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Post by happyhoya1979 on Apr 7, 2014 22:49:53 GMT -5
Can you imagine being UConn and having the choice between the Big 10 and the ACC in the bidding war that will now occur for its program. Or conversely, the AAC might now be able to recruit Louisville, and maybe Notre Dame to its ranks. The mountain of money coming to Storrs will be enormous, whatever happens.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 7, 2014 22:52:34 GMT -5
Can you imagine being UConn and having the choice between the Big 10 and the ACC in the bidding war that will now occur for its program. Or conversely, the AAC might now be able to recruit Louisville, and maybe Notre Dame to its ranks. The mountain of money coming to Storrs will be enormous, whatever happens. Realignment is about football. The championship cannot hurt for sure, but I don't think it changes things all that much. Connecticut is one of the most likely teams to go when expansion happens. Nobody is going to be recruited to the AAC. The conference will take a step down next year without Louisville and by adding Tulsa and Tulane.
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Post by mfk24 on Apr 7, 2014 22:53:28 GMT -5
College basketball plays no role whatsoever in the realignment game. It's driven by football and football alone. So UConn is still stuck squarely in the AAC, Louisville and ND are still headed for greener pastures and at the end of the day, absolutely nothing has changed.
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Post by 757hoyafan on Apr 7, 2014 22:55:24 GMT -5
I doubt Louisville is interested in going from 17 million to 3 per school year from ESPN.
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Post by nashvillehoyas on Apr 7, 2014 22:58:40 GMT -5
Agree with happyhoya 1979, Whether ACC expand or not, UConn is on their mind. If UConn drop football then what.....
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 7, 2014 22:59:34 GMT -5
Can you imagine being UConn and having the choice between the Big 10 and the ACC in the bidding war that will now occur for its program. Or conversely, the AAC might now be able to recruit Louisville, and maybe Notre Dame to its ranks. The mountain of money coming to Storrs will be enormous, whatever happens. They are in the backseat. The reason they can't get in is because of the football. Nobody wants to share the football TV money with a school that doesn't bring anything to the table football wise. Plus Boston College has some kind of veto power and doesn't want UConn in the ACC.
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Post by skyhoya on Apr 7, 2014 23:04:02 GMT -5
the BIG looked at UCONN during the last expansion, they aren't even close academically. I was surprised that they took Rutgers.
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Post by This Just In on Apr 7, 2014 23:04:34 GMT -5
Agree with happyhoya 1979, Whether ACC expand or not, UConn is on their mind. If UConn drop football then what..... If UConn dropped football then the Big East would come calling.... I dont know if they would come back as they may believe as Colin Cowherd and think that the Big East kicked them and the other football schools out the league..
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 7, 2014 23:07:49 GMT -5
Agree with happyhoya 1979, Whether ACC expand or not, UConn is on their mind. If UConn drop football then what..... If UConn dropped football then the Big East would come calling.... I dont know if they would come back as they may believe as Colin Cowherd and think that the Big East kicked them and the other football schools out the league.. Big East didn't have a choice. Can't be taken hostage by the football schools or history will just repeat itself. Even UConn fans understood why the Big East couldn't take them and they don't blame us.
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Post by 757hoyafan on Apr 7, 2014 23:08:43 GMT -5
the BIG looked at UCONN during the last expansion, they aren't even close academically. I was surprised that they took Rutgers. NJ/NY market, I'm guessing...
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Post by strummer8526 on Apr 7, 2014 23:45:21 GMT -5
I understand why the Big East wants to have a super majority of basketball-only schools. The decision making has to remain basketball first. But would it kill the league to have one school with a football team? Maybe even two? If we could get UConn and Memphis, don't we take them in a heartbeat? They wouldn't have the votes to do anything of consequence in terms of league structure. And if they bail in a few years, so be it--then it's on to Plan B. But as of right now, I want UConn back in the league.
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Post by NCHoya on Apr 8, 2014 11:00:46 GMT -5
UConn is in anything but the driver's seat. The money in Basketball is a fraction of what is generated by football. The BIG does not want UConn because they are not part of that association of colleges that they require and because UConn does not open any new markets or major recruiting grounds to the conference.
The ACC is UConn's best bet. If Maryland wins its legal battle and escapes without paying the full exit price then that will set off one last football expansion wave which would most likely result in Uconn in the ACC. I am sure they would be next in line. Until then, Uconn, Cincy and Memphis will need to band together keep the AAC afloat in basketball; meanwhile their football program will likely only get weaker.
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Post by lichoya68 on Apr 8, 2014 11:20:50 GMT -5
football EVERYTHING bball NOTHING just saying yup thats the truth imo of course.
