deacon
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Post by deacon on Apr 6, 2014 0:20:31 GMT -5
Great news! This was his first attempt right? I thought it may take him two or three tries before he made it (still think that is the case with Mutombo). JT may end up with four former players who make it to the Hall of Fame (AI is a first ballot lock). I'd be surprised if Deke makes it in. Zo wasn't a lock for first ballot but Deke isn't a shoe-in in any year. If you look at Zo's numbers without knowing anything else, they don't jump off the page. Statistically, he's almost borderline. But he was also one of those players, in college and the pros, that numbers don't reflect his presence on a team or on the floor. Zo could be dominant without putting up dominant numbers. He also put up dominant numbers for a handful of years. I'm glad he was inducted his first year because, Hoya or not, he deserves it. Dikembe was the NBA DPOY four times, an eight-time All-Star, six time All-Defensive teamer, three-time All-NBA and is currently second in league history in blocks and 19th in career rebounds. That's a Hall of Fame resume, period. |
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Post by professorhoya on Apr 6, 2014 0:47:43 GMT -5
The criteria for the NBA Hall of Fame is kind of weird in that it considers pro, college, olympic and high school accomplishments.
Zo has a 2000 Gold medal at the Olympics
1994 World Championships Gold.
Mcdonald's All American MVP
Naismith Prep Player of the Year
NBA champion (2006)
7× NBA All-Star (1994–1997, 2000–2002)
All-NBA First Team (1999)
All-NBA Second Team (2000)
2× NBA Defensive Player of the Year (1999–2000)
2× NBA All-Defensive First Team (1999–2000)
2× NBA blocks champion (1999-2000)
NBA All-Rookie First Team (1993)
Consensus first team All-American (1992)
Consensus second team All-American (1990)
Big East Conference Player of the Year (1992)
Big East Tournament MVP (1992)
When you consider the totality of all those accomplishments it's pretty easy to see why he got in. It's not based on just NBA accolades.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2014 4:10:34 GMT -5
Zo and Deke put in work against the Heels…
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Apr 6, 2014 20:13:56 GMT -5
I'd be surprised if Deke makes it in. Zo wasn't a lock for first ballot but Deke isn't a shoe-in in any year. If you look at Zo's numbers without knowing anything else, they don't jump off the page. Statistically, he's almost borderline. But he was also one of those players, in college and the pros, that numbers don't reflect his presence on a team or on the floor. Zo could be dominant without putting up dominant numbers. He also put up dominant numbers for a handful of years. I'm glad he was inducted his first year because, Hoya or not, he deserves it. If it was all about offense Mutombo doesn't make it. But Dennis Rodman proved, and so did a few other guys, that it doesn't always come down to that. Mutombo was an astounding rebounder who also happened to be a three time Defensive Player of the Year and roughly 8 time (maybe more) All Star Player. Plus he started for two teams that made the NBA Finals and was an All-American in college. That is a worthy resume. Plus there is the added bonus who is well-liked and is known for his considerable charity off the court, sometimes under the NBA banner. I bet you Ben Wallace will be getting into the Hall of Fame as well despite being a guy known for his defense and rebounding much more than his offensive contributions. Of course Wallace has an advantage with an NBA Championship, but Deke has the advantage with far more All Star selections. I hope you're right and your reasoning and Deke's resume are sound. I just don't think he's a sure-fire first ballot guy. I sure hope he gets in and gets in at his first opportunity. That said, I'm sure there are plenty of people out there that don't think Zo is a Hall of Famer. I'm certainly not one of those people but I'm also a homer. |
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Post by cosmopolitanhoya on Apr 8, 2014 0:37:08 GMT -5
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Apr 8, 2014 8:09:03 GMT -5
Just posted this in the Trey recruiting page too. With all the doom and gloom going on around here really refreshing to read a story like that about a program like ours that has changed lives not just with that round orange ball. Zo really is a legend and couldn't be prouder that he was a Hoya. What a fantastic role model.
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Post by SSHoya on Apr 12, 2014 5:01:00 GMT -5
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Apr 12, 2014 8:00:13 GMT -5
What a spokesperson for Georgetown and for all gifted athletes all over the country. Mourning should go on the road with this message. I'm in awe. |
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on Apr 12, 2014 20:31:19 GMT -5
Zo is not just a great representative of Georgetown. He's a rare person that appreciates all he's been through. Good and bad. And passes his experiences on in ways that everyone can relate to. He'd be a perfect guy to start a financial services/management company for younger professional athletes. He has the credibility, acumen, and relationships to really help some of those guys that, at an alarming rate, end up broke and hopeless not long after their necessarily short careers are over. It's almost a natural progression from what he has often talked about with regard to Big John and his education (in the class and out) while in college. He's not just a great Hoya. He's a great person. We're lucky to call him one of our own. Again, lucky for us, he's not alone in that regard.
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DanMcQ
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Post by DanMcQ on May 13, 2014 12:38:21 GMT -5
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tashoya
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Post by tashoya on May 13, 2014 20:24:05 GMT -5
Thanks Dan. Big John is funny as usual. That reporter fell out at the end. Alonzo is a class act as always.
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