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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 2, 2014 7:50:37 GMT -5
Three questions on this year's event:
1. Timing: The staff's preference for a midweek event makes it infeasible for any out-of-towners to attend. Do people see the date as a concern; or, if your're local, does it matter?
2. Cost: The price is now $100 per person. Does that affect your interest or ability to attend?
3. No Awards: JTIII dropped all individual awards after the 2008 season. Does it matter?
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Apr 2, 2014 7:53:50 GMT -5
The only thing I could possibly take issue with is the mid week date. I'm local, but it would have been nice to make it more feasible for out of towers.
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Post by RockawayHoya on Apr 2, 2014 8:42:25 GMT -5
I attended last year's banquet, which I believe was on a Thursday. As a business traveler though, the Wednesday date this year eliminates any chance I'll be able to make it, which is disappointing.
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Post by calhoya on Apr 2, 2014 9:56:46 GMT -5
Three questions on this year's event: 1. Timing: The staff's preference for a midweek event makes it infeasible for any out-of-towners to attend. Do people see the date as a concern; or, if your're local, does it matter? 2. Cost: The price is now $100 per person. Does that affect your interest or ability to attend? 3. No Awards: JTIII dropped all individual awards after the 2008 season. Does it matter? Should be held on weekends to allow for out of towners to attend. I attended several in the past and looked forward to these evenings as a means of reconnecting with other fans and the school officials. Simply not possible to travel across country for a mid-week event now unless there is a business reason to go back to DC. My question is whether it would be a violation of recruiting rules to have recruits and potential recruits in attendance at such events. I suspect so but do not know. The cost is not an issue in my mind and the absence of awards is a good development. There are enough opportunities to recongize the team without creating awards.
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Post by PhillyHoya on Apr 2, 2014 10:00:39 GMT -5
The price is the #1 reason why, despite being local, I haven't attended in a few years. It's the same food, schedule, etc. every single year. All that changes is what random people I'm seated with. As much as I'd like to say goodbye to Markel one last time, it's not worth anywhere near $100 to do so.
Don't really care about the day since I don't attend but I can imagine weekend space can sometimes be hard to come by in Leavey this time of year.
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Post by FLHoya on Apr 2, 2014 10:11:52 GMT -5
Three questions on this year's event: 1. Timing: The staff's preference for a midweek event makes it infeasible for any out-of-towners to attend. Do people see the date as a concern; or, if your're local, does it matter? 2. Cost: The price is now $100 per person. Does that affect your interest or ability to attend? 3. No Awards: JTIII dropped all individual awards after the 2008 season. Does it matter? 1. As a local, the day of the week isn't a big concern--I live less than 5 miles from campus. It's the predictability that kills it for me. I went to maybe five of 'em, but honestly if you've been to one you've been to them all. When it got to the point that I literally predicted the entire meal ahead of time, down to the number of asparagus spears on the plate, it was probably time to take a break. It's the exact same thing every year--same food, same highlight video produced the same way, same way of introducing the players and guests, same platitudes from the coach (I know that's how he rolls--he's acknowledged that he comes up with talking points before the season for key questions and repeats them in interviews--but the "we'll figure it out...we are Georgetown" stuff is deeeeeeaaaaaatttthhhhhhh after so many years at the Banquet)...all of this done in the same order. Somebody's got to put more thought into the agenda/planning besides "where's last year's script"? 2. It's way the heck too expensive. Considering everything I said in #1...if the program, location, and food all stay the same, why does it keeping getting more expensive? Did Leavey jack up their rental fees that high? 3. It probably doesn't matter unless you're curating a Hoya Basketball History site.
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Post by SFHoya99 on Apr 2, 2014 11:40:43 GMT -5
As an out of stater, there's been years I would have considered going with more lead time and a weekend night. This is not one of those years. Frankly, I probably won't ever go unless we at least go to another Final Four OR it coincides with something else (like a reunion).