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Post by GUMBA on Apr 8, 2014 11:56:41 GMT -5
The AAC stands at ten teams today with Louisville exiting for the ACC and Rutgers to the BIG TEN next year with Tulane and Tulsa back-filling in the fall and Navy joining for football the following year. UCONN, Cincinnati, Memphis and Temple are all solid basketball schools that also believe they need to have competitive D-I football programs. They are not leaving to join the Big East and the Big Ten will not have them. The ACC will have 16 schools next year once UMD leaves and Louisville takes their place. If the exit fee issue gets resolved for low $$$ then you might, maybe see the SEC (14 members) and BIG TEN (14 members) try to poach ACC members like Virginia, North Carolina, Notre Dame or Clemson to get their conferences to 16 schools with two divisions of 8 teams each. Texas, Kansas and Oklahoma from the Big XII would also be potential targets for expansion of those leagues. I agree that the Big East could and should consider public schools that are basketball first programs which could play football in other conferences. That was the vision of the original Big East - a hybrid conference - and there is nothing to say if couldn't work in the future so long as private basketball schools make up the bulk of the conference and votes. Why not use the public schools to attract eyeballs, crowds and BET sellouts if they bring a quality product? They may choose to move on at some point but it doesn't hurt to have them build and maintain the conference in the near time. That said, UCONN isn't coming back tot he Big East. I wish it wasn't the case but that is the truth.
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Post by nashvillehoyas on Apr 8, 2014 12:09:05 GMT -5
GUMBA, are you suggesting that the AAC become a football conference. Then UConn, Temple, UMemphis, Cincy and Temple return to Big East for BB and remain in AAC for FB. Sounds good to me.
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Post by calhoya on Apr 8, 2014 12:24:30 GMT -5
Might work, but there are many other sports to consider as well as men's basketball and football. I wonder why the Big East and the AAC could not develop a "challenge" series in which the two conferences collaborate in scheduling games in multiple sports. SMU is now a rising power in basketball and Houston is certainly to trying to upgrade. I think that even the occasional game against an AAC bottom-feeder would be no worse than playing Elon or Longwood. I am certain that the Hoyas could draw better crowds bringing in Conn., Memphis, Cincy and Temple.
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Post by NCHoya on Apr 8, 2014 12:37:19 GMT -5
I have been thinking the same thing Calhoya. The AAC and BE are kind of in similar positions and familiar with each other. I am sure there are some hard feelings, but they need each other enough to look past that history. It would be smart to put together some sort of scheduling relationship for all sports outside of football.
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Post by turbohoya on Apr 8, 2014 12:56:20 GMT -5
Oh man - we just finally undid years worth of turmoil attached to football and now you guys want to go back to the "football hybrid"? Basketball only, period. Want to schedule each other in other sports? that can work... But conference affiliation with people who have football aspirations means that they will always seek to join a conference that can help their football first and foremost.
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Post by CAHoya07 on Apr 8, 2014 13:00:02 GMT -5
The ACC will have 16 schools next year once UMD leaves and Louisville takes their place. Minor quibble, but the ACC will still have 15 schools, as it did last year - 14 football schools in 7-team divisions; and 15 for basketball with Notre Dame, with the substitution of Louisville for Maryland next season. On a side note, I don't understand all the people thinking ACC will be the best basketball conference hands down. They'll improve with Louisville next season for sure, but I still just don't see it - I thought the Big 10 and 12 were the best this year, with the Pac-12 not far behind (and technically, even the Big East had a better RPI rating than the ACC). But we'll see what happens next year. I agree with others, UConn definitely not in the driver's seat - football rules. Interesting to see what happens with UConn football and the AAC in the next 5 years or so; Huskies have been pretty dreadful since somehow making the 2011 Fiesta Bowl and getting smacked by Oklahoma, after which Randy Edsall left. They have a new coach for next season, so we'll see - AAC also trying pretty hard to be a football conference, and a challenger to the Power 5. I also really don't see UConn, Memphis or any of those schools dropping football at this point - that's a pipe dream at best for us, IMO. They've invested too much in those programs, and things would have to get really bad for those schools to drop football. Will be interesting to see if the Maryland suit will kick off another round of realignment, but that might take years. Finally, was shocking to see how bad Temple was this past year: 9-22, 4-14 in conference. Not quite sure what happened, but will be interesting to see if they can get back.
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Post by GUMBA on Apr 8, 2014 16:42:18 GMT -5
Sorry - miscounted the ACC schools - yes it is 15 schools in basketball and 14 in football. I agree that a Big East - AAC challenge series could be good for both conferences.
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