26:16 GMT -5
Given the timing of this game, I actually think New York might be a better venue. If this game was held in DC, two days after Christmas, I think there would probably be very few Hoyas fans in attendance. There would be no students there, and even while being at home, it wouldn't have a real home game feel. Thus, given the circumstances, I think the game will probably get better attendance at MSG than it would at the Verizon Center, so I have no real problem with it. The last four non-conference games in NYC: Indiana: 10,071 UCLA: 10,478 Texas: No attendance listed Michigan State: 12,561 I understand the staff wants to play in NYC, but as previously discussed, there are other options. The game would draw just as well at the United Center in Chicago. Of course, last year's game at Seton Hall likely didn't capture the attention of NYC, since it drew only 6,590 people.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Jun 5, 2014 13:47:20 GMT -5
The last four non-conference games in NYC: Indiana: 10,071 UCLA: 10,478 Texas: No attendance listed Michigan State: 12,561 I understand the staff wants to play in NYC, but as previously discussed, there are other options. The game would draw just as well at the United Center in Chicago. These games might draw as well in Chicago, but I think the New York Madison Square Garden location is part of the reason why these games happen at all. Georgetown goes to New York all the time, but schools like Indiana do not, and it provides an opportunity for exposure in New York and it provides the players themselves with a chance to visit New York. The UCLA game was on a Monday night. The Indiana and Texas games were held on Tuesday night. The UCLA and Indiana games were in Brooklyn at the Barclays Center. The UCLA and Indiana games were good match ups; the Texas game was not because Texas was pretty bad that season. The Michigan State game was specifically held in New York because of the Super Bowl promotional event. The attendance was okay, but the weather was extremely cold at the time. That said, how well do OOC games in general draw? If the games against Indiana were in Chicago, there might be more Indiana fans, but would they really get 15,000-20,000 fans? I'm doubtful. I also don't know why we would want to play a game closer to Indiana where they would be more likely to have a home court advantage. How will this game draw? It's on a weekend which should help compared to the four games listed above, but it's also 2 days after Christmas which could suppress attendance. My sense is that it will come in at the 10-12K range, unless Georgetown and/or Indiana are very high ranked by that point.
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Post by HometownHoya on Jun 5, 2014 13:48:47 GMT -5
Given the timing of this game, I actually think New York might be a better venue. If this game was held in DC, two days after Christmas, I think there would probably be very few Hoyas fans in attendance. There would be no students there, and even while being at home, it wouldn't have a real home game feel. Thus, given the circumstances, I think the game will probably get better attendance at MSG than it would at the Verizon Center, so I have no real problem with it. The last four non-conference games in NYC: Indiana: 10,071 UCLA: 10,478 Texas: No attendance listed Michigan State: 12,561 I understand the staff wants to play in NYC, but as previously discussed, there are other options. The game would draw just as well at the United Center in Chicago. I can't complain about a matchup against a high major team in the arena where we play the BET. It'll be good to get the newcomers used to an electric atmosphere there before getting to post season play.
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Post by PhillyHoya on Jun 5, 2014 14:10:01 GMT -5
The last four non-conference games in NYC: Indiana: 10,071 UCLA: 10,478 Texas: No attendance listed Michigan State: 12,561 I understand the staff wants to play in NYC, but as previously discussed, there are other options. The game would draw just as well at the United Center in Chicago. Of course, last year's game at Seton Hall likely didn't capture the attention of NYC, since it drew only 6,590 people. That game was also a Thursday 9PM game in Newark. Put that on a Saturday and it's 9-10K.
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Post by skyhoya on Jun 5, 2014 14:27:33 GMT -5
women's volleyball draws more than that
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