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Post by DFW HOYA on Apr 2, 2014 12:05:10 GMT -5
3. It probably doesn't matter unless you're curating a Hoya Basketball History site. Or if you are selected an award, esp. for players who aren't an MVP. For four years of hard work, I am sure that any player would appreciate the recognition an award connotes. Somewhere out there, a Johnny Jones, a Cheikh Dia or an Omari Faulkner remembers receiving the Raymond (Pebbles) Medley Award and the pride of their parents and friends in attendance, as would a Moses Ayegba, Aaron Bowen, or John Caprio this year. That's what awards are for--recognition and reflection that follows for many years later. But in reality, as long as the same 200 people pay $100 each year, I don't see this metric changing. I would have liked if someone would have book-ended this with those coming into town for the events of Apr 11-12 (GAAP weekend, the Alumni Association volunteer dinner, and the spring football banquet and game), but I don't sense the basketball staff is involved in such coordination. Wednesday is an open date on the calendar, and there it goes.
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Post by JohnnyJones on Apr 2, 2014 13:44:02 GMT -5
Somewhere out there, a Johnny Jones, a Cheikh Dia or an Omari Faulkner remembers receiving the Raymond (Pebbles) Medley Award and the pride of their parents and friends in attendance, as would a Moses Ayegba, Aaron Bowen, or John Caprio this year. That's what awards are for--recognition and reflection that follows for many years later. I am still filled with pride over the Pebbles. Yet all some people seem to remember is my missed dunk at the end of the '89 BET finals.
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Post by FLHoya on Apr 2, 2014 14:47:42 GMT -5
One thing I will add for context is that it's actually not as easy to set the date for this as you might think.
It seems like such an easy solution to just move the Banquet to a weekend or Friday night, to increase the number of supporters who could attend (even DC-based people often can't make early weeknight events due to work). I mean, we have a Banquet every year, and we know it's gonna be in mid to late April, why can't we just choose a weekend before the season or over the summer, before Leavey gets booked?
From what I've understood in previous years being on the Hoop Club Board, the exact date has to fit in the coaching staff's schedule, and that's obviously fluid with coach's many obligations. It seemed in most years like even McDonough never knew the Banquet date until very late on...like around this time of year.
There's probably a Question 4 we could ask that's semi-obvious and someone danced around already: Does the team's performance during the season make you more/less likely to attend a Banquet?
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Post by Problem of Dog on Apr 2, 2014 16:25:33 GMT -5
I think we should give awards this year, but only so we can take them away from certain players to shame them.
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Post by hoyatables on Apr 2, 2014 17:51:49 GMT -5
It's not so much team performance but the way the season ends that usually affects my attendance. Though I did attend after 2007, 2008, and 2012. Helps that GU is a client and I can expense it as business development .
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Post by RusskyHoya on Apr 7, 2014 9:24:01 GMT -5
Yea, what Philly and FL said. It's just the same. damn. thing. every. year. If the season ended on a high note, it'd probably be a lot more fun, but when was the last time that happened? Like so many other things at McDonough (and Georgetown as a whole), this production largely just keeps rolling along by force on inertia. If someone wanted to make it a priority, they could freshen it up, schedule it at a better time, etc. But absent that prioritization, you're gonna get the same thing year in and year out.
It reminds me of commencement in a way. John Q. Pierce has been doing it this way for 30 years, so we're just going to keep doing it this way!
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Post by skyhoya on Apr 9, 2014 10:17:03 GMT -5
For those on the fence to attend, attend. It is an interesting experience. You get an opportunity to talk to the players if you get there early. It is worth a $100 to go. Compared to other events in town, it is worth the price of admission.
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Post by wisconsinhoya on Apr 23, 2014 21:00:00 GMT -5
Does anybody have any highlights or a summary from tonight's basketball banquet for those of us that live halfway across the country ?
