CAHoya07
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Post by CAHoya07 on Mar 17, 2014 12:09:33 GMT -5
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hoyasexy
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Post by hoyasexy on Mar 17, 2014 12:22:44 GMT -5
And speaking of the whiny coach, did he really say that he is perceived as whiny because he whined once?
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Elvado
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Post by Elvado on Mar 17, 2014 12:23:39 GMT -5
He did say that. He failed to mention that once lasted for 35 years.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 17, 2014 13:05:58 GMT -5
Something to build on...
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miracles87
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Post by miracles87 on Mar 17, 2014 13:09:48 GMT -5
Second, after annihilating Syracuse home and away last year, they only showed the gut wrenching OT loss to Syracuse in the BET. That was a tough loss, but it sure as hell didn't negate the twin beat downs the Hoyas put on the Orange during the regular season, including holding them to their lowest ever point total at the Carrier Dome. Ah well, screw 'Cuse and that whiny egghead coach. Several people bringing this up. It makes narrative sense to use that BET game as a unifying arc in a film called "Requiem for the Big East" because that was the final game of the Big East's best rivalry AND the final game between two original BE schools AND it took place at the venue that made the conference so iconic AND it featured the electric atmosphere (well chronicled especially in the opening) that characterized the conference in its heyday. All four of those things are not coming back in the same form, and that was the final time we'd see them before we figuratively took apart the floor. I loves me some GU-Cuse 2013 regular season highlights. Got the Washington Post from the Carrier Dome game in a display case, Jim Burr all calling four-point plays and stuff. But it'd make no narrative sense to dwell on the two regular season games, just like it was fine to mention in passing that GU and Nova had played a few times in 1985 without showing a bunch of highlights. I guess I'd have to disagree that it makes no narrative sense to feature the last regular season games, they were massively hyped as era ending games before they happened, and that Dome game was an historic whuppin', and I would argue the Carrier Dome was as iconic as Big East venues come, but maybe I'm still hopelessly bitter about that BET loss...
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hoyaboy1
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Post by hoyaboy1 on Mar 17, 2014 13:45:45 GMT -5
Definitely recommend this, but found it to be pretty damn depressing.
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bmartin
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Post by bmartin on Mar 17, 2014 14:18:27 GMT -5
And speaking of the whiny coach, did he really say that he is perceived as whiny because he whined once? I loved the quote from Raftery that Pearl Washington made Boeheim look like he had a personality.
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Filo
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Post by Filo on Mar 17, 2014 14:54:06 GMT -5
And speaking of the whiny coach, did he really say that he is perceived as whiny because he whined once? I loved the quote from Raftery that Pearl Washington made Boeheim look like he had a personality. Yes, my wife and I literally laughed out loud. Nobody better than Raf.
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HoyaPride
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Post by HoyaPride on Mar 17, 2014 15:04:16 GMT -5
I assume the current team watched the documentary. Do you think any of them had the understanding that this is the program that they were recruited into? And the way they approach the game (albeit different eras and coaches) could learn alot, especially on the defensive end from the intensity that Pops' teams played with?
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drquigley
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Post by drquigley on Mar 17, 2014 15:43:11 GMT -5
Great documentary. Nearly in tears at the end. If you ever saw the movie "Hoop Dreams" you noticed that the one kid they focused on always wore Hoya paraphernalia. And this was a kid in Chicago. Can't underestimate the impact of the BE in the african american community. Regarding the causes of the demise of the BE I am reminded of this quote from The Communist Manifesto. "The bourgeoisie has stripped of its halo every occupation hitherto honoured and looked up to with reverent awe. It has converted the physician, the lawyer, the priest, the poet, the man of science, into its paid wage labourers.The bourgeoisie has torn away from the family its sentimental veil, and has reduced the family relation to a mere money relation”. The Boston Globe reporter said it best, "Capitalism created the BE and Capitalism killed it".
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EasyEd
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Post by EasyEd on Mar 17, 2014 18:20:01 GMT -5
Looks like this program will be repeated on ESPNU at 2:00 AM tomorrow (tonight).
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Mar 17, 2014 21:29:15 GMT -5
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Mar 17, 2014 21:32:00 GMT -5
Hoya Saxa! Wonder how many kids saw that haha...come to Gtown now!!! ... Amazing to be repping our team... vine.co/v/MhqHVIFJxbTI thought that might have been u glide..the thought just flashed into my head during the documentary.. You are definitely becoming the most recognized #1 Hoya fan with all the t.v. time you have been getting this season...keep it up thanks man but yeah ESPN and CBS has been catching me on the regular for some time now from what I'm told ...lol
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Post by glidehoyas (Inactive) on Mar 17, 2014 21:32:41 GMT -5
Hoya Saxa! Wonder how many kids saw that haha...come to Gtown now!!! ... Amazing to be repping our team... vine.co/v/MhqHVIFJxbTI thought that was you. Congrats. thx man...
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Post by HoyasAreHungry on Mar 17, 2014 21:37:30 GMT -5
Just finished watching it. Got chills through it all. Really made me itchy to win another (multiple??) national championship(s) though.
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sead43
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Post by sead43 on Mar 17, 2014 22:25:29 GMT -5
Looks like this program will be repeated on ESPNU at 2:00 AM tomorrow (tonight). Actually looks like that might be the Jimmy V 30 for 30, but it looks like the Big East one will be on again on 3/19 at 8 AM on ESPNU and on 3/22 at 9 AM on ESPN2 for those who still need to set their DVRs (or who, like me, missed the last half hour b/c last night's ESPN2 replay was delayed). It also says on the 30 for 30 website that all films are available on WatchESPN but I can't find them there so I suspect that isn't accurate...
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Post by professorhoya on Mar 17, 2014 22:41:29 GMT -5
Man, you are everywhere! Did you know you were going to be on the 30/30 documentary?
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mrsixer123
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Post by mrsixer123 on Mar 17, 2014 23:13:57 GMT -5
well done, but hard to watch the life and death of something you once loved. if the conf added penn st way back would the conf have imploded like it did?
seeing the towers several times also gave me a hard to describe feeling. this documentary is an emotion roller coaster.
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HoyaFanNY
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Post by HoyaFanNY on Mar 18, 2014 4:51:00 GMT -5
great show but way too much dwayne washington. they made it sound like this guy was as responsible for the success of the league than ewing was. they had small bits mentioning mullin and pinkney but that lard a$$ dwayne takes up half the show. the guy never won anything at syracuse. the only thing he is known for is the half court shot against bc and for being a monumental failure in the pros....and never being able to beat the hoyas when it mattered most. his gloating over the sucker punch to patrick in the BET made me hate him as much as i did watching it live as a 13 year old. he is the perfect poster child for su(ck) hoops...
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hoyainspirit
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Post by hoyainspirit on Mar 18, 2014 7:52:34 GMT -5
I thought Pearl was fun to watch, even if he did play for SUcks.
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