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Post by CaliHoya on Apr 24, 2014 0:12:55 GMT -5
Yes, would be very much appreciated!!
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Post by hoyajmw on Apr 24, 2014 8:46:18 GMT -5
I'll try to keep this short/let others fill in details, but highlights to me included: (1) VERY moving speeches by Moses and Markel (the latter of whom called out the team at the end for not working as hard as they should have/warning they need to work harder this year); (2) the reappearance on the dais of Father McFaddon, who gave the opening prayer (but very sadly seemed to have a bit of a medical problem later in the evening that caused Lorie Michael and others to attend to him/hopefully just some dizziness or some such -- prayers be with him....); (3) the official announcement by JT III of the team trip to Italy summer 2015; (4) the commemoration (complete with big crystal bowl) of JTIII's ten years on Hilltop in presentation by Lee Reed -- which also lead to some remarks intermittently by III of how proud he is to be associated with Georgetown and had the definite vibe of "I'm here for the long run" (a fact many of us find reassuring); and (5) closing remarks by JTIII in which he said he almost brought back the awards this year for the limited purpose of giving one to Markel. In conjunction with that, he related a story of getting a call from an NBA scout who had been at Portsmouth, who told III he walked into a lobby down there, spied a bunch of players from afar/couldn't make out who they were but saw one was in a coat and tie and said to his companions "I bet that's the kid from Georgetown." And of course it was Markel...
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Post by CaliHoya on Apr 24, 2014 9:32:49 GMT -5
Thanks Hoyajmw for the recap! I love that story at the end of #5 - smart by Georgetown kids to show they are league-ready in life off the basketball court.
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Post by hoyasaxa2003 on Apr 24, 2014 9:35:32 GMT -5
Thanks for the details hoyajmw. Would somebody elaborate on Moses' speech? It's interesting that Markel called out the team for now working as hard as they should have, but if true, then I think it's totally justified (and surely nothing new given his public comments to the same effect).
The 2015 trip to Italy is also good to see. Hopefully we will be bringing in a large 2015 class, and it provides the perfect opportunity for team building. Not to mention that Italy is a great place to visit.
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Post by calhoya on Apr 24, 2014 9:38:09 GMT -5
I'll try to keep this short/let others fill in details, but highlights to me included: (1) VERY moving speeches by Moses and Markel (the latter of whom called out the team at the end for not working as hard as they should have/warning they need to work harder this year); (2) the reappearance on the dais of Father McFaddon, who gave the opening prayer (but very sadly seemed to have a bit of a medical problem later in the evening that caused Lorie Michael and others to attend to him/hopefully just some dizziness or some such -- prayers be with him....); (3) the official announcement by JT III of the team trip to Italy summer 2015; (4) the commemoration (complete with big crystal bowl) of JTIII's ten years on Hilltop in presentation by Lee Reed -- which also lead to some remarks intermittently by III of how proud he is to be associated with Georgetown and had the definite vibe of "I'm here for the long run" (a fact many of us find reassuring); and (5) closing remarks by JTIII in which he said he almost brought back the awards this year for the limited purpose of giving one to Markel. In conjunction with that, he related a story of getting a call from an NBA scout who had been at Portsmouth, who told III he walked into a lobby down there, spied a bunch of players from afar/couldn't make out who they were but saw one was in a coat and tie and said to his companions "I bet that's the kid from Georgetown." And of course it was Markel... Thank you for the summary. Starks has always been a model for the Hoya program in terms of passion, effort and priorities. He is the player we want to recruit. Hopefully there was some love for Nate as well. Though some may criticize his failure to develop as a more complete player, he is also a member of the Hoya family who should be celebrated for his effort and dedication. Whatever their future these players are the type of individuals who many of us like to think typify the program. I find it interesting that recent JT III comments about Smith talk in terms of knowing what he has to do with respect to conditioning. This is the first time I recall that academics did not get mentioned, which hopefully means that situation is resolved.
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